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Peter Charles wrote in message
[snip]

In June we had NE winds blowing that took out a couple of days as
well. There's already a striper two-hander on the market -- Greg and
I both have one -- a CND Atlantis. It's an 11' 11 wt. that'll handle
11/12 wt. lines. It's interesting to cast as it'll put out enough
line that head length becomes critical to ensuring that the cast rolls
out properly. Otherwise, around 100' or so, the cast can "crash".

The Daiwa 10 wt. I was using was original designed as an overhead rod
but it's superb on the spey as well. Daiwa makes a 12'6" 8 wt. that
would be great in the surf. That's a spey 8 wt. rating so figure on
regular 10 wt. lines to load it. I've overhead cast 120' in the yard
using Greg's 8 wt.

Peter

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I know there are probably entire web sites devoted to this, but do you
know if the CND Atlantis is used with a shooting head (I'm guessing
yes from the above)?
Or a WF?

I saw a video demo of some 2 handed 11wt rod with which the caster
seemed to use a stroke more like spin fishing, swinging the head
slowly behind him and then an overhand stroke that delivered about
150' of line out consistently.

This is "on my list" for next year.

-- Rob

On 1 Nov 2004 09:38:55 -0800, (Rob S.) wrote:

Peter Charles wrote in message
[snip]

In June we had NE winds blowing that took out a couple of days as
well. There's already a striper two-hander on the market -- Greg and
I both have one -- a CND Atlantis. It's an 11' 11 wt. that'll handle
11/12 wt. lines. It's interesting to cast as it'll put out enough
line that head length becomes critical to ensuring that the cast rolls
out properly. Otherwise, around 100' or so, the cast can "crash".

The Daiwa 10 wt. I was using was original designed as an overhead rod
but it's superb on the spey as well. Daiwa makes a 12'6" 8 wt. that
would be great in the surf. That's a spey 8 wt. rating so figure on
regular 10 wt. lines to load it. I've overhead cast 120' in the yard
using Greg's 8 wt.

Peter

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I know there are probably entire web sites devoted to this, but do you
know if the CND Atlantis is used with a shooting head (I'm guessing
yes from the above)?
Or a WF?

I saw a video demo of some 2 handed 11wt rod with which the caster
seemed to use a stroke more like spin fishing, swinging the head
slowly behind him and then an overhand stroke that delivered about
150' of line out consistently.

This is "on my list" for next year.

-- Rob

Yes and yes. I used the Atlantis with an Airflo WF-I-12 striper line
while Greg used a shooting head rig. I've since bought a complete set
of Airflo 45' - 12 wt. heads for it.

That casting stroke you saw is called a Belgian cast or an oval cast.
If you're flogging a heavy head, a standard backcast can cause some
nasty bouncing, killing the forward load. That slow swing maintains a
nice, constant load on the rod, keeping everything nice and smooth.

Go here http://www.flyfishingforum.com/flytalk/index.htm and then to
Sal****er Flyfishing to read up on Atlantis usage. The guy by the
name of Juro on this site, is the NorAm rep. for CND and he designed
the Atlantis rod. Aparently they've now produced a 9 wt. version.
Their website is www.cndspey.com.

BTW, the 150' isn't bull****.

Peter

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On 1 Nov 2004 09:38:55 -0800, (Rob S.) wrote:

Peter Charles wrote in message
[snip]

In June we had NE winds blowing that took out a couple of days as
well. There's already a striper two-hander on the market -- Greg and
I both have one -- a CND Atlantis. It's an 11' 11 wt. that'll handle
11/12 wt. lines. It's interesting to cast as it'll put out enough
line that head length becomes critical to ensuring that the cast rolls
out properly. Otherwise, around 100' or so, the cast can "crash".

The Daiwa 10 wt. I was using was original designed as an overhead rod
but it's superb on the spey as well. Daiwa makes a 12'6" 8 wt. that
would be great in the surf. That's a spey 8 wt. rating so figure on
regular 10 wt. lines to load it. I've overhead cast 120' in the yard
using Greg's 8 wt.

Peter

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I know there are probably entire web sites devoted to this, but do you
know if the CND Atlantis is used with a shooting head (I'm guessing
yes from the above)?
Or a WF?

I saw a video demo of some 2 handed 11wt rod with which the caster
seemed to use a stroke more like spin fishing, swinging the head
slowly behind him and then an overhand stroke that delivered about
150' of line out consistently.

This is "on my list" for next year.

-- Rob

Yes and yes. I used the Atlantis with an Airflo WF-I-12 striper line
while Greg used a shooting head rig. I've since bought a complete set
of Airflo 45' - 12 wt. heads for it.

That casting stroke you saw is called a Belgian cast or an oval cast.
If you're flogging a heavy head, a standard backcast can cause some
nasty bouncing, killing the forward load. That slow swing maintains a
nice, constant load on the rod, keeping everything nice and smooth.

Go here http://www.flyfishingforum.com/flytalk/index.htm and then to
Sal****er Flyfishing to read up on Atlantis usage. The guy by the
name of Juro on this site, is the NorAm rep. for CND and he designed
the Atlantis rod. Aparently they've now produced a 9 wt. version.
Their website is www.cndspey.com.

BTW, the 150' isn't bull****.

Peter

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Peter Charles wrote in message . ..
On 1 Nov 2004 09:38:55 -0800, (Rob S.) wrote:

Peter Charles wrote in message
[snip]


I saw a video demo of some 2 handed 11wt rod with which the caster
seemed to use a stroke more like spin fishing, swinging the head
slowly behind him and then an overhand stroke that delivered about
150' of line out consistently.

This is "on my list" for next year.

-- Rob

Yes and yes. I used the Atlantis with an Airflo WF-I-12 striper line
while Greg used a shooting head rig. I've since bought a complete set
of Airflo 45' - 12 wt. heads for it.

That casting stroke you saw is called a Belgian cast or an oval cast.
If you're flogging a heavy head, a standard backcast can cause some
nasty bouncing, killing the forward load. That slow swing maintains a
nice, constant load on the rod, keeping everything nice and smooth.

Go here http://www.flyfishingforum.com/flytalk/index.htm and then to
Sal****er Flyfishing to read up on Atlantis usage. The guy by the
name of Juro on this site, is the NorAm rep. for CND and he designed
the Atlantis rod. Aparently they've now produced a 9 wt. version.
Their website is www.cndspey.com.

BTW, the 150' isn't bull****.

Peter

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thanks Peter! will definitely be checking this out. The winds this
year were really wicked with the single handed 9 and 10 wts I have and
I was looking for something with a little more punch to use more
consistently.

thanks again,
Rob

Peter Charles wrote in message . ..
On 1 Nov 2004 09:38:55 -0800, (Rob S.) wrote:

Peter Charles wrote in message
[snip]


I saw a video demo of some 2 handed 11wt rod with which the caster
seemed to use a stroke more like spin fishing, swinging the head
slowly behind him and then an overhand stroke that delivered about
150' of line out consistently.

This is "on my list" for next year.

-- Rob

Yes and yes. I used the Atlantis with an Airflo WF-I-12 striper line
while Greg used a shooting head rig. I've since bought a complete set
of Airflo 45' - 12 wt. heads for it.

That casting stroke you saw is called a Belgian cast or an oval cast.
If you're flogging a heavy head, a standard backcast can cause some
nasty bouncing, killing the forward load. That slow swing maintains a
nice, constant load on the rod, keeping everything nice and smooth.

Go here http://www.flyfishingforum.com/flytalk/index.htm and then to
Sal****er Flyfishing to read up on Atlantis usage. The guy by the
name of Juro on this site, is the NorAm rep. for CND and he designed
the Atlantis rod. Aparently they've now produced a 9 wt. version.
Their website is www.cndspey.com.

BTW, the 150' isn't bull****.

Peter

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thanks Peter! will definitely be checking this out. The winds this
year were really wicked with the single handed 9 and 10 wts I have and
I was looking for something with a little more punch to use more
consistently.

thanks again,
Rob

Peter Charles wrote in message . ..
On 1 Nov 2004 09:38:55 -0800, (Rob S.) wrote:

Peter Charles wrote in message
[snip]


I saw a video demo of some 2 handed 11wt rod with which the caster
seemed to use a stroke more like spin fishing, swinging the head
slowly behind him and then an overhand stroke that delivered about
150' of line out consistently.

This is "on my list" for next year.

-- Rob

Yes and yes. I used the Atlantis with an Airflo WF-I-12 striper line
while Greg used a shooting head rig. I've since bought a complete set
of Airflo 45' - 12 wt. heads for it.

That casting stroke you saw is called a Belgian cast or an oval cast.
If you're flogging a heavy head, a standard backcast can cause some
nasty bouncing, killing the forward load. That slow swing maintains a
nice, constant load on the rod, keeping everything nice and smooth.

Go here http://www.flyfishingforum.com/flytalk/index.htm and then to
Sal****er Flyfishing to read up on Atlantis usage. The guy by the
name of Juro on this site, is the NorAm rep. for CND and he designed
the Atlantis rod. Aparently they've now produced a 9 wt. version.
Their website is www.cndspey.com.

BTW, the 150' isn't bull****.

Peter

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thanks Peter! will definitely be checking this out. The winds this
year were really wicked with the single handed 9 and 10 wts I have and
I was looking for something with a little more punch to use more
consistently.

thanks again,
Rob

On 2 Nov 2004 09:25:28 -0800, (Rob S.) wrote:



thanks Peter! will definitely be checking this out. The winds this
year were really wicked with the single handed 9 and 10 wts I have and
I was looking for something with a little more punch to use more
consistently.

thanks again,
Rob


The beauty of two handers, when the wind blows at your casting side,
switch sides. Last june I could manage up to 100' on the right
shoulder and about 80' on the left.

Peter

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On 2 Nov 2004 09:25:28 -0800, (Rob S.) wrote:



thanks Peter! will definitely be checking this out. The winds this
year were really wicked with the single handed 9 and 10 wts I have and
I was looking for something with a little more punch to use more
consistently.

thanks again,
Rob


The beauty of two handers, when the wind blows at your casting side,
switch sides. Last june I could manage up to 100' on the right
shoulder and about 80' on the left.

Peter

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On 2 Nov 2004 09:25:28 -0800, (Rob S.) wrote:



thanks Peter! will definitely be checking this out. The winds this
year were really wicked with the single handed 9 and 10 wts I have and
I was looking for something with a little more punch to use more
consistently.

thanks again,
Rob


The beauty of two handers, when the wind blows at your casting side,
switch sides. Last june I could manage up to 100' on the right
shoulder and about 80' on the left.

Peter

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Last june I could manage up to 100' on the right
shoulder and about 80' on the left.

Peter

hmmm, last week into a blistering NW wind on the river side, I was able to
manage about 25' right handed and about 15' on the left *LOL*.

.... still managed to hook a bluefish, the toothy buggers

-- Rob (but I'll TAKE that extra 55' any day)
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