I need some trip advice (on-topic)

ok...the yellowstone gambit didn't work...so... penns, yeah penns,
that's the ticket. beautiful country, willing amish women, lobstah,
cheap thrills... of course, there is usually a "runoff" of a different
kind at penns too. g but graham county....no siree, wouldn't go
there...nope... june is grabberbitereater season, not to mention
stickyrhodos... g let us know if you're coming this way.

jeff

Conan the Librarian wrote:


Thanks for the advice, all. I knew I could count on youse guys.

With Yellowstone out of the question due to runoff conditions, I was
leaning towards Graham County, as I've always liked NC. But it is gonna
be hard to pass up an invite from you bookish sorts who'll be at Penn's.
So, what's the scenery like up there?

Er ... uh ... let me rephrase that: In addition to the ROFFian
contingent, what should I expect in the way of wild animals and natural
wonders?


Chuck Vance (who thinks he might still have the question backwards)

Jeff Miller wrote:

ok...the yellowstone gambit didn't work...so... penns, yeah penns,
that's the ticket. beautiful country, willing amish women, lobstah,
^^^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^
Is that a threat?

cheap thrills... of course, there is usually a "runoff" of a different
kind at penns too. g but graham county....no siree, wouldn't go
there...nope... june is grabberbitereater season, not to mention
stickyrhodos... g let us know if you're coming this way.

I will. I've been checking out the lodging situation, and I seem to
recall that you rented (or owned?) a cabin right on the Snowbird. Any
recommendations for lodging for a solitary ROFFian who doesn't want to
rough it at night, but would like to be close to the water?


Chuck Vance

chuck - here's a page with accommodations listed. we usually rent a
comfortable 2 bedroom/2bathroom house on snowbird, about a 1/4 mile from
the turn to the big snowbird backcountry... it sits on the stream, and
some zoo trout can be caught in the stretch just behind the place. it's
about 670 week with taxes. motels in robbinsville (not scenic, but
comfortable) are around 50 a night. campsites are pretty good in the
area. swan cabin is in a remote area above big santeetlah creek,
primitive cabin, but only 25 a night.

http://www.grahamchamber.com/accommadations.html
http://www.main.nc.us/graham/hiking/...20Swan%20Cabin

let me know if you need additional info

jeff

Conan the Librarian wrote:

Jeff Miller wrote:

ok...the yellowstone gambit didn't work...so... penns, yeah penns,
that's the ticket. beautiful country, willing amish women, lobstah,

^^^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^
Is that a threat?

cheap thrills... of course, there is usually a "runoff" of a different
kind at penns too. g but graham county....no siree, wouldn't go
there...nope... june is grabberbitereater season, not to mention
stickyrhodos... g let us know if you're coming this way.


I will. I've been checking out the lodging situation, and I seem to
recall that you rented (or owned?) a cabin right on the Snowbird. Any
recommendations for lodging for a solitary ROFFian who doesn't want to
rough it at night, but would like to be close to the water?


Chuck Vance

On 12/1/04 8:11 AM, in article , "Conan the
Librarian" wrote:


Thanks for the advice, all. I knew I could count on youse guys.

With Yellowstone out of the question due to runoff conditions, I was
leaning towards Graham County, as I've always liked NC. But it is gonna
be hard to pass up an invite from you bookish sorts who'll be at Penn's.
So, what's the scenery like up there?

Er ... uh ... let me rephrase that: In addition to the ROFFian
contingent, what should I expect in the way of wild animals and natural
wonders?

If you've got a cooler full of venison in your tent, I'm thinking you might
see some wild animals... from the tent next to yours. Might see a bear too.

Penns country is quite beautiful, and very unlike the west. Green. Rolling
hills. If you go for the "quaint" thing, there's nothing like seeing the
Amish at work in the fields in the valleys. The geology there is really
interesting- bands of "mountains" running sort of south west to north east
with flat valleys in between. The approach to Millheim from the north is
really a gorgeous drive through a gap. Same when driving from
Millheim/Coburn to Big Fishing Creek. And the drive into Ingleby is
downright hair raising- let someone with a truck take you in there.

We've heard turkey in camp, plus a nice assortment of raptors and eastern
songbirds. Kingfisher. Mink. Above mentioned black bear.

The fishing is tough but rewarding when you finally get a few.

That all said, this bookish lad may or may not be at Penns '05. There are a
couple other fishing possibilities in that same calendar neighborhood, so
I'm gonna have to pick and chose.

Bill

Er ... uh ... let me rephrase that: In addition to the ROFFian
contingent, what should I expect in the way of wild animals and natural
wonders?

(sung to the tune of "My Favorite Things")
Hailstones on hemlocks and
Bears in your kitchen
Bright blooming nettles and
Wayno is bitchen
Brown paper packages
Filled with Yuenling
These are a few of
The Penns Clavorite things

Coffee colored runoff and
LaCourse in his skivvies
Green drakes and sulphurs
As you crawl from you bivvy
Wild browns that pull
Making your Plueger just sing
These are a few of
The Penns Clavorite things

Girls in brown dresses
Asadi makes passes
Mustads that hook
My nose and eyelashes
Gold and red brookies
That jump from the Springs
These are a few of
The Penns Clavorite things

When the Reid Reids
When the tent floats
When the scotch is sad
I simply remember
My Penns Clavorite things
And then I don't feel so bad.


--
Frank Reid
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On 12/1/04 8:11 AM, in article , "Conan the
Librarian" wrote:


Thanks for the advice, all. I knew I could count on youse guys.

With Yellowstone out of the question due to runoff conditions, I was
leaning towards Graham County, as I've always liked NC. But it is gonna
be hard to pass up an invite from you bookish sorts who'll be at Penn's.
So, what's the scenery like up there?

Er ... uh ... let me rephrase that: In addition to the ROFFian
contingent, what should I expect in the way of wild animals and natural
wonders?

If you've got a cooler full of venison in your tent, I'm thinking you might
see some wild animals... from the tent next to yours. Might see a bear too.

Penns country is quite beautiful, and very unlike the west. Green. Rolling
hills. If you go for the "quaint" thing, there's nothing like seeing the
Amish at work in the fields in the valleys. The geology there is really
interesting- bands of "mountains" running sort of south west to north east
with flat valleys in between. The approach to Millheim from the north is
really a gorgeous drive through a gap. Same when driving from
Millheim/Coburn to Big Fishing Creek. And the drive into Ingleby is
downright hair raising- let someone with a truck take you in there.

We've heard turkey in camp, plus a nice assortment of raptors and eastern
songbirds. Kingfisher. Mink. Above mentioned black bear.

The fishing is tough but rewarding when you finally get a few.

That all said, this bookish lad may or may not be at Penns '05. There are a
couple other fishing possibilities in that same calendar neighborhood, so
I'm gonna have to pick and chose.

Bill

all things equal...and they aren't...i say yellowstone. it's a no
brainer for me. i love snowbird, but given the choice, for a fishing
trip i'd choose yellowstone every time. if however, you come this way,
let us know and we'll make sure you sample a number of the better spots
the smokies offer.

jeff

Conan the Librarian wrote:
Howdy,

It looks like SWMBO will be taking the SWMBO'ettes on a high-school
and college graduation trip in early June. The exact dates are not set,
but it looks like I'll have a week to myself to head out on a
fly-fishing excursion.

I've been thinking of either returning to the Yellowstone area to
spend some more time getting to know the smaller rivers/streams around
there. I'm also considering North Carolina, possibly the Snowbird Creek
area. I am giving some consideration to the Yosemite area around
Tuolumne (sp?) Meadows, just because I was struck by its beauty when
SWMBO and I drove through there a couple of years ago (but I've yet to
find a lot of info on what to expect in the way of fishing there).

I'm more interested in scenery/beauty than monster trout, but I'd
like to at least give myself a chance to catch a few decent fish in the
process. I also want areas where I can hike and wade rather than
needing a boat to get to decent water. And if possible, I'd like to
fish mostly dries.

So, given those conditions, what would be your choice for an early
June ff'ing destination in the U.S.?


Chuck Vance

Conan the Librarian wrote:

So, given those conditions, what would be your choice for an early
June ff'ing destination in the U.S.?


Chuck Vance


Not the best time for the Rockies. Most years everything except
tailwaters and spring creeks will be running high and muddy. If you're
set on that time frame, I'd recommend someplace other than the Rockies.

Willi

Conan the Librarian wrote:
Howdy,

It looks like SWMBO will be taking the SWMBO'ettes on a high-school
and college graduation trip in early June. ...

That's usually still runoff season out west. If it's between
Yellowstone and Graham County, North Carolina choose the latter.

--
Ken Fortenberry