Crank Baits Suggestion

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I carry all my cranks with me at all times. One of my favorite tricks is
to
throw a long-billed crank in much shallower water than it was intended to
be
used in. Really stirs things up down there if the grass isn't too thick,
deadly where sand & rocks mix.


I agree Warren. It's worth a few snag ups here and there to bang a crankbait
off something in the water (the bottom, rocks, branches). I dunno if it
because most casual anglers just swim their baits or what, but usually I get
bit more when the bait is "swimming" into stuff.

My personal best big bass was caught in less than 2ft of water this way. I
overthrew a rat-l-trap onto a bank (cold air, cold water, fish "should've"
been deep) but some warm water runoff had the water in this particular cove
stained up. Yanked it enough to get it cleanly airborne off the bank, it
skipped off a branch sticking up out of the water about 3 feet into the
waterline, and landed right beside it, on my, the boat side of the branch. I
let it sink and sit for about 5 seconds, and within two pulls (I was
yo-yo'ing lipless cranks that day) the fish and the fight were both on.
Everyone else on the water that day were fishing jigs on deeper drop offs,
and ledges, presumably where the thermocline was. We boated that 10 lb'er
that day, and a couple that were in the 3 lb range as well and the most
other fish we saw caught were some little bitty buck bass, "maybe" keepers,
but well under that lake's slot limit (16"-20"). So even on a cold day, at
the end of February, stirring things up a little can help apparently. As
well as thinking outside the box and not thinking the rules for certain
weather conditions are set into stone. These critters are smart, and know
all the rules by now too I reckon, so I break the rules a lot just to see if
I can trick another big'un into the bought on occasion.

Good strategies Sim, nice job! I yoyo the lipless cranks in cold water
myself, if that doesn't work I burn em as fast as I can reel. Good stuff...

WW

"SimRacer" wrote in message
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"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I carry all my cranks with me at all times. One of my favorite tricks
is
to
throw a long-billed crank in much shallower water than it was intended
to
be
used in. Really stirs things up down there if the grass isn't too
thick,
deadly where sand & rocks mix.


I agree Warren. It's worth a few snag ups here and there to bang a
crankbait
off something in the water (the bottom, rocks, branches). I dunno if it
because most casual anglers just swim their baits or what, but usually I
get
bit more when the bait is "swimming" into stuff.

My personal best big bass was caught in less than 2ft of water this way. I
overthrew a rat-l-trap onto a bank (cold air, cold water, fish "should've"
been deep) but some warm water runoff had the water in this particular
cove
stained up. Yanked it enough to get it cleanly airborne off the bank, it
skipped off a branch sticking up out of the water about 3 feet into the
waterline, and landed right beside it, on my, the boat side of the branch.
I
let it sink and sit for about 5 seconds, and within two pulls (I was
yo-yo'ing lipless cranks that day) the fish and the fight were both on.
Everyone else on the water that day were fishing jigs on deeper drop offs,
and ledges, presumably where the thermocline was. We boated that 10 lb'er
that day, and a couple that were in the 3 lb range as well and the most
other fish we saw caught were some little bitty buck bass, "maybe"
keepers,
but well under that lake's slot limit (16"-20"). So even on a cold day, at
the end of February, stirring things up a little can help apparently. As
well as thinking outside the box and not thinking the rules for certain
weather conditions are set into stone. These critters are smart, and know
all the rules by now too I reckon, so I break the rules a lot just to see
if
I can trick another big'un into the bought on occasion.

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Good strategies Sim, nice job! I yoyo the lipless cranks in cold water
myself, if that doesn't work I burn em as fast as I can reel. Good
stuff...

That's my modus operandi Warren. And if those two fail, I get out a
spinnerbait. How crazy is that? Crazy, I know, but it works. I start out
slow rolling it and speed it up if nothing happens. Last thing I try then,
if all else fails, is using a spinnerbait like a jig. I've caught some
unsuspecting bucket mouths that way too. Especially in stained water where
the falling blades give it a little more "visual" if I have a darker skirt
on it, I guess. I still struggle with enticing fish with regular jigs, so I
am backing into it by using something I know *ok* enough to emulate one.
Last month, after the water started to cool a little, I even caught a fish
using a spinnerbait with the skirt removed, with small gold colorado type
blades, and a 4" red/flake senko on the hook as a trailor. Just bouncing it
down a riprap-ledge like a regular jig. My fishing buddy thought I was nuts
for even trying it until I hooked and boated a solid 3# fish with it. (We
only caught 3 fish all day...) I figured those poor fish see SO many c-rigs
in their lifes on that riprap, that something different might get me an
extra bite or two, and it did. Granted, our other 2 fish were caught on
c-rigged lizards that day, so it ain't all bad advice I guess.

WW

"SimRacer" wrote in message
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"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I carry all my cranks with me at all times. One of my favorite tricks
is
to
throw a long-billed crank in much shallower water than it was intended
to
be
used in. Really stirs things up down there if the grass isn't too
thick,
deadly where sand & rocks mix.


I agree Warren. It's worth a few snag ups here and there to bang a
crankbait
off something in the water (the bottom, rocks, branches). I dunno if it
because most casual anglers just swim their baits or what, but usually I
get
bit more when the bait is "swimming" into stuff.

My personal best big bass was caught in less than 2ft of water this way.
I
overthrew a rat-l-trap onto a bank (cold air, cold water, fish
"should've"
been deep) but some warm water runoff had the water in this particular
cove
stained up. Yanked it enough to get it cleanly airborne off the bank, it
skipped off a branch sticking up out of the water about 3 feet into the
waterline, and landed right beside it, on my, the boat side of the
branch.
I
let it sink and sit for about 5 seconds, and within two pulls (I was
yo-yo'ing lipless cranks that day) the fish and the fight were both on.
Everyone else on the water that day were fishing jigs on deeper drop
offs,
and ledges, presumably where the thermocline was. We boated that 10
lb'er
that day, and a couple that were in the 3 lb range as well and the most
other fish we saw caught were some little bitty buck bass, "maybe"
keepers,
but well under that lake's slot limit (16"-20"). So even on a cold day,
at
the end of February, stirring things up a little can help apparently. As
well as thinking outside the box and not thinking the rules for certain
weather conditions are set into stone. These critters are smart, and
know
all the rules by now too I reckon, so I break the rules a lot just to
see
if
I can trick another big'un into the bought on occasion.

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Good strategies Sim, nice job! I yoyo the lipless cranks in cold water
myself, if that doesn't work I burn em as fast as I can reel. Good
stuff...

That's my modus operandi Warren. And if those two fail, I get out a
spinnerbait. How crazy is that? Crazy, I know, but it works. I start out
slow rolling it and speed it up if nothing happens. Last thing I try then,
if all else fails, is using a spinnerbait like a jig. I've caught some
unsuspecting bucket mouths that way too. Especially in stained water where
the falling blades give it a little more "visual" if I have a darker skirt
on it, I guess. I still struggle with enticing fish with regular jigs, so I
am backing into it by using something I know *ok* enough to emulate one.
Last month, after the water started to cool a little, I even caught a fish
using a spinnerbait with the skirt removed, with small gold colorado type
blades, and a 4" red/flake senko on the hook as a trailor. Just bouncing it
down a riprap-ledge like a regular jig. My fishing buddy thought I was nuts
for even trying it until I hooked and boated a solid 3# fish with it. (We
only caught 3 fish all day...) I figured those poor fish see SO many c-rigs
in their lifes on that riprap, that something different might get me an
extra bite or two, and it did. Granted, our other 2 fish were caught on
c-rigged lizards that day, so it ain't all bad advice I guess.

WW

"SimRacer" wrote in message
. ..

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I carry all my cranks with me at all times. One of my favorite tricks
is
to
throw a long-billed crank in much shallower water than it was intended
to
be
used in. Really stirs things up down there if the grass isn't too
thick,
deadly where sand & rocks mix.


I agree Warren. It's worth a few snag ups here and there to bang a
crankbait
off something in the water (the bottom, rocks, branches). I dunno if it
because most casual anglers just swim their baits or what, but usually I
get
bit more when the bait is "swimming" into stuff.

My personal best big bass was caught in less than 2ft of water this way.
I
overthrew a rat-l-trap onto a bank (cold air, cold water, fish
"should've"
been deep) but some warm water runoff had the water in this particular
cove
stained up. Yanked it enough to get it cleanly airborne off the bank, it
skipped off a branch sticking up out of the water about 3 feet into the
waterline, and landed right beside it, on my, the boat side of the
branch.
I
let it sink and sit for about 5 seconds, and within two pulls (I was
yo-yo'ing lipless cranks that day) the fish and the fight were both on.
Everyone else on the water that day were fishing jigs on deeper drop
offs,
and ledges, presumably where the thermocline was. We boated that 10
lb'er
that day, and a couple that were in the 3 lb range as well and the most
other fish we saw caught were some little bitty buck bass, "maybe"
keepers,
but well under that lake's slot limit (16"-20"). So even on a cold day,
at
the end of February, stirring things up a little can help apparently. As
well as thinking outside the box and not thinking the rules for certain
weather conditions are set into stone. These critters are smart, and
know
all the rules by now too I reckon, so I break the rules a lot just to
see
if
I can trick another big'un into the bought on occasion.

I carry all my cranks with me at all times.

You got more room in that boat of yours!

I will toss in a few baits from my other boxes "just in case", but I seldom
stray from what I normally do.

One of my favorite tricks is to
throw a long-billed crank in much shallower water than it was intended to be
used in.

You know, I've read about this and have wanted to try it, but I have yet to do
it. Kinda like a lot of other fishing stuff. Lots of plans, but yet to try.

Brad Coovert
Tournament Director, Greenfield Bassmasters
http://www.greenfieldbassmasters.com
Esox Rods - Hand Made In The USA
"For The Toughest Fishing Around"

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I carry all my cranks with me at all times. One of my favorite tricks is
to
throw a long-billed crank in much shallower water than it was intended to
be
used in. Really stirs things up down there if the grass isn't too thick,
deadly where sand & rocks mix.


I agree Warren. It's worth a few snag ups here and there to bang a crankbait
off something in the water (the bottom, rocks, branches). I dunno if it
because most casual anglers just swim their baits or what, but usually I get
bit more when the bait is "swimming" into stuff.

My personal best big bass was caught in less than 2ft of water this way. I
overthrew a rat-l-trap onto a bank (cold air, cold water, fish "should've"
been deep) but some warm water runoff had the water in this particular cove
stained up. Yanked it enough to get it cleanly airborne off the bank, it
skipped off a branch sticking up out of the water about 3 feet into the
waterline, and landed right beside it, on my, the boat side of the branch. I
let it sink and sit for about 5 seconds, and within two pulls (I was
yo-yo'ing lipless cranks that day) the fish and the fight were both on.
Everyone else on the water that day were fishing jigs on deeper drop offs,
and ledges, presumably where the thermocline was. We boated that 10 lb'er
that day, and a couple that were in the 3 lb range as well and the most
other fish we saw caught were some little bitty buck bass, "maybe" keepers,
but well under that lake's slot limit (16"-20"). So even on a cold day, at
the end of February, stirring things up a little can help apparently. As
well as thinking outside the box and not thinking the rules for certain
weather conditions are set into stone. These critters are smart, and know
all the rules by now too I reckon, so I break the rules a lot just to see if
I can trick another big'un into the bought on occasion.

I carry all my cranks with me at all times.

You got more room in that boat of yours!

I will toss in a few baits from my other boxes "just in case", but I seldom
stray from what I normally do.

One of my favorite tricks is to
throw a long-billed crank in much shallower water than it was intended to be
used in.

You know, I've read about this and have wanted to try it, but I have yet to do
it. Kinda like a lot of other fishing stuff. Lots of plans, but yet to try.

Brad Coovert
Tournament Director, Greenfield Bassmasters
http://www.greenfieldbassmasters.com
Esox Rods - Hand Made In The USA
"For The Toughest Fishing Around"

I carry all my cranks with me at all times. One of my favorite tricks is to
throw a long-billed crank in much shallower water than it was intended to be
used in. Really stirs things up down there if the grass isn't too thick,
deadly where sand & rocks mix.

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Brad Coovert" wrote in message
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I fish different baits based on water temp, lake I will be at, season, etc.
and only take those baits with me. I use four 3700 Plano's to keep my
cranks
in:

1) Lipless baits
2) Suspending baits
3) Flat sided baits - Tight wobble
4) Round sided baits - Wide wobble

Seldom do I have three boxes with me at any time.

I then arrange the boxes by depth in four rows with super shallow,
shallow,
medium and deep.

As for colors, I have four color categories: craw, chartreuse, chromes and
shads.

I also like to have rattling baits (usually plastic) and non - rattling
baits
(usually wood).


Brad Coovert
Tournament Director, Greenfield Bassmasters
http://www.greenfieldbassmasters.com
Esox Rods - Hand Made In The USA
"For The Toughest Fishing Around"

Just send them to me.... I'll sort them out and send you back the ones that
I don't need... I mean, the ones that will work best for you.


"Joshuall" wrote in message
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I like fishing crank baits and I guess I know the "basics", but I have a
ton
of them. In one big box. Some of them may have procreated and made more of
them. My box full is jammed to the top. I've got em all mixed up. I've
tried
sorting them. . . by color, by the size of the bill etc. But I still have
a
mess.

Just wondering if the group has some suggestions to make my crank bait box
make more sense, assist me in culling out some lures. And just some
general
usage suggestions, favorite lures, times of seasons for colors etc. I know
wide wobble in cold water/weather and tighter in warm, but would lilke to
get a better handle on crankbaits. So anything the group has to offer to
help me make more sense out of my collection other than my current
philosophy which seems to be.. "have as many smushed in there as possible
in
case some how I get into a situation that requires a certain type and I
don't have it ! g.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear

Josh, don't know if you've seen the specialty utility boxes made by Falcon
or not, but they might be the answer to your crankbait dilemna. I started
using them this past season & they rock. I employ several to house my
cranks. These utility boxes are made for specific types of lures,
everything from cranks to jigs to spinnerbaits etc. I just use seperate
Falcon crankbait boxes for shallow/medium/deep runners, one for hard
jerkbaits & another for topwaters. These boxes make cranks very easy to
select & manage.

Search Cabelas for "Falcon Boxes", I'd post the link but it was rediculously
long...

http://www.cabelas.com

Warren

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Joshuall" wrote in message
...
I like fishing crank baits and I guess I know the "basics", but I have a
ton of them. In one big box. Some of them may have procreated and made more
of them. My box full is jammed to the top. I've got em all mixed up. I've
tried sorting them. . . by color, by the size of the bill etc. But I still
have a mess.

Just wondering if the group has some suggestions to make my crank bait box
make more sense, assist me in culling out some lures. And just some
general usage suggestions, favorite lures, times of seasons for colors
etc. I know wide wobble in cold water/weather and tighter in warm, but
would lilke to get a better handle on crankbaits. So anything the group
has to offer to help me make more sense out of my collection other than
my current philosophy which seems to be.. "have as many smushed in there
as possible in case some how I get into a situation that requires a
certain type and I don't have it ! g.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear