Rubber Isolators or no?

Ok, time for another round of "Charles's Idiot Questions", with your host...
Charles Summers!

Thank you contestants, you know the rules... the first person with the most
convincing argument wins!

First question, for $100... I went to the local BPS to pick up some of those
little rubber trolling motor bolts and a connector cable for the batteries.
After getting home and opening the box the new trolling motor was in, I
found a little bag of 6 long bolts, washers, and nuts, and after reading the
directions... they are for mounting the motor to the boat. But, the rubber
ones are for mounting too! So, which method should I go with? The rubber
isolators or the bolts with nuts?

Now... before you jump in here, there is a part two.

The rubber bolts keep the trolling motor from resting on the gelcoat
preventing damage. If I went with the bolts that were in the box, should I
use something with them to prevent the mount from damaging the gelcoat, or
is mounting the motor without a cushion ok?

insert calming music here

Charles,
Take those rubber pieces of garbage and throw them straight into the trash.
Useless would be a compliment.

Here's Pats two best way to mount a troll motor.
1. Absolute best way: **IF** you can get underneath to thru bolt it on, go
buy a rubber truck mud flap, cut it out the same size as your troll motor
mount. set your mount on the big rubber pad you just made, and use
stainless bolts, fiber lock nuts and the biggest dang washers you can, and
suck that mount down to the deck. It will never give you trouble.

2. Almost abolute best way. If you can NOT hold a wrench under the deck to
thru bolt, get some stainless "togglers" which can be had at your marine
dealer, use the same mudflap for a bracket pad, and those will never give
you trouble.

Those cheezy rubber isolators are just a disaster waiting to happen.


"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
...
Ok, time for another round of "Charles's Idiot Questions", with your
host...
Charles Summers!

Thank you contestants, you know the rules... the first person with the
most
convincing argument wins!

First question, for $100... I went to the local BPS to pick up some of
those
little rubber trolling motor bolts and a connector cable for the
batteries.
After getting home and opening the box the new trolling motor was in, I
found a little bag of 6 long bolts, washers, and nuts, and after reading
the
directions... they are for mounting the motor to the boat. But, the rubber
ones are for mounting too! So, which method should I go with? The rubber
isolators or the bolts with nuts?

Now... before you jump in here, there is a part two.

The rubber bolts keep the trolling motor from resting on the gelcoat
preventing damage. If I went with the bolts that were in the box, should I
use something with them to prevent the mount from damaging the gelcoat, or
is mounting the motor without a cushion ok?

insert calming music here

Instead of throwing them in the trash...I'm sure I can take the unopened
package back to BPS and exchange them in on a couple bags of my favorite...
Red Shad Powerworms, or should I do someone else a favor and trash them so
at least some someone else don't buy and use them?

I value your opinion, so I'll end the contest right here. I'll see what I
can do as far as reaching up underneath there and using the fiber washers.
Maybe my son can still squeeze into the rod locker? That'll be a hoot trying
to get him to actually hold the wrench where I want it, instead of him
disassembling the rest of my boat, but that's another story.

If I recall, you worked for Tracker at one time... so do you know off-hand
if reaching them from the rod locker is possible? This is the 700LX, and the
locker door pretty much extends to the front of the boat. The mount on this
one (Maxxum) appears to be longer than the old one, think I'll get all six
bolts to work? Maybe I'll run over to NTOWS to see if anyone has any
installation pics.

I'm sure I have some industrial type rubber (1/8" thick) around here
somewhere that we use to use as gasket material on our storage tank...

Thanks Pat!

"Pat Goff @yahoo.com" pmgoffjrbot wrote in message
...
Charles,
Take those rubber pieces of garbage and throw them straight into the
trash.
Useless would be a compliment.

Here's Pats two best way to mount a troll motor.
1. Absolute best way: **IF** you can get underneath to thru bolt it on, go
buy a rubber truck mud flap, cut it out the same size as your troll motor
mount. set your mount on the big rubber pad you just made, and use
stainless bolts, fiber lock nuts and the biggest dang washers you can, and
suck that mount down to the deck. It will never give you trouble.

2. Almost abolute best way. If you can NOT hold a wrench under the deck
to
thru bolt, get some stainless "togglers" which can be had at your marine
dealer, use the same mudflap for a bracket pad, and those will never give
you trouble.

Those cheezy rubber isolators are just a disaster waiting to happen.


"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
...
Ok, time for another round of "Charles's Idiot Questions", with your
host...
Charles Summers!

Thank you contestants, you know the rules... the first person with the
most
convincing argument wins!

First question, for $100... I went to the local BPS to pick up some of
those
little rubber trolling motor bolts and a connector cable for the
batteries.
After getting home and opening the box the new trolling motor was in, I
found a little bag of 6 long bolts, washers, and nuts, and after reading
the
directions... they are for mounting the motor to the boat. But, the
rubber
ones are for mounting too! So, which method should I go with? The rubber
isolators or the bolts with nuts?

Now... before you jump in here, there is a part two.

The rubber bolts keep the trolling motor from resting on the gelcoat
preventing damage. If I went with the bolts that were in the box, should
I
use something with them to prevent the mount from damaging the gelcoat,
or
is mounting the motor without a cushion ok?

insert calming music here

....on the NitroOwners site..in the grab-bag.....look for the "wrench
extender" to get up under the foredeck
offered Huck

The only thing I have to add is, when doing general boat maintenance,
lubing, repairing etc. Add checking the trolling motor bolts. As part
of my pre-water & post water inspection and wipe down, I always tug on
the trolling motor to see if any bolts have worked loose. I have been
to too many tournaments where guys lost trolling motors in rough water.
Probably because of those cheesey rubber bolt-things.

Outstanding suggestions Pat. I just happen to have a couple of truck mud
flaps in the garage, but I'm sure he'll want to install it way before we get
to Center Hill. Now I'm thinking about changing mine to the way you said.



"Pat Goff @yahoo.com" pmgoffjrbot wrote in message
...
Charles,
Take those rubber pieces of garbage and throw them straight into the
trash.
Useless would be a compliment.

Here's Pats two best way to mount a troll motor.
1. Absolute best way: **IF** you can get underneath to thru bolt it on, go
buy a rubber truck mud flap, cut it out the same size as your troll motor
mount. set your mount on the big rubber pad you just made, and use
stainless bolts, fiber lock nuts and the biggest dang washers you can, and
suck that mount down to the deck. It will never give you trouble.

2. Almost abolute best way. If you can NOT hold a wrench under the deck
to
thru bolt, get some stainless "togglers" which can be had at your marine
dealer, use the same mudflap for a bracket pad, and those will never give
you trouble.

Those cheezy rubber isolators are just a disaster waiting to happen.


"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
...
Ok, time for another round of "Charles's Idiot Questions", with your
host...
Charles Summers!

Thank you contestants, you know the rules... the first person with the
most
convincing argument wins!

First question, for $100... I went to the local BPS to pick up some of
those
little rubber trolling motor bolts and a connector cable for the
batteries.
After getting home and opening the box the new trolling motor was in, I
found a little bag of 6 long bolts, washers, and nuts, and after reading
the
directions... they are for mounting the motor to the boat. But, the
rubber
ones are for mounting too! So, which method should I go with? The rubber
isolators or the bolts with nuts?

Now... before you jump in here, there is a part two.

The rubber bolts keep the trolling motor from resting on the gelcoat
preventing damage. If I went with the bolts that were in the box, should
I
use something with them to prevent the mount from damaging the gelcoat,
or
is mounting the motor without a cushion ok?

insert calming music here

Charles,

I have several truck mud flaps in the garage, too. Let me know if you want
them. When I see them lying by the road, I pull over and toss them in the
truck. They've come in real handy for a number of projects over time, so I
keep a couple on hand.

Joe
_________
"Jerry Barton (NervisRek)" wrote in message
...
Outstanding suggestions Pat. I just happen to have a couple of truck mud
flaps in the garage, but I'm sure he'll want to install it way before we get
to Center Hill. Now I'm thinking about changing mine to the way you said.



"Pat Goff @yahoo.com" pmgoffjrbot wrote in message
...
Charles,
Take those rubber pieces of garbage and throw them straight into the
trash.
Useless would be a compliment.

Here's Pats two best way to mount a troll motor.
1. Absolute best way: **IF** you can get underneath to thru bolt it on, go
buy a rubber truck mud flap, cut it out the same size as your troll motor
mount. set your mount on the big rubber pad you just made, and use
stainless bolts, fiber lock nuts and the biggest dang washers you can, and
suck that mount down to the deck. It will never give you trouble.

2. Almost abolute best way. If you can NOT hold a wrench under the deck
to
thru bolt, get some stainless "togglers" which can be had at your marine
dealer, use the same mudflap for a bracket pad, and those will never give
you trouble.

Those cheezy rubber isolators are just a disaster waiting to happen.


"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
...
Ok, time for another round of "Charles's Idiot Questions", with your
host...
Charles Summers!

Thank you contestants, you know the rules... the first person with the
most
convincing argument wins!

First question, for $100... I went to the local BPS to pick up some of
those
little rubber trolling motor bolts and a connector cable for the
batteries.
After getting home and opening the box the new trolling motor was in, I
found a little bag of 6 long bolts, washers, and nuts, and after reading
the
directions... they are for mounting the motor to the boat. But, the
rubber
ones are for mounting too! So, which method should I go with? The rubber
isolators or the bolts with nuts?

Now... before you jump in here, there is a part two.

The rubber bolts keep the trolling motor from resting on the gelcoat
preventing damage. If I went with the bolts that were in the box, should
I
use something with them to prevent the mount from damaging the gelcoat,
or
is mounting the motor without a cushion ok?

insert calming music here

Wow! I pull over for any kind of old roadkill. I knew we were just alike,
Joe.


"Joe Haubenreich" rofbmail (at) secretweaponlures (dot) com wrote in
message ...
Charles,

I have several truck mud flaps in the garage, too. Let me know if you want
them. When I see them lying by the road, I pull over and toss them in the
truck. They've come in real handy for a number of projects over time, so I
keep a couple on hand.

Joe
_________
"Jerry Barton (NervisRek)" wrote in message
...
Outstanding suggestions Pat. I just happen to have a couple of truck mud
flaps in the garage, but I'm sure he'll want to install it way before we
get
to Center Hill. Now I'm thinking about changing mine to the way you said.



"Pat Goff @yahoo.com" pmgoffjrbot wrote in message
...
Charles,
Take those rubber pieces of garbage and throw them straight into the
trash.
Useless would be a compliment.

Here's Pats two best way to mount a troll motor.
1. Absolute best way: **IF** you can get underneath to thru bolt it on,
go
buy a rubber truck mud flap, cut it out the same size as your troll
motor
mount. set your mount on the big rubber pad you just made, and use
stainless bolts, fiber lock nuts and the biggest dang washers you can,
and
suck that mount down to the deck. It will never give you trouble.

2. Almost abolute best way. If you can NOT hold a wrench under the deck
to
thru bolt, get some stainless "togglers" which can be had at your marine
dealer, use the same mudflap for a bracket pad, and those will never
give
you trouble.

Those cheezy rubber isolators are just a disaster waiting to happen.


"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
...
Ok, time for another round of "Charles's Idiot Questions", with your
host...
Charles Summers!

Thank you contestants, you know the rules... the first person with the
most
convincing argument wins!

First question, for $100... I went to the local BPS to pick up some of
those
little rubber trolling motor bolts and a connector cable for the
batteries.
After getting home and opening the box the new trolling motor was in,
I
found a little bag of 6 long bolts, washers, and nuts, and after
reading
the
directions... they are for mounting the motor to the boat. But, the
rubber
ones are for mounting too! So, which method should I go with? The
rubber
isolators or the bolts with nuts?

Now... before you jump in here, there is a part two.

The rubber bolts keep the trolling motor from resting on the gelcoat
preventing damage. If I went with the bolts that were in the box,
should
I
use something with them to prevent the mount from damaging the
gelcoat,
or
is mounting the motor without a cushion ok?

insert calming music here

You know it's legal to pick up roadkill here in TN.

I'm not sure people enjoy watching me field-dress a fresh-killed doe right
next to a busy suburban street, but no one seems to mind if I haul it home,
hang it up in the side yard and do my business there. As long as we don't
put a bullet in the carcass, we're ok. I think I'm the only guy in Brentwood
who does this.... When I decide not to take the meat, a carcass will lie
there for up to a week before city services finally scoops it up.

With over 150,000 deer killed by vehicles in the state each year (180,000
are lumped in the "traffic kills/poaching" category), that's a lot of free
food just there for the taking.

We get a lot of deer in the yard. I'm not sure if running them down with the
yard tractor would qualify as roadkill, but I may put that to the test if
they don't stop eating the bark off my fruit trees!

By the time I'd have trouble distinguishing roadkill from a mudflap,
though -- even at a distance in a moving vehicle -- I'd say the critter is
past prime and should be passed on by.

Joe
________________
"Bob Rickard" wrote in message
...
Wow! I pull over for any kind of old roadkill. I knew we were just alike,
Joe.


"Joe Haubenreich" rofbmail (at) secretweaponlures (dot) com wrote in
message ...
Charles,

I have several truck mud flaps in the garage, too. Let me know if you want
them. When I see them lying by the road, I pull over and toss them in the
truck. They've come in real handy for a number of projects over time, so I
keep a couple on hand.

Joe
_________
"Jerry Barton (NervisRek)" wrote in message
...
Outstanding suggestions Pat. I just happen to have a couple of truck mud
flaps in the garage, but I'm sure he'll want to install it way before we
get
to Center Hill. Now I'm thinking about changing mine to the way you said.



"Pat Goff @yahoo.com" pmgoffjrbot wrote in message
...
Charles,
Take those rubber pieces of garbage and throw them straight into the
trash.
Useless would be a compliment.

Here's Pats two best way to mount a troll motor.
1. Absolute best way: **IF** you can get underneath to thru bolt it on,
go
buy a rubber truck mud flap, cut it out the same size as your troll
motor
mount. set your mount on the big rubber pad you just made, and use
stainless bolts, fiber lock nuts and the biggest dang washers you can,
and
suck that mount down to the deck. It will never give you trouble.

2. Almost abolute best way. If you can NOT hold a wrench under the deck
to
thru bolt, get some stainless "togglers" which can be had at your marine
dealer, use the same mudflap for a bracket pad, and those will never
give
you trouble.

Those cheezy rubber isolators are just a disaster waiting to happen.


"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
...
Ok, time for another round of "Charles's Idiot Questions", with your
host...
Charles Summers!

Thank you contestants, you know the rules... the first person with the
most
convincing argument wins!

First question, for $100... I went to the local BPS to pick up some of
those
little rubber trolling motor bolts and a connector cable for the
batteries.
After getting home and opening the box the new trolling motor was in,
I
found a little bag of 6 long bolts, washers, and nuts, and after
reading
the
directions... they are for mounting the motor to the boat. But, the
rubber
ones are for mounting too! So, which method should I go with? The
rubber
isolators or the bolts with nuts?

Now... before you jump in here, there is a part two.

The rubber bolts keep the trolling motor from resting on the gelcoat
preventing damage. If I went with the bolts that were in the box,
should
I
use something with them to prevent the mount from damaging the
gelcoat,
or
is mounting the motor without a cushion ok?

insert calming music here

Truck mud flaps are great for lots of stuff. I used a pice of one to make a
mud deflector on my wife's harley on the front of the rear fender to keep it
from throwing mud and dirt all over her transmissions and engine.

--
** Public Fishing and Boating Forums
** www.YumaBassMan.com


"Joe Haubenreich" rofbmail (at) secretweaponlures (dot) com wrote in
message ...
Charles,

I have several truck mud flaps in the garage, too. Let me know if you want
them. When I see them lying by the road, I pull over and toss them in the
truck. They've come in real handy for a number of projects over time, so I
keep a couple on hand.

Joe
_________
"Jerry Barton (NervisRek)" wrote in message
...
Outstanding suggestions Pat. I just happen to have a couple of truck mud
flaps in the garage, but I'm sure he'll want to install it way before we
get
to Center Hill. Now I'm thinking about changing mine to the way you said.



"Pat Goff @yahoo.com" pmgoffjrbot wrote in message
...
Charles,
Take those rubber pieces of garbage and throw them straight into the
trash.
Useless would be a compliment.

Here's Pats two best way to mount a troll motor.
1. Absolute best way: **IF** you can get underneath to thru bolt it on,
go
buy a rubber truck mud flap, cut it out the same size as your troll
motor
mount. set your mount on the big rubber pad you just made, and use
stainless bolts, fiber lock nuts and the biggest dang washers you can,
and
suck that mount down to the deck. It will never give you trouble.

2. Almost abolute best way. If you can NOT hold a wrench under the deck
to
thru bolt, get some stainless "togglers" which can be had at your marine
dealer, use the same mudflap for a bracket pad, and those will never
give
you trouble.

Those cheezy rubber isolators are just a disaster waiting to happen.


"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
...
Ok, time for another round of "Charles's Idiot Questions", with your
host...
Charles Summers!

Thank you contestants, you know the rules... the first person with the
most
convincing argument wins!

First question, for $100... I went to the local BPS to pick up some of
those
little rubber trolling motor bolts and a connector cable for the
batteries.
After getting home and opening the box the new trolling motor was in,
I
found a little bag of 6 long bolts, washers, and nuts, and after
reading
the
directions... they are for mounting the motor to the boat. But, the
rubber
ones are for mounting too! So, which method should I go with? The
rubber
isolators or the bolts with nuts?

Now... before you jump in here, there is a part two.

The rubber bolts keep the trolling motor from resting on the gelcoat
preventing damage. If I went with the bolts that were in the box,
should
I
use something with them to prevent the mount from damaging the
gelcoat,
or
is mounting the motor without a cushion ok?

insert calming music here