Ok, I've stayed out of the shared weight thread, But...

Ronnie Garrison wrote:
So there are no individual prizes this year?

Ronnie

Charles B. Summers wrote:

I don't know about the Fritz/Warren thing, but maybe I have my notes
around
here somewhere that I can check.

But, the prize distribution is 65% to the first place team and 35% to the
second place team. Ties broken by big fish between the two.

Big fish pot will be 100% for the single largest fish caught during
the two
days.


"Ronnie Garrison" wrote in message
.. .

Charles B. Summers wrote:


Will do!

And since only one person had an objection to the rule about the five


fish

limit, we're going to keep it the same with no changes.

Sorry Chris... LOL


OK, now I am confused. The boat limit is 5, not an individual limit?
Then how did Fritz and Warren each weigh in five fish while fishing
together the second day of the Dale Hollow tournament? And how do you
decide individual prizes as has been done in the past?






Hmmm, I hope I didn't cause all of this MTC stuff by my shared weight
opinions. My biggest problem of all with it was what Velvick said,
about a back boater, missing a fish, and requesting the pro to pitch
back in there to catch that fish. I just don't get what kind of
satisfaction you can get out of that. I don't see how you can say you
did anything to win. If you just fish tournaments for monetary reasons,
then I guess that is fine, but I guess I am just motivated by something
else.

Again these were just my opinions, and of course B.A.S.S said they used
a lot of focus groups to determine if this was a good idea. I can bet
that the people with a competitive edge in their blood hated the idea,
and the pros are like..eh. Now like mentioned earlier, they don't have
to worry about back boating the amateur.

Chris

Well Steve is working on a nice dropshot rod this year...


"Ronnie Garrison" wrote in message
.. .
So there are no individual prizes this year?

Ronnie

I don't really care what the rules are, I just want to know so I can
follow them. I will fish no matter what is decided.

BUT - the rules state:
Scoring - The pounds and ounces of each teams catch during the
tournament will determine tournament standings. Only largemouth, spotted
(Kentucky), and smallmouth bass will be weighed. The creel limit will be
5 fish per boat, (5 per boat). At no time shall any team have in their
livewell more than the tournament limit.

So no more than five fish in any boat for the two fishermen. How does
this work with individual prizes?

If Charles has five two pound bass and his partner then catches a 2.5
and a 3, they are going to cull. Charles would have had 10 pounds
individually, he now has 6. Say I catch five 1.5 pound fish and my
partner does not catch a fish. Do I beat Charles for individual weigh -
I will have 7.5 pounds in the five I can bring in.

Maybe I have been tournament director in my clubs for too long, but I
just want to make sure I understand the rules. I am about due for a 2
day Zero, so it probalby won't matter.

Ronnie


Charles B. Summers wrote:

Well Steve is working on a nice dropshot rod this year...


"Ronnie Garrison" wrote in message
.. .

So there are no individual prizes this year?

Ronnie

You raise some great points here Ronnie that I'm going to have to defer to
Joe... Maybe I can get him to chime in.


"Ronnie Garrison" wrote in message
.. .
I don't really care what the rules are, I just want to know so I can
follow them. I will fish no matter what is decided.

BUT - the rules state:
Scoring - The pounds and ounces of each teams catch during the
tournament will determine tournament standings. Only largemouth, spotted
(Kentucky), and smallmouth bass will be weighed. The creel limit will be
5 fish per boat, (5 per boat). At no time shall any team have in their
livewell more than the tournament limit.

So no more than five fish in any boat for the two fishermen. How does
this work with individual prizes?

If Charles has five two pound bass and his partner then catches a 2.5
and a 3, they are going to cull. Charles would have had 10 pounds
individually, he now has 6. Say I catch five 1.5 pound fish and my
partner does not catch a fish. Do I beat Charles for individual weigh -
I will have 7.5 pounds in the five I can bring in.

Maybe I have been tournament director in my clubs for too long, but I
just want to make sure I understand the rules. I am about due for a 2
day Zero, so it probalby won't matter.

Ronnie

I agree with Ronnie on this one
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"Ronnie Garrison" wrote in message
.. .
I don't really care what the rules are, I just want to know so I can follow
them. I will fish no matter what is decided.

BUT - the rules state:
Scoring - The pounds and ounces of each teams catch during the tournament
will determine tournament standings. Only largemouth, spotted (Kentucky),
and smallmouth bass will be weighed. The creel limit will be 5 fish per
boat, (5 per boat). At no time shall any team have in their livewell more
than the tournament limit.

So no more than five fish in any boat for the two fishermen. How does this
work with individual prizes?

If Charles has five two pound bass and his partner then catches a 2.5 and
a 3, they are going to cull. Charles would have had 10 pounds
individually, he now has 6. Say I catch five 1.5 pound fish and my partner
does not catch a fish. Do I beat Charles for individual weigh - I will
have 7.5 pounds in the five I can bring in.

Maybe I have been tournament director in my clubs for too long, but I just
want to make sure I understand the rules. I am about due for a 2 day
Zero, so it probalby won't matter.

Ronnie

You have already proven that with me Joe. I'll partner up with you anyday


"Joe Haubenreich" swljoe-at-secretweaponlures-dot-com wrote in message
news:2005031307033023017%swljoeatsecretweaponlures ...
On 2005-03-13 01:32:19 -0600, "Charles B. Summers"
said:

snip... would you like to see the rules changed where the MTC is a one
against one tournament or keep it a team effort?

New newsreader... Let's see how it posts. (Unison for Mac)

Refresh my memory.... what's the penalty again for bringing in dead fish?
Because if I put more than five bass in the ODF's livewell, I can pretty
much guarantee I'll have to eat the penalty (as well as the fillets,
eventually). I'm counting on me and my partner bringing in ten bass per
day on this thing if we each can weigh in five. Either that, or I'll put
them on a stringer and toss them over the side... which doesn't do much
for the survival rate either.

Actually, I've always enjoyed buddy tournaments... where both anglers both
contribute to the creel and share the prizes. Nothing at all wrong with
that format... there are probably a thousand buddy tournaments held each
week across the country during fishing seasons.

Having said that, though, I'm game for anything. Among this group, I doubt
competing against the guy on the other end of the boat will have any
impact on how freely we share advice, lures, casting deck space, and
likely targets.
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I'm torn seeing the virtue and the downside of both versions. Perhaps a
hybrid . . . the non boater must land at least one fish . . two fish ? I
dunno.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear

Ok lets stop this nonsense right now. here is how it will go.

1. we get together and draw/select teams for day 1

2. Everyone fish's hard, we get back to the launch and we BS about this fish
and that fish and a couple fish will even be weighed. We all talk about how
lousy it is that the rain/cold front moved in and how the fish shut down

3. We BS about this fish and that fish and we drink and eat. Everyone
decides that the lure from the guy who caught two fish is the lure to go to.

3. Awards after day 1, still anyone's game for day two We draw partners for
day two

4. We drink some more. Still anyone's game

5. sleep,wake up and fish hard again. Some will catch a few and some will
not. We get back we weigh fish and we eat and drink some more.

6. We laugh, we laugh some more. We BS about this fish and that fish and we
go to the awards ceremony. Somebody wins and no one is disapointed at the
results.

7, we all go home counting the months to the NWC

If your coming to the MTC with just winning a tourney in mind, you might be
disapointed. On the other hand if your coming for good times and some time
out on the water with people that for the most part you talk with over this
NG, you will get more out of it then you could ever imagine. Good people,
good times and even some fishing thrown in.


That being said, Victory is MINE!!!!!! :-)

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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
Personally I fish mostly team tournaments, and I feel it eliminates most
conflicts between boaters and non-boaters. Of course since I won't be
making it...

For a two day even I think a team format with random draws for boater and
non-boater and no team can fish together two days in a row makes it as
level
as you can get.



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"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
...
The Mid-Tenn Classic is set up as a team event where one boat can only
have
five fish weighed in at the end of the day. This is pretty much the way
that
we've had all of the MTC's so far and does promote a team effort to the
tournament. But it appears that some people are having conflicts about
this
way of thinking.

So here's my question, and I'm open for anything. We want everyone to
have
a
good time and to put all indifferences aside, so would you like to see
the
rules changed where the MTC is a one against one tournament or keep it a
team effort? It just takes about 3 minutes to alter the rules page, so
let's
hear your vote and the majority will win.

Have fun y'all!

Very well said, Randy... except that last line.


"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...


That being said, Victory is MINE!!!!!! :-)

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A&A National Fishing Team

Hell Charles, my money is on you..or Joe, all I do know for certain is I
will be on the back of the Nitro on day two, that's a given
"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
...
Very well said, Randy... except that last line.


"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...


That being said, Victory is MINE!!!!!! :-)

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A&A National Fishing Team