Alaska Arolik River (Mini Version)

Willi wrote:
Tom Nakashima wrote:

I hope you can relate

to me using lightweight tackle. Throwing #4 Zuddlers and hooking up on
big leopard rainbows really doesn't do much for me. For one, you can't
see the strike, just feel it, and so what if you drag your prize in by
using 8 lb test line.
Last year I spent most of my time just working on presentation for
Alaska, using my 5wt., 5x leaders and 3 lb tippets. It's almost like a
dare to see how small I could go, and to test my dry-fly skills...to
see if it could be done.
I started using #18 Adams patterns, to #16, to #14 and finally ending
up with #12 Adams pattern, which the 4 -plus pounders seem interested
in....if presented right.
Yes, I was at my limit using 3 lb tippet with the #12, but I doubled
the loop in the eye when tying the clinch knot. I was making smooth
cast at 60', but still had sight of my fly. It's a thrill to see the
swirl the rainbows make as they take the fly down. A simple lifting of
the rod and a gentle pull with the line hand and I had them hooked.
Whoever said large Alaska Leopard Rainbows aren't smart, hasn't fished
the dry fly yet. The rainbows all seem to have the same thing in mind
when hooked. They dart toward you as if to think you lost them, and
you're reeling in like mad, then they instantly dart out, you have to
have fast reactions and your drag set loose. As I said before a
mid-flex rod to keep the bend, and monofilament line helps as a
cushion because of the stretch. I've seen trout come out of the water,
but not 3 to 4 feet and so violently shaking their heads...repeatedly
5 to 8 times. They also try to bury themselves in the mud, I suppose
that's a defense. I'll have to say I stayed pretty relaxed throughout
the battle. After about 30 minutes, it seemed like taming a wild
horse, but not without a great fight. The only problem is that I
think I got spoiled now...but I'll be back in Alaska in two years or
sooner.
sorry, got more then you wanted to hear, just got carried away.
-tom




I was going to let this slide but from reading your posts, I sense that
you're a conscientious angler concerned about the welfare of the
fisheries. The Alaskan Fish and Game feels that the Rainbow populations
are vulnerable to sport fishermen are the most protected species in
terms of limits etc. Many rivers (the Arolik too I believe) are C&R for
Rainbows. Others have very low limits.

You CAN fish light tackle with little harm to the fish but when your
tackle is so light that it is the norm for you to take 20 to 30 minutes
to land a trout, IMO, your gear is too light. After a fight of that
length, lactic acid is going to build up heavily in the trout's system.
Even though it may swim off fine, its life can be threatened by this
build up. A Google search will turn up lots of info about this. Although
I can't claim to know where that line is drawn, from reading the
research, I'm convinced that a 20 to 30 minute fight for a trout is
going to have some negative effects.

Willi

Not related to Tom's experiences. Here's a few things I stumble
across(yes, I admit to using google), when looking up proper catch and
release practices.

http://www.gofishbc.com/tips_articles/catch_release.htm

http://www.alaskafishing.com/ezlimit...one_right.html

http://www.boatersworld.com/static/b...ng-survey.html

Pretty basic stuff. All mention lactic acid as being potentially harmful
or lethal.

brians

"briansfly" wrote in message
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Willi wrote:
Tom Nakashima wrote:

I hope you can relate

to me using lightweight tackle. Throwing #4 Zuddlers and hooking up on
big leopard rainbows really doesn't do much for me. For one, you can't
see the strike, just feel it, and so what if you drag your prize in by
using 8 lb test line.
Last year I spent most of my time just working on presentation for
Alaska, using my 5wt., 5x leaders and 3 lb tippets. It's almost like a
dare to see how small I could go, and to test my dry-fly skills...to see
if it could be done.
I started using #18 Adams patterns, to #16, to #14 and finally ending up
with #12 Adams pattern, which the 4 -plus pounders seem interested
in....if presented right.
Yes, I was at my limit using 3 lb tippet with the #12, but I doubled the
loop in the eye when tying the clinch knot. I was making smooth cast at
60', but still had sight of my fly. It's a thrill to see the swirl the
rainbows make as they take the fly down. A simple lifting of the rod and
a gentle pull with the line hand and I had them hooked.
Whoever said large Alaska Leopard Rainbows aren't smart, hasn't fished
the dry fly yet. The rainbows all seem to have the same thing in mind
when hooked. They dart toward you as if to think you lost them, and
you're reeling in like mad, then they instantly dart out, you have to
have fast reactions and your drag set loose. As I said before a
mid-flex rod to keep the bend, and monofilament line helps as a cushion
because of the stretch. I've seen trout come out of the water, but not 3
to 4 feet and so violently shaking their heads...repeatedly 5 to 8
times. They also try to bury themselves in the mud, I suppose that's a
defense. I'll have to say I stayed pretty relaxed throughout the
battle. After about 30 minutes, it seemed like taming a wild horse, but
not without a great fight. The only problem is that I think I got
spoiled now...but I'll be back in Alaska in two years or sooner.
sorry, got more then you wanted to hear, just got carried away.
-tom




I was going to let this slide but from reading your posts, I sense that
you're a conscientious angler concerned about the welfare of the
fisheries. The Alaskan Fish and Game feels that the Rainbow populations
are vulnerable to sport fishermen are the most protected species in terms
of limits etc. Many rivers (the Arolik too I believe) are C&R for
Rainbows. Others have very low limits.

You CAN fish light tackle with little harm to the fish but when your
tackle is so light that it is the norm for you to take 20 to 30 minutes
to land a trout, IMO, your gear is too light. After a fight of that
length, lactic acid is going to build up heavily in the trout's system.
Even though it may swim off fine, its life can be threatened by this
build up. A Google search will turn up lots of info about this. Although
I can't claim to know where that line is drawn, from reading the
research, I'm convinced that a 20 to 30 minute fight for a trout is going
to have some negative effects.

Willi

Not related to Tom's experiences. Here's a few things I stumble
across(yes, I admit to using google), when looking up proper catch and
release practices.

http://www.gofishbc.com/tips_articles/catch_release.htm

http://www.alaskafishing.com/ezlimit...one_right.html

http://www.boatersworld.com/static/b...ng-survey.html

Pretty basic stuff. All mention lactic acid as being potentially harmful
or lethal.

brians


Thanks for the links Brians, some very good reading.
-tom

Tom Nakashima wrote:
"Willi" wrote:
...
You CAN fish light tackle with little harm to the fish but when your
tackle is so light that it is the norm for you to take 20 to 30 minutes to
land a trout, IMO, your gear is too light. ...

Well perhaps I should be even more of a conscientious angler after reading
your Re. ...

I like fishing light tackle but Willi's right, 20 minutes is
too long to fight a fish you intend to release. You mentioned
5X and 6X tippets and that's just unnecessary. Use the largest
tippet that will fit through the eye of your hook and you'll
be able to bring the fish to hand much quicker. With flies
bigger than 18 that means 4X or bigger.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 13:28:25 -0700, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:

After about 30 minutes, it
seemed like taming a wild horse, but not without a great fight.

Why would you want to play a 4 pound trout for 30 minutes? That just
isn't the way it should be done. Lee Wulff had a formula - a pound a
minute. Sounds reasonable to me. I landed 10 pound rainbows in
alaska in under 10 minutes and it wasn't because I was using light
tackle - I used the necessary tackle to land such fish in a reasonable
time, without undue stress on the fish. If you insist on 6 x tippet,
why not use a 1 weight rod?

Other than that, nice report, Tom. I just got back from Labrador and
had a great time with 5 pound brookies on 4x tippet, landing and
releasing about 40 fish every day.

Dave