Fifty Places to Fly Fish Before You Die (by Chris Santella)

On Dec 27, 4:30 pm, "rb608" wrote:
"jeff" wrote in message
there was nothing in your post that required or even invited a negative
comment, imo. i read it and appreciated it. thanks.

Taken in isolation, his Fifty Places post is as you suggest; but coming as
it did less than 24 hours following a complaint about obscene consumerism,
the irony of boasting of one's fly fishing travels practically jumped out of
the screen at me. Personally, I got a chuckle; but I'm not surprised at the
subsequent flames and defensiveness.

It *does* sound like a great book; but the timing of the review coiuld have
been better. :-)

Joe F.

No matter what any of the long term contributors on here post, their
"history", and the invariably biased views of other long term posters,
largely prevents anything simply being taken objectively and simply on
its merits. This is more or less independent of any particular
temporal juxtaposition. Probably another reason why many people post
less and less as time goes by.There is very little point in posting
anything much if the only return is brickbats from the same idiots.

MC

On Dec 26, 4:12*pm, rw wrote:

An important part of fly fishing, for me, has imagining and anticipating
a new place or a new species. (More often than not, the reality doesn't
live up to the dream.) The person who gave me the book knows that, so it
was a thoughtful gift.

I too received the book as a gift, albeit a couple of years ago. I
didn't see it as consumerish as some apparently do and read it with
the same sense that I might read a national geographic. Depending on
what the future holds I might get the chance to fish some of the
places and perhaps might even have some success, we'll see.

The person who gave it to me knew I liked to read, fly fish, and
experience new things ergo I agree it was a thoughtful gift. No the
book doesn't go in the same class as "On the Spine of Time" but its a
nice little read none the less.

Congratulations on the 18% success, I'm not even close to that.

Not sure why the acrimony in this thread but if that floats some
boats.......

I did 25 so far then I
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:40:21 -0800 (PST), Wayne Knight
wrote:

Not sure why the acrimony in this thread but if that floats some
boats.....

Acrimony? Normal roff banter, started when Barnard pulled off his
impression of Scrooge and "obscene commercialism", and then, less than
24 hours later starts bragging about his own obscene commercialism.

Irony or hypocrisy would better describe it instead of acrimony.

Dave

Dave LaCourse wrote:
Wayne Knight wrote:

Not sure why the acrimony in this thread but if that floats some
boats.....

Acrimony? Normal roff banter, started when Barnard pulled off his
impression of Scrooge and "obscene commercialism", and then, less than
24 hours later starts bragging about his own obscene commercialism.

Irony or hypocrisy would better describe it instead of acrimony.

"Oh, Give them Irony and Give them Pity.

"Oh, give them Irony. When they're feeling...

"Just a little irony.

"Just a little pity..."


- JR
(who, come to think of it, is beginning to feel a bit sorry for
himself--for all of us, in fact--right about now.....)

On Dec 26, 11:12*am, rw wrote:
I received this book as a Christmas present. Naturally, I first had to
see how many of the places I've already fished:

Alaska -- Bristol Bay: Rainbow Trout and Silver Salmon Around Bristol Bay

California: Brown and Rainbow Trout Around Greater Redding

Florida: Permit off the Florida Keys
(Didn't catch a permit, or much of anything)

Idaho -- Last Chance: Rainbow Trout on the Henry's Fork

Idaho -- Stanley: Cutthroat Trout on the Middle Fork of the Salmon River

Kiribati: Giant Trevally Off Christmas Island
(Didn't catch a Giant Trevally, but lots of Bonefish)

Montana -- Fort Smith: Brown and Rainbow Trout on the Bighorn River

Wyoming: Brown and Rainbow Trout on the Firehole River
(It was too warm for decent fishing)

Wyoming and Montana: Brown and Rainbow Trout on the Madison River

Only 41 more to go! Too little time left. :-)

On the top of my wish list is Seychelles Islands: Bonefish on
St.François Lagoon.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Here's a list of all 50 places.
http://www.meosphere.com/User/WhatIt...&InfoID=231234

I checked it out of the library a couple of years ago. Nice pictures.
The author writes books on were the best 50 places to do lots of
things, play golf, watch birds, eat hamburgers etc. etc.
I was not and am still not convinced that he knows much about
fishing.
Roff could come with a list of the 50 best places to fly fish that
would be just as valid.
I think there is a calendar on this same theme but not a many places.
I can't fault the author, he's got a good scam. He gets to travel
take pictures ( I don't think he takes them all), fish play golf,
watch birds etc.

BJ Conner wrote:

Here's a list of all 50 places.
http://www.meosphere.com/User/WhatIt...&InfoID=231234

I checked it out of the library a couple of years ago. Nice pictures.
The author writes books on were the best 50 places to do lots of
things, play golf, watch birds, eat hamburgers etc. etc.
I was not and am still not convinced that he knows much about
fishing.
Roff could come with a list of the 50 best places to fly fish that
would be just as valid.
I think there is a calendar on this same theme but not a many places.
I can't fault the author, he's got a good scam. He gets to travel
take pictures ( I don't think he takes them all), fish play golf,
watch birds etc.

That's a great point. It's a brilliant scam. (This was, however,
according to the dust jacket, his first book.)

Even better, he didn't even have to write the book, except for the
introduction and the editing. All the entries are written by third
parties, none of whose names I recognize except for Ernest Schwiebert.

This guy can write off all his travel expenses, taken off the top of his
earnings (from the book) before taxes. He has to check out the
recommendations, right?

Brilliant.

As long as he sells enough books he's living the life, and the book
obviously makes a natural excellent gift for someone in her life who
loves fly fishing. :-)

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rw wrote:


On the top of my wish list is Seychelles Islands: Bonefish on
St.François Lagoon.



Checked out Seychelles and from Denver it's a 2 1/2 or 3 DAY flight and
just the flight costs almost $5000! Then from there you have to get to
the island where you're staying. Not an easy place to get to. Can't see
going there anytime soon.

Willi

Willi wrote:
rw wrote:


On the top of my wish list is Seychelles Islands: Bonefish on
St.François Lagoon.



Checked out Seychelles and from Denver it's a 2 1/2 or 3 DAY flight and
just the flight costs almost $5000! Then from there you have to get to
the island where you're staying. Not an easy place to get to. Can't see
going there anytime soon.

Willi

It's just a dream for now, Willi.

Another destination in the book that sounds great, and much more
affordable and accessible, is Cuba: Tarpon off Jardines de la Pinta.
(Also supposedly excellent bonefishing.) Remember those two English
twins (from York, IIRC) we met in Belize who'd just come from there?
Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.

As American citizens we'd have to break the law to go there. Isn't that
****ed up?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rw wrote:
Willi wrote:

rw wrote:


On the top of my wish list is Seychelles Islands: Bonefish on
St.François Lagoon.



Checked out Seychelles and from Denver it's a 2 1/2 or 3 DAY flight and
just the flight costs almost $5000! Then from there you have to get to
the island where you're staying. Not an easy place to get to. Can't
see going there anytime soon.

Willi


It's just a dream for now, Willi.


I like to fly but a 3 day flight is crazy!



Another destination in the book that sounds great, and much more
affordable and accessible, is Cuba: Tarpon off Jardines de la Pinta.
(Also supposedly excellent bonefishing.) Remember those two English
twins (from York, IIRC) we met in Belize who'd just come from there?
Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.



They were a pair! Interesting guys. They really liked Cuba.

Whipray Caye was fun. The Cabrals were a fascinating family.



As American citizens we'd have to break the law to go there. Isn't that
****ed up?



It is stupid. I thought Fidel was a goner but the pictures I saw of him
recently made him look much improved (if you can go by that).

I'd be up for a Cuba trip. I think it can be done from Belize. The key
is NOT getting your passport stamped.

It's a vacation destination (I think number 1) for Belizians. If that's
the case, you must be able to do Cuba on the cheap. I'll ask around when
Susan and I are in Belize next month.

Willi