TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS

"Jim Ray" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Mike:

Nice to see that you are back... and as poetic as ever. Sorry to detect a
bit of melancholy in this one. Hope that it passes quickly for you, and
you
again find pleasure in things once held dear.

Jim Ray

Thanks. There is a bit of melancholy in everything I suppose.

TL
MC

We are forgetting one very important fact , WE THE ROD BUILDERS GIVE
BUSINESS TO THE ROD COMPONENT COMPANIES( SPONSORS IN THIS CASE ).
But the original post is not about sponsors, as they are doing a
splendid job,
its about keeping knowledge from the Rod Crafter because of a
vendetta.
No one said Rod Maker magazine is a bad magazine. No one said
rodbuilding.org
is a bad board. No one said Tom kirkman is a bad person, all that was
said is a certain information was kept out cause
a vendetta between Tom Kirkman and Dick French (broken down).
rodbuilding.org is for the Rod Crafter to advance her or him, when
vital knowledge is kept out we all suffer. rodbilding.org is a public
site.
Tom Kirkman owns said site and gets paid by the sponsors to advertise
but no sponsors would take down a better deal and if any disagree
stand now and be heard.
WHEN ANYONE KEEPS KNOWLEDGE FROM BEING HEARD BY THE ROD CRAFTER
ESPECIALLY
ON SUCH A SITE THEN ITS WRONG.THIS DOESN'T MEAN TOM KIRKMAN IS A BAD
PERSON AS MANY HAVE TRIED TO INFORM ME IN EMAIL, BUT ONLY THAT THE ACT
IS WRONG.

Many talk about only sponsors are able to advertise, this is not
correct.
I have read many old and new post and seen many write urls or emails
about companies that are not sponsors.

AGAIN WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A VENDETTA.


Happy Holidays

Sincerely
bluestonerod

In article ,
foamed at the mouth...

AGAIN WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A VENDETTA.


And so what's the BFD? We got so many vendettas on ROFF that
you can't hardly make a cast without snagging one of the sumbitches
on your backcast. We _like_ vendettas around here. When we see
a little baby grudge hatching, we protect it and nurse it along
until it grows into a full grown adult vendetta. We got so many
that we export our surplus to Sicily.

Kevin

"Kevin Vang" wrote in message
...
In article ,
foamed at the mouth...

AGAIN WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A VENDETTA.


And so what's the BFD? We got so many vendettas on ROFF that
you can't hardly make a cast without snagging one of the sumbitches
on your backcast. We _like_ vendettas around here. When we see
a little baby grudge hatching, we protect it and nurse it along
until it grows into a full grown adult vendetta. We got so many
that we export our surplus to Sicily.

SPLORK!
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TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj

(Bluestone) wrote in
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We are forgetting one very important fact , WE THE ROD BUILDERS GIVE
BUSINESS TO THE ROD COMPONENT COMPANIES( SPONSORS IN THIS CASE ).
But the original post is not about sponsors, as they are doing a
splendid job,
its about keeping knowledge from the Rod Crafter because of a
vendetta.
No one said Rod Maker magazine is a bad magazine. No one said
rodbuilding.org
is a bad board. No one said Tom kirkman is a bad person, all that was
said is a certain information was kept out cause
a vendetta between Tom Kirkman and Dick French (broken down).
rodbuilding.org is for the Rod Crafter to advance her or him, when
vital knowledge is kept out we all suffer. rodbilding.org is a public
site.

Rodbuilding.org is not a public site. Somebody owns the name. Somebody
pays to have the site hosted, Somebody puts the time into keeping it
running. That person has signed no contract guaranteeing you any
services. That site owes you nothing.

Tom Kirkman owns said site and gets paid by the sponsors to advertise
but no sponsors would take down a better deal and if any disagree
stand now and be heard.
WHEN ANYONE KEEPS KNOWLEDGE FROM BEING HEARD BY THE ROD CRAFTER
ESPECIALLY
ON SUCH A SITE THEN ITS WRONG.THIS DOESN'T MEAN TOM KIRKMAN IS A BAD
PERSON AS MANY HAVE TRIED TO INFORM ME IN EMAIL, BUT ONLY THAT THE ACT
IS WRONG.

Actually, it sounds like this Tom guy has a beef with someone, serious
enough to remove references to some group or company from his board, and
he's too much of a gentleman to publicly say what it is.


Many talk about only sponsors are able to advertise, this is not
correct.

No one has a right to advertise on anyone's site. No one can make a
private business do business with anyone else.

I have read many old and new post and seen many write urls or emails
about companies that are not sponsors.

AGAIN WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A VENDETTA.

And the site owner is entitled to his vendetta.



Happy Holidays

Sincerely
bluestonerod

Scott

There is more to the story that what "Mr. Perez" is telling. Tom
makes everyone post a valid email address so Mr. Perez could have
easily sent a personal email to anyone asking for the information he
said he was providing. But the thing is that no one was asking for
it. Mr. Perez simply came on the board with the express purpose of
advertising for a non sponsor!!! That's why it was pulled down and it
should have been.

I think the tables need to be turned and Mr. Perez should be more
honest about his motives and who he was working on behalf of. He had
been incontact with the sponsor he was advertising for. Was he asked
to do this or did he do it on his own accord? I don't know but I do
know that the rules on the board plainly state that it is not allowed.

Gingercatz wrote:

There is more to the story that what "Mr. Perez" is telling. ...

I'm gonna have to ask for some help with my scorecard here. This
"Mr. Perez", is he Bluestone aka bluestonerod ? And you, are you
Tom, or Mr. Howell, or the Skipper or Gilligan ?

In short, WHO IN THE HELL ARE ALL YOU MORONIC WHINY ASSHOLES and
why do you think we give a good goddamn about an obscure magazine
and an even more obscure tightassed bulletin board ?

Kindly take your puerile and petty little drama somewhere where
someone actually gives a ****.

Try alt.anonymous.whiners.with.stupid.screen.names

HTH

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Gingercatz wrote:

There is more to the story that what "Mr. Perez" is telling. ...

I'm gonna have to ask for some help with my scorecard here. This
"Mr. Perez", is he Bluestone aka bluestonerod ? And you, are you
Tom, or Mr. Howell, or the Skipper or Gilligan ?

In short, WHO IN THE HELL ARE ALL YOU MORONIC WHINY ASSHOLES and
why do you think we give a good goddamn about an obscure magazine
and an even more obscure tightassed bulletin board ?

Kindly take your puerile and petty little drama somewhere where
someone actually gives a ****.

Try alt.anonymous.whiners.with.stupid.screen.names

Here, here! All I've been able to gather from this discourse is that SOMEONE
runs a moderated bulletin board and SOMEONE ELSE is ****ed because he moderated
it. Go figure.

And where's cyli? Isn't this her job? Or were elections held in my absence?
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TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Gingercatz wrote:

There is more to the story that what "Mr. Perez" is telling. ...

I'm gonna have to ask for some help with my scorecard here. This
"Mr. Perez", is he Bluestone aka bluestonerod ? And you, are you
Tom, or Mr. Howell, or the Skipper or Gilligan ?

In short, WHO IN THE HELL ARE ALL YOU MORONIC WHINY ASSHOLES and
why do you think we give a good goddamn about an obscure magazine
and an even more obscure tightassed bulletin board ?

Kindly take your puerile and petty little drama somewhere where
someone actually gives a ****.

Try alt.anonymous.whiners.with.stupid.screen.names

HTH

--
Ken Fortenberry

Oh, I don't know about all that. Seems to me it's that perspective thingy
again. I mean, yeah, if you work from the assumption that this is all being
done for our entertainment, then yes, it is a bit of a petty irritation. On
the other hand, if you assume that these halfwits are serious......not as
preposterous a proposition as it may first seem.......then it all becomes
vastly amusing. Um......think Snedeker with a vocabulary and a balanced
medication regimen.

Wolfgang

Wolfgang wrote:

... Seems to me it's that perspective thingy
again. I mean, yeah, if you work from the assumption that this is all being
done for our entertainment, then yes, it is a bit of a petty irritation. On
the other hand, if you assume that these halfwits are serious......not as
preposterous a proposition as it may first seem.......then it all becomes
vastly amusing. Um......think Snedeker with a vocabulary and a balanced
medication regimen.

One takes amusement where one finds it I guess, but a couple of weeks of
this silliness grows wearisome and I LIKE baiting the halfwits. I'm STILL
****ed at 'tripper for running off Mr. Magazine before his entertainment
value had expired.

BTW, if you ever have the opportunity to meet Dave Snedeker you two will
get along famously. Beneath that exterior of a wry, uncompromising,
scattergun sense of outrage lies an intelligent and humorous fishing buddy
with a wry, uncompromising, scattergun sense of outrage. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry