Lapland clave 2004

Roger The timetable was set when Myron told me that those dates were
Roger the best for him.

Ok.

Roger I wouldn't personally mind it if it happened a week later, but
Roger I'm more than OK with the set date too =). The pictures that I
Roger included in my first post were from the first week of August so
Roger normally it is a good time of the year for that area.

I don't know if one week really makes any difference, but I guess I
would prefer the earlier week for more light (less sleep? :-)) and
maybe a bit warmer weather.

I have an idea or two about good flies, but new ideas and suggestions
are always welcome. (The hottest part of the tying season starts right
after Christmas.)

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Jarmo Hurri

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Roger The timetable was set when Myron told me that those dates were
Roger the best for him.

Ok.

Roger I wouldn't personally mind it if it happened a week later, but
Roger I'm more than OK with the set date too =). The pictures that I
Roger included in my first post were from the first week of August so
Roger normally it is a good time of the year for that area.

I don't know if one week really makes any difference, but I guess I
would prefer the earlier week for more light (less sleep? :-)) and
maybe a bit warmer weather.

I have an idea or two about good flies, but new ideas and suggestions
are always welcome. (The hottest part of the tying season starts right
after Christmas.)

Jarmo,

Mayflies and caddisflies =)
Not the answer you wanted?
Well, here comes what I've discovered so far:

Caddisflies like elk hair caddis (hair winged caddises) with greenish body.
Actually all insect life in the area tend to have nuances of green. I think
it has to do with the greenish water.
Mayflies, also in green nuances. Last time we were up there an olive variant
of the Wulff series flies worked excellent.
Nymphs in the color "guess what", pupaes like the superpupae (olive).
Klinkhamer.
Black wooly buggers for streamers. Actually I've also tried an olive
(surprise) variant with some success.
Soft hackles in low water. Stewart's black spider. And yes, an olive
variant.

Of course almost any fly will do. It was during those days when fish weren't
cooperative that we found the color green/olive to do better than other
colors.

/Roger

Roger Well, here comes what I've discovered so far:

Roger Caddisflies like elk hair caddis (hair winged caddises) with
Roger greenish body. Actually all insect life in the area tend to
Roger have nuances of green. I think it has to do with the greenish
Roger water. Mayflies, also in green nuances. Last time we were up
Roger there an olive variant of the Wulff series flies worked
Roger excellent. Nymphs in the color "guess what", pupaes like the
Roger superpupae (olive). Klinkhamer. Black wooly buggers for
Roger streamers. Actually I've also tried an olive (surprise) variant
Roger with some success. Soft hackles in low water. Stewart's black
Roger spider. And yes, an olive variant.

The two times I've visited northern Sweden I've observed that green
Klinkhämers and Superpupas in various colors are very effective. Why
green Klinkhämers were effective seemed obvious after examining the
contents of the stomachs of a few fish: loads of some green insects
that had almost completed their metamorphosis. Last year Vaughan dug
up a couple of real hits from his vast collection of flies: the
Streaking Caddis and some *very* small fly.

The importance of mayflies up north - which is what you always hear
and read about - has fascinated me for some time. If I remember
correctly, we didn't really catch fish with adult mayfly imitations
last year, but we saw lots of these orange/brown mayflies flying
around:

http://www.cis.hut.fi/jarmo/fishing/...002/mayfly.jpg

Now what will be really interesting is to try to catch some
charr. Never caught one with fly-fishing gear before (just some small
ones with spinning gear). Any special tips for this mysterious but
delicious fish?

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Jarmo Hurri

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Vaughan: We talked earlier about fishing for sea-run charr in Finnmark
region. Still interested?

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Jarmo Hurri

I'm always interested Jarmo but next year will be somewhere between
difficult and impossible. Even joining the clave for that week is going to
be difficult but at worst I will join sometime Friday and stay on until
following weekend. After seeing Roger's pictures it would be hard to
resist..........

cheers

Vaughan

btw - how is the thesis going?

"Vaughan Hurry" wrote...
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After seeing Roger's pictures it would be hard to
resist..........

That is certainly the truth. What fine pictures of a beautiful area. If anyone
reading this thread is even close to your slice of the world, it should be hard
to resist attending.

Thanks for the photos, Roger.
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TL,
Tim
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Vaughan: We talked earlier about fishing for sea-run charr in
Finnmark region. Still interested?

Vaughan I'm always interested Jarmo but next year will be somewhere
Vaughan between difficult and impossible.

Ok, so I won't count you in this year.

Vaughan btw - how is the thesis going?

Defended the thesis successfully 10 days ago. Feels like a big weight
had been removed from my chest.

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Jarmo Hurri

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Defended the thesis successfully 10 days ago. Feels like a big weight
had been removed from my chest.

Congratulations!

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Jarmo Hurri wrote:

Defended the thesis successfully 10 days ago. Feels like a big weight
had been removed from my chest.

Congrats Jarmo.

Mu

"Jarmo Hurri" wrote in message
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I'm in, yes indeed.

Seeing all the follow-ups with speculations about the exact timetable
of the clave made me a bit unsure of whether the date is already
fixed. Is the main event August 2-10 for sure?

The reason I'm asking this is that the beginning of August is
typically also the time when our group is fishing for salmon in
northern Finland and Norway. They might be flexible, though, so I will
let me know my timetable once it's fixed. (The clave has the highest
priority for me.)



Hmmm, since my schedule seems to be a pivotal point to this entire clave
(too cool, thanks guys), maybe there's a way to get several things
accomplished here. Jarmo; when are the dates of your salmon trip, and are
you available to do both? I would be very amenable to proposing having the
Lapland Clave earlier (like the last week in July) so that you and Vaughan
could come along, if I could join up with you on the Salmon trip clave...
Would something like having the Lapp clave on July 26-Aug 1, then driving
north together for the Salmon trip work? I'd be way into doing both, if it
worked out.

--riverman

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"Jarmo Hurri" wrote in message
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I'm in, yes indeed.

Seeing all the follow-ups with speculations about the exact timetable
of the clave made me a bit unsure of whether the date is already
fixed. Is the main event August 2-10 for sure?

The reason I'm asking this is that the beginning of August is
typically also the time when our group is fishing for salmon in
northern Finland and Norway. They might be flexible, though, so I will
let me know my timetable once it's fixed. (The clave has the highest
priority for me.)



Hmmm, since my schedule seems to be a pivotal point to this entire clave
(too cool, thanks guys), maybe there's a way to get several things
accomplished here. Jarmo; when are the dates of your salmon trip, and are
you available to do both? I would be very amenable to proposing having the
Lapland Clave earlier (like the last week in July) so that you and Vaughan
could come along, if I could join up with you on the Salmon trip clave...
Would something like having the Lapp clave on July 26-Aug 1, then driving
north together for the Salmon trip work? I'd be way into doing both, if it
worked out.

--riverman


You guys.......

There's one more issue here. The cabin, as most of the Saami cabins in the
mountain area, is not normally available to rent.
It took quite a lot of persuasion and no small amount of work in locating
the owners and getting them to agree to rent it to me. Fred was mighty
surprised at the fact that I did get to rent it.
The Swedish government does not allow anyone but the original inhabitants of
this area, the Saami, to build anything within the area.
This means that cabins like this one is normally impossible to get a hold
of.
Also, while the last week in July would mean even brighter summer nights,
the fishing is normally better in August. As you could see last year the
fishing got better and better during our stay. That high up in the mountain
it isn't normally as warm water as what you experienced last year and as
such that won't affect fishing all that much.
If possible, try to stick to these dates. Although I myself will probably be
staying longer in order to fish with the late arriving Vaughan.
We have to arrange for the dates when you want to be picked up by the
helicopter. It will possibly take us three and three or four and four
depending on how many we will be. So if three of us want to get home a day
or two early we have to tell the pilot about this before flying out. The
mobile phone coverage is under all criticism in this area, but once in a
while you can climb a mountain and send an SMS message.

/Roger