Airport Security and Travel Rods

"Christian Figenschou" wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 19:46:58 GMT, (Greg Pavlov)
wrote:

It works for me: I've never actually lost
luggage tho I've had it delivered late on
two occasions. My guess is that I have
checked luggage about 300 times.

But you would surely agree that the chances of it getting lost or
being delayed are dramatically bigger when checked compared to lugging
it on-board yourself?

Sure if you can get it on board, get through the security checks without
being strip searched, and not miss your flight.

F.Y.I. - I usually travel with a large aresenal of rods for a big trip, and
not all are travel rods. I've had to find the best way to get them there by
checking them. Shipping them is safer then checking them, but checking
them (w/insurance) is cheaper.

"Christian Figenschou" wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 19:46:58 GMT, (Greg Pavlov)
wrote:

It works for me: I've never actually lost
luggage tho I've had it delivered late on
two occasions. My guess is that I have
checked luggage about 300 times.

But you would surely agree that the chances of it getting lost or
being delayed are dramatically bigger when checked compared to lugging
it on-board yourself?

Sure if you can get it on board, get through the security checks without
being strip searched, and not miss your flight.

F.Y.I. - I usually travel with a large aresenal of rods for a big trip, and
not all are travel rods. I've had to find the best way to get them there by
checking them. Shipping them is safer then checking them, but checking
them (w/insurance) is cheaper.

Christian Figenschou wrote in
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 19:46:58 GMT, (Greg Pavlov)
wrote:

It works for me: I've never actually lost
luggage tho I've had it delivered late on
two occasions. My guess is that I have
checked luggage about 300 times.

But you would surely agree that the chances of it getting lost or
being delayed are dramatically bigger when checked compared to lugging
it on-board yourself?


Actually, you're talking about Greg here!

The less time he spends handling the rod, the longer it lasts :-)

Scott

"Greg Pavlov" wrote in message
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How could they make you drink water ?

In the early days of the post 9/11 histeria and witchhunt, there was a well
reported incident where the, ahem, security folks made a young mother drink
her child's breast milk.

When I went to Sun Valley last fall. I printed out all of the below documentation
and carried the TSA's number 1-866-289-9673. I was told by one of their
agents, "If you have a problem carrying it on, just give us a call and we will
talk to the screener".

The below info is from:
http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/e...orial_1188.xml

Fishing Rods / Poles - Fishing Rods are permitted as carry-on and checked
baggage. However, please check with your air carrier to confirm that it fits within
their size limitations for carry-on items. Ultimately, it is the carrier's decision as
to whether or not it can be transported as carry-on baggage.

Tackle Equipment - fishing equipment, including small hooks, should be placed
in your checked baggage. Some tackle equipment can be considered sharp and
dangerous.

Complete listing below:
http://www.tsa.gov/interweb/assetlib...12_18_2003.pdf

-Marshall


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I know there was a sign-off process pre 9/11 on American Airlines, and am
assuming that process still is in affect where sign-offs are required where
the insured baggage exchanges hands (that could be a bad assumption. I'm
sure some of the processes must have changed though. They may not be as
concerned with the chain of custody, as they are with what is in the
baggage. That's a good question for the Airline/s you use. There could
definitely be a drop in service if discount airlines are used. I really
don't use insurance for the money reimbursement aspect, just to ensure
better handling, although Frank's shopping spree story was intriguing.

In the past, when you went to baggage claim, you had to pick up insured
packages from handlers. Not sure that is still in affect but asking the
airline should do it for you..

I'm not really a rod and reel whore...at least not until recently. The most
rods I have taken on a trip were 4 when I went to Alaska, but none of those
were travel rods and that was the source of my first panic driven inquiry
with the airlines as to how to ensure they would not be lost.

The Finn

"Christian Figenschou" wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 16:24:12 -0500, "Mike Makela"
ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote:

F.Y.I. - I usually travel with a large aresenal of rods for a big trip,
and
not all are travel rods. I've had to find the best way to get them there
by
checking them. Shipping them is safer then checking them, but checking
them (w/insurance) is cheaper.

For obvious reasons I always try to make sure I have at least one set
of gear on-board, one rod, one reel, a box of flies + other vital
accessories. But then again, the most rods I've ever brought on a trip
involving air-travel is three (yes, I know I am a pathetic loser..)

The insurance aspect is interesting. However, equally important is
whether it is treated differently by the airline or not. Do you know?
Is there a coverage threshold that triggers special attention? If they
simply take their chances and are prepared to pay some extra $$$ if
they lose it, it doesn't really improve the odds of getting it there
on time. I'm also sure many credit cards would automatically provide
coverage beyond the airlines' standard liability.

They do take nail files away from you, and I would expect them to take
corkscrew and nitting needles too. I've lost two pair of finger nail
clippers with a one inch file attached!! Remember we are not discussing
what is reasonable. We are talking abut a bunch of minimum wage earners who
are now bearuocrats (sp?). What you might think is reasonable, and what we
may agree is not a weapon doesn't count!! We don't have the badge nor the
job.

I have not lost any flies, because I have not tried to carry then in my
carry-on luggage. I can learn by others mistakes.


"Christian Figenschou" wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 06:22:46 -0800, "Sierra fisher"
wrote:

Whether they're on the list or not, large flies for sal****er fishing are
considered possible weapons. I know a lot people who were told to check
them or toss them.

Well, since I have gone through with large sal****er hooks, even had
them inspected twice, let's agree on they _might_ be considered
possible weapons by certain TSA people. By large I mean 3-4 inches
hook length, I see no reason why standard size (4-10) should be
considered any more dangerous as a weapon than permitted items such as
knitting needles, cork screws and nail files.

And never have I had my hooks examined due to seeing them on x-ray,
the search has always been warranted by spotting forceps and scissors.

Do you by any chance jump up and down, yelling "I got hooks.. Big
hooks, I tell ya!"? ;-) Which airports? How many experiences?


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The next time you go through Security with some fishing gear, and they tell
you that you cannot carry it on, are you going to bring up this web page?

Unfortunately, you're going to lose the argument!!



"Marshall Krasser" wrote in message
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When I went to Sun Valley last fall. I printed out all of the below
documentation
and carried the TSA's number 1-866-289-9673. I was told by one of their
agents, "If you have a problem carrying it on, just give us a call and we
will
talk to the screener".

The below info is from:
http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/e...orial_1188.xml

Fishing Rods / Poles - Fishing Rods are permitted as carry-on and checked
baggage. However, please check with your air carrier to confirm that it
fits within
their size limitations for carry-on items. Ultimately, it is the carrier's
decision as
to whether or not it can be transported as carry-on baggage.

Tackle Equipment - fishing equipment, including small hooks, should be
placed
in your checked baggage. Some tackle equipment can be considered sharp and
dangerous.

Complete listing below:

http://www.tsa.gov/interweb/assetlib...12_18_2003.pdf

-Marshall


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"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
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"Greg Pavlov" wrote in message
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How could they make you drink water ?

In the early days of the post 9/11 histeria and witchhunt, there was a
well
reported incident where the, ahem, security folks made a young mother
drink
her child's breast milk.


That should read made a young mother drink breast milk she had saved for her
child.

"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
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The next time you go through Security with some fishing gear, and they
tell
you that you cannot carry it on, are you going to bring up this web page?

Unfortunately, you're going to lose the argument!!


Not if you are professional, firm, and courteous.

Been there done it