Advice Long Island streams

RUMRUN wrote:

The stream is open from 2/1 to 10/15. From 2/1 to 4/1 it is C&R only. The
rest of the time your are allowed to take 2 fish per
day..... .detailed info snipped .....

Tom, many thanks for all the info on what seems a very interesting
fishery. Quite different from what I'm used to out West.

I have a brother in NYC that I visit far too infrequently......... a
plan is taking shape.....

JR

Willi wrote in message ...

As I understand the San Juan, it is stocked down in the open regulations
water and some of the fish make it up into the special regs water.

I think (but may be wrong) that they do _occasionally_ stock directly
into the special regs water...but in any case, they regularly stock
_right_ below it, with the obvious hope that many of the fish move
upstream.

Only
a very short section of the San Juan is C&R only.

Yeah, technically that's true, but I'd bet all of Wolfgang's shiny
nickels that the mortality caused by the heavy C+R fishing far
outweighs the "1 fish over 20in" take that is allowed in that
section.

BTW, for anyone interested, there's a real nice article on the
restoration efforts for the Gila trout in the new _New_Mexico_
_Wildlife_ magazine, published by the Game and Fish Dept. You
can find it in the second row on

http://www.gmfsh.state.nm.us/PageMil...lications.html

It's in PDF, and probably large. I got it with this morning's
newspaper, so I didn't download it. Inside is another article
on fishing the Rio Grande Gorge, I haven't read it yet.

Jon.

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004, Scott Seidman wrote:

It is very heavily stocked, but they do get some monstrous sea-run browns.

Sea-run brown trout on Long Island!!!!! ????

Mu

"David Snedeker" wrote in message ...

acres, and includes primarily the original Obediah Snedecor place of about
2200 acres. Thats a big park for that part of the country. Snedecor's had a

In 1886 the property passed out of family ownership and became the private

Alright, I gotta ask. Is this like me claiming my "family" had a
castle overlooking Loch Ness (grandmother's maiden name is Orcutt),
or do you really know that you are related to ol' Obi?

Jon.

Jonathan Cook wrote:

Yeah, technically that's true, but I'd bet all of Wolfgang's shiny
nickels that the mortality caused by the heavy C+R fishing far
outweighs the "1 fish over 20in" take that is allowed in that
section.

And in all the times I've been to the 'Juan, I've only seen 3 fish taken
with the 1 over 20 rule. Two of them were taken the same day by two
guys who were together, and they weren't even close to 20".

BTW, for anyone interested, there's a real nice article on the
restoration efforts for the Gila trout in the new _New_Mexico_
_Wildlife_ magazine, published by the Game and Fish Dept. You
can find it in the second row on

http://www.gmfsh.state.nm.us/PageMil...lications.html

Thanks for the pointer. I'll read it tonight.

Last summer I stopped in at the National Fish Hatchery in Mora. That
hatchery is devoted to saving the Gila trout. Two of us got a private
tour that lasted close to an hour. If you're ever in the Mora area,
stop in. It's well worth it.

It's in PDF, and probably large. I got it with this morning's
newspaper, so I didn't download it. Inside is another article
on fishing the Rio Grande Gorge, I haven't read it yet.

I'm heading to the Gorge tomorrow :-) For the whole weekend :-))

- Bryan

Jon Cook

Related? Yes, very distant but related. Our common ancester was Gerret Janse
Snedeker .All Snedekers, however spelled,wherever in the country, White,
Black etc, are related because the name was invented by a soldier/mercenary
for the Dutch West India Company.

Obediah Seaman Snedecor, was an 8th generation Snedeker. His father,
Eliphalet (1788-1861), had founded a hunting and fishing lodge at his
"Liff's Tavern" on his Connetquot property. Some say "Liff's ghost" still
haunts the place.

And, yep, I get a mild glow that this incredible NY stream was preserved, in
part by some small forsight by a branch of my clan, as has also happened at
Six Mile Run on the Millstone River in NJ. I hope to make some similar but
modest contribution to the public weal before I pass on.

Dave

Jonathan Cook wrote:

Willi wrote in message ...

As I understand the San Juan, it is stocked down in the open regulations
water and some of the fish make it up into the special regs water.


I think (but may be wrong) that they do _occasionally_ stock directly
into the special regs water...but in any case, they regularly stock
_right_ below it, with the obvious hope that many of the fish move
upstream.


Only
a very short section of the San Juan is C&R only.


Yeah, technically that's true, but I'd bet all of Wolfgang's shiny
nickels that the mortality caused by the heavy C+R fishing far
outweighs the "1 fish over 20in" take that is allowed in that
section.


Definately agree. I don't know if I've ever seen anyone keep a fish in
the 1 fish over 20"'s area. But lots of fish are harvested in the open
waters below.

Don't know why I didn't think of the San Juan before I posted. It is a
unique fishery!




BTW, for anyone interested, there's a real nice article on the
restoration efforts for the Gila trout in the new _New_Mexico_
_Wildlife_ magazine, published by the Game and Fish Dept. You
can find it in the second row on

http://www.gmfsh.state.nm.us/PageMil...lications.html

It's in PDF, and probably large. I got it with this morning's
newspaper, so I didn't download it. Inside is another article
on fishing the Rio Grande Gorge, I haven't read it yet.


Good little magazine. Similar to what Colorado used to put out but
Colorado's has gotten "slick" and it's lost much of its previous charm.


Willi

On 4/16/04 10:21 AM, in article ,
"Willi" wrote:

BTW, for anyone interested, there's a real nice article on the
restoration efforts for the Gila trout in the new _New_Mexico_
_Wildlife_ magazine, published by the Game and Fish Dept. You
can find it in the second row on

http://www.gmfsh.state.nm.us/PageMil...lications.html

It's in PDF, and probably large. I got it with this morning's
newspaper, so I didn't download it. Inside is another article
on fishing the Rio Grande Gorge, I haven't read it yet.


Good little magazine. Similar to what Colorado used to put out but
Colorado's has gotten "slick" and it's lost much of its previous charm.

The article on fishing the Valles Caldera was particularly interesting in
relation to the discussion of the Connetquot, as it too uses a "beat" and
reservation system. Sounds like a lovely fishery! Thanks for posting the
link to the newsletter, Jon.

Bill

Let me know it you come so I can be of some service

Tom Bogdan
Montauk

RUMRUN wrote:

Let me know it you come so I can be of some service

OK, thanks. I'd be flying into and out of NYC with a few days with
family and probably only a day to fish, but if I am able to find the
time, a tip or two on negotiating the Connetequot beat reservation
system would be most welcome. I'll ping you if it happens.

JR