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Old June 17th, 2004, 03:00 AM
Padishar Creel
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I too have trouble with knots, my eyesight is not what it used to be. Wayno
is correct you can get by with one knot, but it is not the improved clinch
knot (you cannot add tippet to your leader with that particular knot, or at
least, I can't).

This may produce a storm of criticism, but if you buy a knot making tool
such as, http://www.ezflyfish.com/tiefknottyer.html you can tie any knot
needed, on the water, by learning one basic knot. You use the same knot to
tie on your fly and to add tippet.to your leader (their are superior knots
for tying a fly to a leader, but his works well for me. Randal Kaufmann
recommends the turtle knot for nymphs and no doubt it is superior, but not
easy to tie, or at least it isn't easy for me to tie with small nymphs.
Also Jason Borger recommends the George Harvey Dry-Fly Knot for dry flies
(hence the name , that I cannot tie if flies were size 2, but it helps
them ride straight up in the water.

In addition I use these http://store.yahoo.com/ezflyfish/corsliploopc.html
so I can easily add/change leaders to my outfit. With all this in place you
will not need any new knots

Chris 'padishar creel' Fanning

Okay, Chris what happens if he looses his loop connector then what?

He then uses his Knot Tyer tool to add a new leader to his fly line, same
knot, just put the fly line in as you would another piece of leader. One
knot does it all....

Okay, dummy what if he lost his knot tying tool, then what genius?

He is up a **** creek, same creek he would be up if he lost any number of
fly fishing gear time including breaking a pole for example. Also, I buy
more than one, in fact I always take two of the damn things and I have
never lost one. I put one on my vest/pack with this item
http://store.yahoo.com/ezflyfish/cfdes2in1ret.html and on the other side I
put my clippers and this whole thing is how a fly fisherperson starts to
accumulate many, many, many tools. G

CF





"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
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"snakefiddler" wrote


this knot tying stuff is not easy. he did show me a neat little
knot tying tool. any recommendations for favorites?


i have fished for trout for the last 34 years, with more than a little
success, knowing how to tie exactly one knot: the improved clinch.

yfitp
wayno




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Old June 17th, 2004, 03:11 AM
Frank Reid
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Chris 'padishar creel' Fanning

Okay, Chris what happens if he looses his loop connector then what?


Okay, what if Chris is schizophrenic and starts talking to himself?

Well, then you use the knot tying tool to tie him to a strong post or tree
until medical help arrives. In the interim, you can sing to him, because
with multiple personalities, you've a captive audience. Invariably, one of
those personalities will be a critic. Smother that one.

--
Frank Reid
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Old June 17th, 2004, 03:40 AM
Wayne Harrison
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"Padishar Creel" wrote

.. Wayno
is correct you can get by with one knot, but it is not the improved clinch
knot (you cannot add tippet to your leader with that particular knot, or

at
least, I can't).


chris: actually, i lied. the tippet to leader knot is two clinches
tied face to face.

try to forgive me.

yfitons
wayno


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Old June 13th, 2004, 12:19 AM
Mike
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Line to leader.......nail knot or leader link
Leader to tippet..... Dbl Surgeons knot
Tippet to tippet.....Dble Surgeon knot
Tippet to fly.....Improved clinch knot
Be sure to wet ALL knots before pulling them tight or you will get curly cues
in your monofilament line......


Handyman Mike
Standing in a river waving a stick

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Old June 13th, 2004, 12:52 AM
snakefiddler
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"Mike" wrote in message
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Line to leader.......nail knot or leader link
Leader to tippet..... Dbl Surgeons knot
Tippet to tippet.....Dble Surgeon knot
Tippet to fly.....Improved clinch knot
Be sure to wet ALL knots before pulling them tight or you will get curly

cues
in your monofilament line......


Handyman Mike
Standing in a river waving a stick


thank you for that *constructive* information. 'preciate it. the fella at
app anglers did tell me to wet my knots before pulling them. he wetted them
with saliva.


snakefiddler


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Old June 13th, 2004, 01:04 AM
riverman
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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
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"Mike" wrote in message
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Line to leader.......nail knot or leader link
Leader to tippet..... Dbl Surgeons knot
Tippet to tippet.....Dble Surgeon knot
Tippet to fly.....Improved clinch knot
Be sure to wet ALL knots before pulling them tight or you will get

curly
cues
in your monofilament line......


Handyman Mike
Standing in a river waving a stick


thank you for that *constructive* information. 'preciate it. the fella

at
app anglers did tell me to wet my knots before pulling them. he wetted

them
with saliva.


You can find out how to tie all these online with a google search. Practice
with a piece of rope, if you have one. Also, don't forget the arbor knot for
connecting the backing to the spool, and the one for connecting the backing
to the line, which I cannot remember the name of.

--riverman
how's THAT for constructive :-)


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Old June 13th, 2004, 08:51 AM
riverman
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"riverman" wrote in message
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You can find out how to tie all these online with a google search.

Practice
with a piece of rope, if you have one. Also, don't forget the arbor knot

for
connecting the backing to the spool, and the one for connecting the

backing
to the line, which I cannot remember the name of.



An Albright Knot. That's it!

Also, instead of the Improved Clinch Knot, which puts a curlyque in your
tippet, try learning the Uni Knot (what some call the Grinner). Its as easy
to tie, tightens up without burning your tippet, and can be left with an
open loop for times you want more action in your fly.

--riverman


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Old June 13th, 2004, 01:07 PM
snakefiddler
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"riverman" wrote in message
...

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...

"Mike" wrote in message
...
Line to leader.......nail knot or leader link
Leader to tippet..... Dbl Surgeons knot
Tippet to tippet.....Dble Surgeon knot
Tippet to fly.....Improved clinch knot
Be sure to wet ALL knots before pulling them tight or you will get

curly
cues
in your monofilament line......


Handyman Mike
Standing in a river waving a stick


thank you for that *constructive* information. 'preciate it. the fella

at
app anglers did tell me to wet my knots before pulling them. he wetted

them
with saliva.


You can find out how to tie all these online with a google search.

Practice
with a piece of rope, if you have one. Also, don't forget the arbor knot

for
connecting the backing to the spool, and the one for connecting the

backing
to the line, which I cannot remember the name of.

--riverman
how's THAT for constructive :-)


quite- thank you ;-)
snake




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Old June 14th, 2004, 04:18 PM
Wolfgang
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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
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...the fella at
app anglers did tell me to wet my knots before pulling them. he

wetted them
with saliva.


Fortunately, it doesn't have to be HIS saliva. Just about any will
work.

Wolfgang


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Old June 13th, 2004, 12:59 AM
riverman
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"Mike" wrote in message
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Line to leader.......nail knot or leader link


What about Perfection Knots here? Loop-to-loop works for me.

Leader to tippet..... Dbl Surgeons knot
Tippet to tippet.....Dble Surgeon knot
Tippet to fly.....Improved clinch knot


I've been converted to the Grinner. It's easier to tie, and tightens up
without curling the tippet.

Be sure to wet ALL knots before pulling them tight or you will get curly

cues
in your monofilament line......


yep.

--riverman


 




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