Why I hate beaked hooks

Look at his line. Rich is probably using 4lb or 6lb test. The small hook is
a tell on this as well. You don't do an eye popping set with that size line.
I landed a 42" muskie on Crow Lake a few years ago that was hooked not much
better. Of course I was using 8lb test on a medium baitcaster fishing for
Lakers on the reefs. Heavier tackle and I am sure I would have horsed the
hook out. Joe Z.

"Lure builder" wrote in message
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my question is what bait was on that small hook and why in the picture is
the
bait missing, sorry that was two questions, i find it also hard to believe
that
the fish was landed with that hookset.

Lure wrote:
my question is what bait was on that small hook and why in the picture is the
bait missing,


Drop shot fishing, nose hooked plastics are often lost when the fish jumps.
Sometimes you catch 8 or 9 fish without losing the plastic. And sometimes you
lose it on the first fish. But almost all of them float right up and are
re-usable if you are of a mind to retrieve them. Just bite off the torn nose of
the bait and re-rig it.

Don't recall which of the various small plastics that fish was caught on. I use
them kind of interchangeably when drop shotting.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing

Anyone who has a hard time beleiving that fish was caught with that hook
don't fish much or don't catch many fish. I wacky rig a lot, and I use 1/0
or 2/0 octopus hooks. They are small hooks, but bigger hooks alter the
fall(action of the lure) IMO, I love the smaller hooks, almost 90% of the
time my fish are going no where on a wacky rig hook, but every now and then
I get one that is skin tagged like the fish in the picture, I have noticed
it happens more when the fish is running towards me prior to the hook set.
That is usually when I miss most fish also



"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Lure wrote:
my question is what bait was on that small hook and why in the picture
is the
bait missing,


Drop shot fishing, nose hooked plastics are often lost when the fish
jumps.
Sometimes you catch 8 or 9 fish without losing the plastic. And sometimes
you
lose it on the first fish. But almost all of them float right up and are
re-usable if you are of a mind to retrieve them. Just bite off the torn
nose of
the bait and re-rig it.

Don't recall which of the various small plastics that fish was caught on.
I use
them kind of interchangeably when drop shotting.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing

Anyone who has a hard time beleiving that fish was caught with that hook
don't fish much or don't catch many fish. I wacky rig a lot, and I use 1/0
or 2/0 octopus hooks. They are small hooks, but bigger hooks alter the
fall(action of the lure) IMO, I love the smaller hooks, almost 90% of the
time my fish are going no where on a wacky rig hook, but every now and then
I get one that is skin tagged like the fish in the picture, I have noticed
it happens more when the fish is running towards me prior to the hook set.
That is usually when I miss most fish also



"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Lure wrote:
my question is what bait was on that small hook and why in the picture
is the
bait missing,


Drop shot fishing, nose hooked plastics are often lost when the fish
jumps.
Sometimes you catch 8 or 9 fish without losing the plastic. And sometimes
you
lose it on the first fish. But almost all of them float right up and are
re-usable if you are of a mind to retrieve them. Just bite off the torn
nose of
the bait and re-rig it.

Don't recall which of the various small plastics that fish was caught on.
I use
them kind of interchangeably when drop shotting.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing

Hey Rich
That is as thin of a hook position as I have seen. You must be living
right to get that bass to the boat. I generally read your posts with great
interest and have learned a bunch.

We differ on circle hooks.
Beaked hooks work great.....I use gammy size 1 and get great results with a
sweep hookset and firm pressure for abut 10 secs to be sure I have a solid
set. The biggest reason I lose bass( I think) is when they tail grab a
nose hooked bait. I also use 15 lb test floro as a leader for my 14 lb test
fireline.

One point we agree on is that the smaller circle hooks can hook a skinny
piece of the basses mouth. That has caused me to move to larger sizes.

I am guessing that the pic was a drop shot bass. I have very little
experience with drop shotting. Do you always use such a small hook?

Steve







"RichZ" wrote in message
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Because too often, they grab the tiniest bite before the beak leads the
point back out of the skin/meat whatever, and you end up with a very
precariously hooked fish.

Of course this photo could also be used to illustrate why I NEVER use
multiple hooksets. No way you know if the first set it something like
this,
in which case the 2nd set is 99% sure to just rip it free.

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/no_beaks_for_me.jpg

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing

my question is what bait was on that small hook and why in the picture is the
bait missing, sorry that was two questions, i find it also hard to believe that
the fish was landed with that hookset.

Look at his line. Rich is probably using 4lb or 6lb test. The small hook is
a tell on this as well. You don't do an eye popping set with that size line.
I landed a 42" muskie on Crow Lake a few years ago that was hooked not much
better. Of course I was using 8lb test on a medium baitcaster fishing for
Lakers on the reefs. Heavier tackle and I am sure I would have horsed the
hook out. Joe Z.

"Lure builder" wrote in message
...
my question is what bait was on that small hook and why in the picture is
the
bait missing, sorry that was two questions, i find it also hard to believe
that
the fish was landed with that hookset.

my question is what bait was on that small hook and why in the picture is the
bait missing, sorry that was two questions, i find it also hard to believe that
the fish was landed with that hookset.

Hey Rich
That is as thin of a hook position as I have seen. You must be living
right to get that bass to the boat. I generally read your posts with great
interest and have learned a bunch.

We differ on circle hooks.
Beaked hooks work great.....I use gammy size 1 and get great results with a
sweep hookset and firm pressure for abut 10 secs to be sure I have a solid
set. The biggest reason I lose bass( I think) is when they tail grab a
nose hooked bait. I also use 15 lb test floro as a leader for my 14 lb test
fireline.

One point we agree on is that the smaller circle hooks can hook a skinny
piece of the basses mouth. That has caused me to move to larger sizes.

I am guessing that the pic was a drop shot bass. I have very little
experience with drop shotting. Do you always use such a small hook?

Steve







"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Because too often, they grab the tiniest bite before the beak leads the
point back out of the skin/meat whatever, and you end up with a very
precariously hooked fish.

Of course this photo could also be used to illustrate why I NEVER use
multiple hooksets. No way you know if the first set it something like
this,
in which case the 2nd set is 99% sure to just rip it free.

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/no_beaks_for_me.jpg

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing