Fishing & Hunting - Commentary

"Rodney" wrote in message
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So high powered bass boats kill many more people than machine guns

You're rolling Rodney, keep at it. I'm making a collection of your dribble,
it's a real laugh riot.

I'm gonna post your top-10 quotes at Christmas time, just to spread some
holiday cheer...

Warren

"Rodney" wrote in message
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So high powered bass boats kill many more people than machine guns

You're rolling Rodney, keep at it. I'm making a collection of your dribble,
it's a real laugh riot.

I'm gonna post your top-10 quotes at Christmas time, just to spread some
holiday cheer...

Warren

I can see it now..

"On the first day of festivus Rodney dribbled out "Bass Boats are worse than
machine guns" and a Partridge in a pear tree LOL
"go-bassn" wrote in message
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"Rodney" wrote in message
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So high powered bass boats kill many more people than machine guns

You're rolling Rodney, keep at it. I'm making a collection of your
dribble,
it's a real laugh riot.

I'm gonna post your top-10 quotes at Christmas time, just to spread some
holiday cheer...

Warren

I can see it now..

"On the first day of festivus Rodney dribbled out "Bass Boats are worse than
machine guns" and a Partridge in a pear tree LOL
"go-bassn" wrote in message
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"Rodney" wrote in message
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So high powered bass boats kill many more people than machine guns

You're rolling Rodney, keep at it. I'm making a collection of your
dribble,
it's a real laugh riot.

I'm gonna post your top-10 quotes at Christmas time, just to spread some
holiday cheer...

Warren

Mine sink like a rock-weiler ;-)

"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
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I could never get my fishing dogs to give the fish back. Once they got one
it was usually torn to shreds, made for lousy pictures, never mind the
overcrowding on the boat when I took the pack out ;-)
"TerryNC" wrote in message
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That's the exact reason I don't have Fishing dogs ;-)

"Craig" wrote in message
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I love fishing and hunting. There is nothing better than being out in
nature, enjoying her beauty and partaking in one of my favorite
activities.
But. . . .

I believe a fisherman takes only what is legal or whatever he and his
family
will eat, whichever is the lesser of the two. I believe this also
holds
true to hunters., and up to this point, I don't think anyone would
disagree
with me.

I just watched a program on hunting and became angry, as I do
sometimes
when
I watch deep sea fishing programs. I hate to see hunters use dogs,
when
the
dogs job is to run down the animal. I DON'T have a problem at all
with
a
using a single dog, such as a retriever, to point out, flush and
retrieve
birds. But I do have a problem when a pack of dogs are used to run
down,
surround, and trap an animal so that the so called hunter can walk up
and
shoot it. Then listen to the guy tell me what a great hunt it was,
when
their dogs did all the hunting. They are no more a hunter than a guy
who
uses dynamite, to catch fish, is a fisherman.

If this individual was using one of these methods as the sole means to
feed
his family, I wouldn't have a problem it. That includes using
dynamite
to
catch fish. A man must do whatever is necessary to feed, cloth,
shelter,
and protect their family. But to call it fishing or hunting is a
joke.
With all our modern camo, scents, callers, gps, etc., do we really
need
to
use dog packs to run down our prey.

Yeah, I'm a moderate democrat - so I also believe a man only needs a
shotgun, a long rifle, a bow, a good knife, and maybe a semi-auto
handgun
to
hunt with and for protection. The weapons I have are for hunting, not
for
taking on an invading army. We have the police and military for that.
But, hey, I think it would be cool to use tranquilizer tarts to hunt
with
so
that you could shoot that big deer, get your photo taken with it and
then
let it go. Catch & release hunting, because for me, it is the hunt
that
is
the fun.

--
Craig Baugher
Be Confident, Focused, but most of all Have FUN!

I think both you and Warren are out of line. You treat Craig's comment with
respect and just because you do not care for Rodney, you slam and ridicule
his opinion. As to his opinion, it is much closer to the founders of this
country than yours. They put the 2nd amendment in the Constitution so
people had the ability to overthrow the government of this country, if
government became dictatorial and out of control. Maybe you ought to go
take a couple ov civics and history courses, as well as take an
introspective look and your own actions.
Bill

"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
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I can see it now..

"On the first day of festivus Rodney dribbled out "Bass Boats are worse
than
machine guns" and a Partridge in a pear tree LOL
"go-bassn" wrote in message
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"Rodney" wrote in message
...
So high powered bass boats kill many more people than machine guns

You're rolling Rodney, keep at it. I'm making a collection of your
dribble,
it's a real laugh riot.

I'm gonna post your top-10 quotes at Christmas time, just to spread some
holiday cheer...

Warren

Lol Bill, I disagree.

Warren

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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I think both you and Warren are out of line. You treat Craig's comment
with
respect and just because you do not care for Rodney, you slam and ridicule
his opinion. As to his opinion, it is much closer to the founders of this
country than yours. They put the 2nd amendment in the Constitution so
people had the ability to overthrow the government of this country, if
government became dictatorial and out of control. Maybe you ought to go
take a couple ov civics and history courses, as well as take an
introspective look and your own actions.
Bill

"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...


I can see it now..

"On the first day of festivus Rodney dribbled out "Bass Boats are worse
than
machine guns" and a Partridge in a pear tree LOL
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
"Rodney" wrote in message
...
So high powered bass boats kill many more people than machine guns

You're rolling Rodney, keep at it. I'm making a collection of your
dribble,
it's a real laugh riot.

I'm gonna post your top-10 quotes at Christmas time, just to spread
some
holiday cheer...

Warren

Steve wrote, "If it weren't for the dogs, few of these hunts would be
possible. Due to
terrain, vegetation cover and the nature of the animal being hunted, without
dogs, success would be almost impossible."

Response: I say without a pack of dogs it would be more challenging and
rewarding. Wouldn't you agree?

Steve wrote, "Feral hogs or wild boars can be taken by spot & stalk or
stand/blind hunting, but the thick forest undergrowth that they lie up in
during the day means that you'd have to virtually kick them in the behinds
in order to find them, and speaking from first hand knowledge, even feral
hogs are not something to toy with. They're fast, mean, nasty and tasty
critters, but again, dogs make the hunts possible. People don't like the
idea of baiting for black bears, but again, the habitat that they prefer in
this part of the country eliminates the possibility of spot & stalk. So, if
baiting is "bad", how is a person to hunt black bears when seeing 50 yards
is a long distance? Big cats out west cover so much territory and are so
secretive that unless you have the same luck as a lottery winner, forget
hunting them unless you're willing to follow a pack of enthusiastic hounds."

Response: I say again, without a pack of dogs it would be more challenging
and rewarding.

Craig Originally wrote: "If this individual was using one of these methods
as the sole means to feed his family, I wouldn't have a problem it. That
includes using dynamite to catch fish."

Steve's response, "So, hunting to eat is all right, but hunting for sport,
recreation,
challenge, trophy and memories is wrong?

Response: I would have to agree with that statement. I do think killing an
animal for sport, recreation, or just for the challenge, trophy, or memories
is wrong. If you are NOT going to eat the animal and use it's skin, than it
is just a waste of life. Now you can enjoy the sport, challenge, trophy,
and memories of the animal you killed for food.

Steve's wrote, "You advocate game law violations because the fish are going
to be eaten? In these days of "social programs",there's no reason what so
ever for someone to violate game laws to feed a family. If someone has the
means to fish/hunt and to purchase fishing tackle/hunting equipment, that
means that they have some money and are
physically able to hold down a job."

Response: You're right, with all the social programs available today, an
individual wouldn't need to kill an animal out of season or by using an
unlawful means. So no I'm not advocating it, nor condoning it.

Craig originally wrote: "A man must do whatever is necessary to feed, cloth,
shelter,
and protect their family."

Steve's response: "Based on that theory, liquor store robbery is ok?"

Response: I think we addressed that above, but no, any unlawful activity is
wrong.

Craig Originally wrote, "I also believe a man only needs a shotgun, a long
rifle, a bow, a good knife, and maybe a semi-auto handgun to hunt with and
for protection."

Steve's response: "Why so many weapons? Why not just limit it to a single
shotgun? You can hunt virtually everything on the North American continent
from game birds,
to squirrels, to deer, bears and moose with a single shotgun, a selection of
choke tubes, some bird shot and slugs. Plus, a shotgun is a great personal
defense weapon. Does this mean that because I have four different shotguns
(and still want
two more), three different rifles (and have seen a myriad of different
rifles that I could find a use for), two bows, two pistols, a muzzleloader
and more knives than you can shake a stick at, I'm some kind of whacko and
I'm wrong in your eyes?"

Response: You're right again, a shotgun is a mighty fine general purpose
weapon, and no I don't think you're a nut. Now if you told me you had
barrels of ammo, gas masks, a 50-cal., etc., I might wonder. I do know an
individual like this and he scares the hell out of me!!! The man is set for
war.

--
Craig Baugher
Be Confident, Focused, but most of all Have FUN!

Steve wrote, "If it weren't for the dogs, few of these hunts would be
possible. Due to
terrain, vegetation cover and the nature of the animal being hunted, without
dogs, success would be almost impossible."

Response: I say without a pack of dogs it would be more challenging and
rewarding. Wouldn't you agree?

Steve wrote, "Feral hogs or wild boars can be taken by spot & stalk or
stand/blind hunting, but the thick forest undergrowth that they lie up in
during the day means that you'd have to virtually kick them in the behinds
in order to find them, and speaking from first hand knowledge, even feral
hogs are not something to toy with. They're fast, mean, nasty and tasty
critters, but again, dogs make the hunts possible. People don't like the
idea of baiting for black bears, but again, the habitat that they prefer in
this part of the country eliminates the possibility of spot & stalk. So, if
baiting is "bad", how is a person to hunt black bears when seeing 50 yards
is a long distance? Big cats out west cover so much territory and are so
secretive that unless you have the same luck as a lottery winner, forget
hunting them unless you're willing to follow a pack of enthusiastic hounds."

Response: I say again, without a pack of dogs it would be more challenging
and rewarding.

Craig Originally wrote: "If this individual was using one of these methods
as the sole means to feed his family, I wouldn't have a problem it. That
includes using dynamite to catch fish."

Steve's response, "So, hunting to eat is all right, but hunting for sport,
recreation,
challenge, trophy and memories is wrong?

Response: I would have to agree with that statement. I do think killing an
animal for sport, recreation, or just for the challenge, trophy, or memories
is wrong. If you are NOT going to eat the animal and use it's skin, than it
is just a waste of life. Now you can enjoy the sport, challenge, trophy,
and memories of the animal you killed for food.

Steve's wrote, "You advocate game law violations because the fish are going
to be eaten? In these days of "social programs",there's no reason what so
ever for someone to violate game laws to feed a family. If someone has the
means to fish/hunt and to purchase fishing tackle/hunting equipment, that
means that they have some money and are
physically able to hold down a job."

Response: You're right, with all the social programs available today, an
individual wouldn't need to kill an animal out of season or by using an
unlawful means. So no I'm not advocating it, nor condoning it.

Craig originally wrote: "A man must do whatever is necessary to feed, cloth,
shelter,
and protect their family."

Steve's response: "Based on that theory, liquor store robbery is ok?"

Response: I think we addressed that above, but no, any unlawful activity is
wrong.

Craig Originally wrote, "I also believe a man only needs a shotgun, a long
rifle, a bow, a good knife, and maybe a semi-auto handgun to hunt with and
for protection."

Steve's response: "Why so many weapons? Why not just limit it to a single
shotgun? You can hunt virtually everything on the North American continent
from game birds,
to squirrels, to deer, bears and moose with a single shotgun, a selection of
choke tubes, some bird shot and slugs. Plus, a shotgun is a great personal
defense weapon. Does this mean that because I have four different shotguns
(and still want
two more), three different rifles (and have seen a myriad of different
rifles that I could find a use for), two bows, two pistols, a muzzleloader
and more knives than you can shake a stick at, I'm some kind of whacko and
I'm wrong in your eyes?"

Response: You're right again, a shotgun is a mighty fine general purpose
weapon, and no I don't think you're a nut. Now if you told me you had
barrels of ammo, gas masks, a 50-cal., etc., I might wonder. I do know an
individual like this and he scares the hell out of me!!! The man is set for
war.

--
Craig Baugher
Be Confident, Focused, but most of all Have FUN!

snipAs to his opinion, it is much closer to the founders of this
country than yours. "----Which opinion of mine? I'd like to know



snipThey put the 2nd amendment in the Constitution so
people had the ability to overthrow the government of this country, if
government became dictatorial and out of control. Maybe you ought to go
take a couple ov civics and history courses, as well as take an
introspective look and your own actions.


An introspective look at my own actions? What actions might they be Bill?
And who are you to assume I have not taken civics or history courses?


Ahh the hell with it I'm going fishing. If I offended you or Rodney I
apologize. I forgot, this is not a place for a sense of humor. I'll save
that for The NWC. Hope to see you both there so we can just fish.


Best Regards,