Casting Disaster

"Doug Kanter" wrote in
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I don't know if it's still the case, but it used to be the rule that
you can't even carry a long gun which WOULD be used for hunting a
species that's out of season. This didn't apply to carrying a
rifle/shotgun to the range, but to areas normally used for hunting.

Just during deer season, and .22 rimfire is still OK

"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in
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I don't know if it's still the case, but it used to be the rule that
you can't even carry a long gun which WOULD be used for hunting a
species that's out of season. This didn't apply to carrying a
rifle/shotgun to the range, but to areas normally used for hunting.

Just during deer season, and .22 rimfire is still OK

You mean, you can't carry a rifle in areas where only shotgun is allowed? I
thought it said NO long gun was allowed when NOTHING was in season. So, in
other words, you could not carry a rifle into the Adirondacks for bear
protection, unless bear happened to be in season.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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You mean, you can't carry a rifle in areas where only shotgun is
allowed? I
thought it said NO long gun was allowed when NOTHING was in season.
So, in
other words, you could not carry a rifle into the Adirondacks for
bear
protection, unless bear happened to be in season.

Your undeniable prowess and courage notwithstanding, the bears have
generally gotten along quite nicely without your protection for
millennia and will doubtless continue to manage......somehow.

Wolfgang
still, one has to appreciate the greatness of the heart that prompted
the offer.

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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You mean, you can't carry a rifle in areas where only shotgun is
allowed? I
thought it said NO long gun was allowed when NOTHING was in season.
So, in
other words, you could not carry a rifle into the Adirondacks for
bear
protection, unless bear happened to be in season.

Your undeniable prowess and courage notwithstanding, the bears have
generally gotten along quite nicely without your protection for
millennia and will doubtless continue to manage......somehow.

Wolfgang
still, one has to appreciate the greatness of the heart that prompted
the offer.



Someone call the casting department, please. The wrong boy was given the
role of queen.

lid wrote:

OTOH, I've never heard of anyone getting even a warning for protecting
their property by means of water, mild electrical, visual, or scent
effects. I'm not sure about high power water cannons, but hoses and
sprinklers are okay.

How about bottle rockets? That's what people use to keep elk away from
their paddocks around here.

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On 12 May 2004 19:51:40 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:


You could be tossing water balloons at deer in NY, and it would still be
hunting. Shooting a BB at deer asses definately qualifies.


In MN the 'hunting' aspect wouldn't need to enter in. It would come
under harassing wildlife, which is may or may not be a big no-no,
depending on where and how you do it, who reports you, and who writes
(or chooses to warn instead) the ticket.

OTOH, I've never heard of anyone getting even a warning for protecting
their property by means of water, mild electrical, visual, or scent
effects. I'm not sure about high power water cannons, but hoses and
sprinklers are okay.
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Often taunted by trout.
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in
:

I don't know if it's still the case, but it used to be the rule
that you can't even carry a long gun which WOULD be used for
hunting a species that's out of season. This didn't apply to
carrying a rifle/shotgun to the range, but to areas normally used
for hunting.

Just during deer season, and .22 rimfire is still OK

You mean, you can't carry a rifle in areas where only shotgun is
allowed? I thought it said NO long gun was allowed when NOTHING was in
season. So, in other words, you could not carry a rifle into the
Adirondacks for bear protection, unless bear happened to be in season.




From the Regs:

"During the open season for deer, it is illegal to:

possess shotgun shells loaded with slug or ball, unless holding a valid
license or permit to take deer or bear, or
possess a rifle larger than a .22 rimfire (muzzleloading rifles excepted)
in areas where rifles are banned for taking deer.
In Westchester County and on Long Island it is illegal to use any rifle
for hunting, or to carry one afield.

In the Northern Zone it is illegal to carry a rifle larger than .22
rimfire or a shotgun loaded with slug, ball or buckshot afield if
accompanied by a dog, except when coyote hunting under permit from the
local Environmental Conservation Officer.

Generally, nonresidents may not possess a pistol in New York State. "



That's all I see.

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On 12 May 2004 19:51:40 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:


You could be tossing water balloons at deer in NY, and it would still be
hunting. Shooting a BB at deer asses definately qualifies.


In MN the 'hunting' aspect wouldn't need to enter in. It would come
under harassing wildlife, which is may or may not be a big no-no,
depending on where and how you do it, who reports you, and who writes
(or chooses to warn instead) the ticket.

OTOH, I've never heard of anyone getting even a warning for protecting
their property by means of water, mild electrical, visual, or scent
effects. I'm not sure about high power water cannons, but hoses and
sprinklers are okay.

Don't really know the particulars here in Wisconsin, but I suspect we also
have some shades of gray. Milwaukee county has a justly famous park system,
built to a large extent around green belts along several rivers and streams.
One unintended (I assume) result is that deer are likely to show up
virtually anywhere. And there are a LOT of them. I don't know if anything
ever came of it, but a few years ago there was talk of hiring professional
sharpshooters to thin the herd. Regardless of the letter of the law, I
suspect that a cop's or warden's reaction to someone popping a deer in the
ass with a BB gun when caught molesting the roses would be highly variable,
depending on the neighborhood, recent unpleasantness, individual mood, etc.
For example, an Elm Grove resident (read, VERY white, well connected, and
almost certainly a contributor to any number of benevolent organizations)
upholding the virtue of the hostas would likely receive something less than
a stern informal request to knock it off. On the other hand, a sixteen year
old black male near what used to be Northridge Mall (or Capitol Court, or
Mayfair, or Southridge, or Bayshore......or anywhere in Elm Grove or
Wauwatosa or southeastern Wisconsin, or.....well, you get the picture) would
probably go to jail......um.....well, pieces of him, anyway. Oddly, busting
bunnies with a blowgun (I've heard that sort of thing actually
happens......right here in Milwaukee!) and for precisely the same offense,
is likely to provoke a stronger reaction regardless of mitigating
circumstances. Go figure.

Anyway, even the scarily (if not quite omni) potent DNR is not likely to get
too worked up (the cops are another matter entirely) about it unless they
view it as a game violation.....that is to say, poaching. And even they (I
think) are not quite fascistic enough to believe that BB gun + deer +
petunias + urban setting necessarily = poaching. But, if they DO, then God
help you cuz they WILL go medieval on your sorry ass.

Wolfgang
um.....live trapping bunnies is o.k.......i think.....poisoning....well,
nobody really cares.....crushing their heads with a paving
brick?....mmmmm.....do it quietly....but do NOT go the blowgun route!

"Carl Nisarel" wrote in message
s.com...

One cannot fashion a credible deterrent out of an incredible
action. - Robert S. McNamara

Hm........

Three scowling lummoxen, cudgels rampant, approach rapidly (in single file)
shrieking fowl oaths interspersed with what can only be interpreted as
threats of physical violence. You cut the legs off the first one with an
eighteen inch Homelite® chainsaw..........

Wolfgang

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"Carl Nisarel" wrote in message
s.com...

One cannot fashion a credible deterrent out of an incredible
action. - Robert S. McNamara

Hm........

Three scowling lummoxen, cudgels rampant, approach rapidly (in single
file)
shrieking fowl oaths interspersed with what can only be interpreted as
threats of physical violence. You cut the legs off the first one with an
eighteen inch Homelite® chainsaw..........

Wolfgang

p.s. The trouble with stock sig lines is not so much that they are stupid
as........um......well.....yeah, actually, that IS the trouble with them.

Wolfgang