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"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote in
:


"rw" wrote in message
nk.net...
Ken Fortenberry wrote:

All this for $250 ? I hate gettin' screwed as much as the next
guy but holy ****, just reading about this on roff has taken up
at least $250 of my time. ;-)


It's the principle. :-)

I can't recall Mike every having come to ROFF for anything but fly
fishin' info and discussion in the past, so if the man says it will
cost him a buck and he wants to beat it on principle, I'll do all I
can to help.


Read back, Op. That's not what the man said. He said that every dollar
was dear right now.

Scott

On 12/29/04 7:57 PM, in article ,
"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote:


"Mike Makela" ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote in message
...
Yeah didn't see them there. I only see listings for Businesses located in
Wyoming,
maybe we wouldn't see them on this list if they are out of state, or they
don't
license to out of state agencies and are listed with a different name (as you
alluded to).

Mike

If you have any other names for them, try this site:
http://www.thomasregister.com

I tried PURCO, but got no results. You have to register, but it don't cost a
thing
and I believe the are the largest database for companies and their
backgrounds.

Well, Thomas Register might be the largest *free* database, but there are
certainly larger. The ones we have are subscription based. I've always
turned to Thomas (and in days of yore, they were "those huge green volumes
over there") for information about manufacturing companies, rather than
service companies, although their web site says that they include service
companies.


Also, if you find them, I believe that Thomas Register give all the pertinent
info
about the CEO, President, Board of Dir. and what not. Will likely tell ya
which
states they are licensed to do business.

And if that is what you are looking for, and Thomas doesn't help you, get
yourself to the nearest research library that has a business collection, and
they should be able to help you out. Off the top of my head, I'm not sure
where one would look to find in which states companies are licensed to do
business.

Bill

On 12/29/04 7:57 PM, in article ,
"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote:


"Mike Makela" ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote in message
...
Yeah didn't see them there. I only see listings for Businesses located in
Wyoming,
maybe we wouldn't see them on this list if they are out of state, or they
don't
license to out of state agencies and are listed with a different name (as you
alluded to).

Mike

If you have any other names for them, try this site:
http://www.thomasregister.com

I tried PURCO, but got no results. You have to register, but it don't cost a
thing
and I believe the are the largest database for companies and their
backgrounds.

Well, Thomas Register might be the largest *free* database, but there are
certainly larger. The ones we have are subscription based. I've always
turned to Thomas (and in days of yore, they were "those huge green volumes
over there") for information about manufacturing companies, rather than
service companies, although their web site says that they include service
companies.


Also, if you find them, I believe that Thomas Register give all the pertinent
info
about the CEO, President, Board of Dir. and what not. Will likely tell ya
which
states they are licensed to do business.

And if that is what you are looking for, and Thomas doesn't help you, get
yourself to the nearest research library that has a business collection, and
they should be able to help you out. Off the top of my head, I'm not sure
where one would look to find in which states companies are licensed to do
business.

Bill

William Claspy wrote:
On 12/29/04 7:57 PM, in article ,
"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote:


"Mike Makela" ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote in message
...
Yeah didn't see them there. I only see listings for Businesses
located in Wyoming,
maybe we wouldn't see them on this list if they are out of state,
or they don't
license to out of state agencies and are listed with a different
name (as you alluded to).

Mike

If you have any other names for them, try this site:
http://www.thomasregister.com

I tried PURCO, but got no results. You have to register, but it
don't cost a thing
and I believe the are the largest database for companies and their
backgrounds.

Well, Thomas Register might be the largest *free* database, but there
are certainly larger. The ones we have are subscription based. I've
always turned to Thomas (and in days of yore, they were "those huge
green volumes over there") for information about manufacturing
companies, rather than service companies, although their web site
says that they include service companies.


Also, if you find them, I believe that Thomas Register give all the
pertinent info
about the CEO, President, Board of Dir. and what not. Will likely
tell ya which
states they are licensed to do business.

And if that is what you are looking for, and Thomas doesn't help you,
get yourself to the nearest research library that has a business
collection, and they should be able to help you out. Off the top of
my head, I'm not sure where one would look to find in which states
companies are licensed to do business.

As much as I hate libraries ( ;-) ) I found their information regarding
businesses is second to none. As Bill mentions, though, if you really
want to research a company, you have to get to the right library. At one
time I was considering a move to Arizona and wanted info on companies in
that area, but I had to travel about 100 miles to a big-city library to
get all the info I needed. Once I found the right place, there was
*oodles* of information. It's also worth mentioning that as much as I
hate librarians BSEG, they can *really* help you with the research
tools.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 05:20:33 -0600, wrote:

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 00:28:19 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:



All this for $250 ? I hate gettin' screwed as much as the next
guy but holy ****, just reading about this on roff has taken up
at least $250 of my time. ;-)

Geez...100-plus friggin' hours to read this? Maybe Sylvan can help...or
Evelyn Wood...

He only gets a chance to read when there aren't any cars at the drive up
window.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com/ - photo galleries
http://www.chocphoto.com/roff

"Mike Makela" ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote in
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"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote in message
...

"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote in message
...

"Mike Makela" ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote in message
...
I've got a ton of questions after reading through that document,
but I don't want to wear out your generosity, so I'm doing some
research on Google and such. If I may, just one question: Any idea
what government office would I start with to check if Purco has a
permit for collection services in Wyoming? Department of Finance
in Wyoming? I'm surfing around but have yet to find the
appropriate starting point.

Mike

I would try their state's attorney generals office.

Mark

They weren't on this list, at least not as Purco. However, you may
want to look at it more closely.

http://audit.state.wy.us/banking/cab/cablicensees.htm

Mark

Yeah didn't see them there. I only see listings for Businesses
located in Wyoming, maybe we wouldn't see them on this list if they
are out of state, or they don't license to out of state agencies and
are listed with a different name (as you alluded to).

Mike



Mike-

If it turns out that they're not allowed to do what they are doing, how
do you think this will fix your problem? You'll need to take them to
court to get them to stop.

Scott

"Mike Makela" ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote in
:


"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote in message
...

"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote in message
...

"Mike Makela" ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote in message
...
I've got a ton of questions after reading through that document,
but I don't want to wear out your generosity, so I'm doing some
research on Google and such. If I may, just one question: Any idea
what government office would I start with to check if Purco has a
permit for collection services in Wyoming? Department of Finance
in Wyoming? I'm surfing around but have yet to find the
appropriate starting point.

Mike

I would try their state's attorney generals office.

Mark

They weren't on this list, at least not as Purco. However, you may
want to look at it more closely.

http://audit.state.wy.us/banking/cab/cablicensees.htm

Mark

Yeah didn't see them there. I only see listings for Businesses
located in Wyoming, maybe we wouldn't see them on this list if they
are out of state, or they don't license to out of state agencies and
are listed with a different name (as you alluded to).

Mike



Mike-

If it turns out that they're not allowed to do what they are doing, how
do you think this will fix your problem? You'll need to take them to
court to get them to stop.

Scott

Charlie Choc wrote:
wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
All this for $250 ? I hate gettin' screwed as much as the next
guy but holy ****, just reading about this on roff has taken up
at least $250 of my time. ;-)

Geez...100-plus friggin' hours to read this? Maybe Sylvan can help...or
Evelyn Wood...

He only gets a chance to read when there aren't any cars at the drive up
window.

**** you, Choc. You too, Dickie.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Charlie Choc wrote:
wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
All this for $250 ? I hate gettin' screwed as much as the next
guy but holy ****, just reading about this on roff has taken up
at least $250 of my time. ;-)

Geez...100-plus friggin' hours to read this? Maybe Sylvan can help...or
Evelyn Wood...

He only gets a chance to read when there aren't any cars at the drive up
window.

**** you, Choc. You too, Dickie.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:05:46 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Charlie Choc wrote:
wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
All this for $250 ? I hate gettin' screwed as much as the next
guy but holy ****, just reading about this on roff has taken up
at least $250 of my time. ;-)

Geez...100-plus friggin' hours to read this? Maybe Sylvan can help...or
Evelyn Wood...

He only gets a chance to read when there aren't any cars at the drive up
window.

**** you, Choc. You too, Dickie.

You forgot to ask if we wanted fries. Your employee of the month dream
continues to elude you.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com/ - photo galleries
http://www.chocphoto.com/roff