bootfoot wader question

I always thought it was funny that, here in the West anyway, many
waders get as far from shore as they can and can and cast out into the
river til hell wouldn't have it. And the floaters in the river hammer
the shore where the waders would be standing. I think it;s a case of
the grass being greener elsewhere.

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 22:55:07 +0100, "riverman"
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"rw" wrote in message
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Eric wrote:
Hi..

I don't understand how you get 2 yards casting distance for every yard
you walk out from shore.

More room for the backcast?



Yep. You gain a yard of distance because you are a yard deeper. And you get
another yard of line out because you're a yard further from the trees. So
your casts reach 2 yards farther out for every yard deeper you wade.

--riverman

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 22:55:07 +0100, "riverman" wrote:


"rw" wrote in message
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Eric wrote:
Hi..

I don't understand how you get 2 yards casting distance for every yard
you walk out from shore.

More room for the backcast?



Yep. You gain a yard of distance because you are a yard deeper. And you get
another yard of line out because you're a yard further from the trees. So
your casts reach 2 yards farther out for every yard deeper you wade.

Hmmm...."I don't think so, Tim"

That extra yard of backcast is the same yard when it's in front of you...

/daytripper (sorry ;-)

"riverman" wrote in message
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Yep. You gain a yard of distance because you are a yard deeper. And you
get another yard of line out because you're a yard further from the trees.
So your casts reach 2 yards farther out for every yard deeper you wade.

It may help a mediocre caster in a few situations but that is not
neccessarily true. The length of the total cast is not dependent upon the
length of one's backcast.

"daytripper" wrote in message
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On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 22:55:07 +0100, "riverman" wrote:


"rw" wrote in message
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Eric wrote:
Hi..

I don't understand how you get 2 yards casting distance for every yard
you walk out from shore.

More room for the backcast?



Yep. You gain a yard of distance because you are a yard deeper. And you
get
another yard of line out because you're a yard further from the trees. So
your casts reach 2 yards farther out for every yard deeper you wade.

Hmmm...."I don't think so, Tim"

That extra yard of backcast is the same yard when it's in front of you...

/daytripper (sorry ;-)


That's correct. And you are delivering that extra yard of backcast from a
position further out in the river.
Look at it this way. If there are trees right against the bank, you have to
be standing 5 yards from shore to reach 10 yards into the river. If you step
another yard further out, you are 6 yards out, and you can reach 12 yards
from shore. 1 yard further out = 2 yards gain.

--riverman (sorry :-)

"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
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"riverman" wrote in message
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Yep. You gain a yard of distance because you are a yard deeper. And you
get another yard of line out because you're a yard further from the
trees. So your casts reach 2 yards farther out for every yard deeper you
wade.

It may help a mediocre caster in a few situations but that is not
neccessarily true. The length of the total cast is not dependent upon the
length of one's backcast.



Thats true, but having a good clear backcast doesn't hurt. Anyway, at the
time I was a medicre caster, and changing from mudboots to hip waders did
enable me to cover water that was more than a foot deep. It didn't help me
catch any more fish, bit at least I could spook more.

--riverman

Please don't step on the fish.

Big Dale

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 22:53:57 -0500, daytripper
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On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 22:55:07 +0100, "riverman" wrote:


"rw" wrote in message
. com...
Eric wrote:
Hi..

I don't understand how you get 2 yards casting distance for every yard
you walk out from shore.

More room for the backcast?



Yep. You gain a yard of distance because you are a yard deeper. And you get
another yard of line out because you're a yard further from the trees. So
your casts reach 2 yards farther out for every yard deeper you wade.

Hmmm...."I don't think so, Tim"

That extra yard of backcast is the same yard when it's in front of you...

Myron measures casting distance as distance from shore. If you are 80' from
shore you can make 90' casts with a 9' rod and only 1' of line. g
--
Charlie...
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"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
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On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 22:53:57 -0500, daytripper

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On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 22:55:07 +0100, "riverman" wrote:


"rw" wrote in message
.com...
Eric wrote:
Hi..

I don't understand how you get 2 yards casting distance for every yard
you walk out from shore.

More room for the backcast?



Yep. You gain a yard of distance because you are a yard deeper. And you
get
another yard of line out because you're a yard further from the trees. So
your casts reach 2 yards farther out for every yard deeper you wade.

Hmmm...."I don't think so, Tim"

That extra yard of backcast is the same yard when it's in front of you...

Myron measures casting distance as distance from shore. If you are 80'
from
shore you can make 90' casts with a 9' rod and only 1' of line. g
--

Yuk yuk and no I don't. Here is the original statement:
"Then I realized that, for every yard I could walk deeper into the water, it
increased my casting distance 2 yards out into the deeps."

So tell me, Mr Whitman, how you would have phrased it?

--riverman

"riverman" wrote in message
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"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
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On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 22:53:57 -0500, daytripper

wrote:

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 22:55:07 +0100, "riverman" wrote:


"rw" wrote in message
g.com...
Eric wrote:
Hi..

I don't understand how you get 2 yards casting distance for every
yard
you walk out from shore.

More room for the backcast?



Yep. You gain a yard of distance because you are a yard deeper. And you
get
another yard of line out because you're a yard further from the trees.
So
your casts reach 2 yards farther out for every yard deeper you wade.

Hmmm...."I don't think so, Tim"

That extra yard of backcast is the same yard when it's in front of you...

Myron measures casting distance as distance from shore. If you are 80'
from
shore you can make 90' casts with a 9' rod and only 1' of line. g
--

Yuk yuk and no I don't. Here is the original statement:
"Then I realized that, for every yard I could walk deeper into the water,
it increased my casting distance 2 yards out into the deeps."


Perhaps the phrase I should have used was 'casting reach'?

--riverman

"riverman" wrote in message
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SNIP
Yuk yuk and no I don't. Here is the original statement:
"Then I realized that, for every yard I could walk deeper into the water,
it
increased my casting distance 2 yards out into the deeps."

So tell me, Mr Whitman, how you would have phrased it?

--riverman




Not exactly Mr.Whitman, but...........

When you wade out to where you can cast,
you may find that your boots are stuck fast,
or worse still, quite grim,
you are over the brim,
and dry feet are a thing of the past!

To cast a very long line, you will see,
wherever you happen to be,
to avoid the hibiscus
walk on the meniscus!
But we still wont believe you´re J.C.!

Laurels too can be quite a bad pain,
your roll casting you must then train,
of snags you´ll be free,
even in old NC,
and this saves quite remarkable strain!

There are some who have mastered the art,
even though now classed as "old fart"
from the trees you´ll be freed,
just do a "half-reid",
This is not the end, it´s a start!

Now where there´s a will there´s a way,
and some may advise you to Spey,
no need for rancour,
just set a good anchor,
and your fly will be well on its way!

When your target is at ninety feet,
there is no recourse in deceit,
if you stay on the bank,
you just have to rank,
up with those who can manage the feat!

You may heave and haul and lose sweat,
you may curse and bluster, and fret,
but to cast from the banks,
will bring you no thanks
to reach ninety you´ll have to get wet!

TL
MC