The hopper myth?

"Tim Lysyk" wrote

use is called the Flat Creek Hopper, and is from the same book. It floats
like a cork, and the trout will really hammer it. I used it on a


wow, more memories ... I spent a couple summers training dogs on clients
private property and the south section of the Elk preserve in Jackson. As
I remember Flat Creek opens really late in the season, but is a 'stalkers'
dream come true.

I'll google the pattern

Jack Dennis once told me how to 'sneak onto' a spring creek along the Snake,
near my clients property and told me that at worse the owner would just
chase me off, probably even let me stay and fish, but not to bother asking
permission as it was never granted in advance (apparently the owner was well
known as eccentric in Jackson ) .... I was too chicken **** ( oh, let's
change that to ethical :-) to ever do it though

wrote in message
ups.com...
The Bechler hot springs is at the extreme north end
of the meadow, right where the trail starts to head
up the mountain toward Lewis Lake.

It's big enough to actualy swim in.
It's almost 11 miles from the Ranger Station.
My dad and I were soaking in there once, when
a bare breasted amazon like pony-tailed hippy-woman hiker
arrived, coming down off the mountain
from the Lewis lake side. She didn't bat an eye. She just dropped
her backpack and jumped in there with us.


One of the things I miss most since leaving Montana (MSLA), is being able to
hop in the truck, and be soaking in a wild Idaho hot springs in about an
hour or so.

If it was a quick trip to Jerry Johnson's, you usually end up meeting
people from all of the globe.

Can't remember any time I was there, where anyone brought swim suits.

Skwala - whose nude hot spring soaks are behind him, and that's probably a
good thing.

"Skwala" wrote


nude hot spring soaks are behind him, and that's probably a good thing.


Holy crap ... if I tried to climb in, nude, with others I'd be arrested as a
terrorist ... it would be terrifying too ..shudder

"Wolfgang" wrote ...

"Daniel-San" wrote ...

...The Black Earth in Wolfgang's Curdistan has a very weedy shoreline
that teems with hoppers once the heat gets going....

The Black Earth is not mine......nor is all of Curdistan, for that matter.
We just sort of......um....."cohabitate." C'mon up sometime and I'll show
you mine.


Just wanted to guve you the credit for the term. One of the better nicknames
for a state I've heard.

I'm planning on heading up to the BEC sometime next week -- most likely
Wednesday if the weather looks reasonable. Trying to deal with my fishing
habit while I should be packing the house up for the move is a difficult
dance. A little fishing is allowed, so long as a lot of packing has taken
place...

Dan

Larry, the one I use looks like this:

http://troutangler.com/imagesprod/flies/fly%20058.gif


Except there is much less tuft below the parachute ( and it's a kind of
brown reddish - it's also much finer). Also, it's much longer with a
bright yellow body that is a good bit skinnier than the fly pictured.
The parachute is smaller too. The legs and back wings are pretty much
spot on though. The size I use is around 6-10.

When looking at the fly, one would think it wouldn't catch any fish at
all. But I have fished it for a few seaons along side dave's hoppers
and numerous other hoppers, and it easily outfishes them from my
experience. It's especially good at getting bigger fish off the bottom.

"Tim Lysyk" wrote
use is called the Flat Creek Hopper, and is from the same book. It floats
like a cork, and the trout will really hammer it. I used it on a float
trip down the Oldman River once. I would float it along the bank, and the
rainbows would just slam it.



I googled the p0attern and found a picture

I was also inspired to find my fly box and add this to my website ... the
pattern shown was the result of "what I have to work with" more than real
design ... pheasant would make nicer legs, Ken's turkey a better wing ...
but now I'll be motivated to get the ugly pattern off my site G and work
until I find a hopper I can love G

http://www.kimshew.com/flyfish/displ...?pattern_id=10

"Jimbo" wrote

When looking at the fly, one would think it wouldn't catch any fish at
all. But I have fished it for a few seaons along side dave's hoppers
and numerous other hoppers, and it easily outfishes them from my
experience. It's especially good at getting bigger fish off the bottom.


Thank you, Jimbo, I like the look of it ... I'll make a point this season of
giving hoppers more chances to prove themselves to me.

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 00:16:45 GMT, "Larry" wrote:


"Charlie Choc" wrote

One place I tried
the usual suspects (Adams, stimulators, humpy's, PMD's, etc) with no luck
and
then switched to a foam hopper like I had used on the Yellowstone and
caught 8
or 9 browns in about 30 minutes.


that qualifies as proof in my book G

FWIW, the pattern I was using was this one:
http://shop.flyfishing.about.com/fly...etails/328.htm

They're easy to tie and don't seem to get torn up as fast as ones tied with
natural materials.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com

Also, I have found only one place that makes this exact fly(or has it
made for them )- it's a gas station/sporting goods store near the Crazy
Mountains north of the park. So far no luck at any online fly shop or
service. The big guys like Blue Ribbon Flies and Dan Bailey's haven't
heard of them.

"Charlie Choc" wrote

FWIW, the pattern I was using was this one:
http://shop.flyfishing.about.com/fly...etails/328.htm

They're easy to tie and don't seem to get torn up as fast as ones tied
with
natural materials.
--


cool, thanks ... I don't like the looks of most foam hoppers but this one is
pretty neat ( several meanings implied )