Fly fishing from a canoe?

I would probably get a 9' #5 or #6 line rod. Go to the larger 6 weight rod
if you are thinking more of black bass and trout.

One of the secrets of fly casting from a canoe is to not use your body while
cating.

Be sure to keep a life vest on at all time sin a canoe.

See if you can find someone here on this news group who can give you some
casting lessons.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"Pete Knox" wrote in message
...

I've been a spinner fisherman for a bit of a while, and would like to get
started in flyfishing. I will be moving back to NJ in about a month, and
will mostly be fishing medium to large sized lakes. I have a free canoe,
that was given to my dad. I believe it is about 14', but I'm not 100%
sure. I have experience spin fishing from a canoe, but wonder how
practical it is to flyfish from one. Do I need to go up/down in line
weight and/or rod length/action to accomodate sitting down? I do also
plan
on doing some stream fishing for trout(where I'll wade) and was planning
on
a 5 or 6 wt, 8.5 to 9' medium-fast action rod. I was hoping I could use
the same rod on the lake in the canoe - where I would go after trout,
smallmouth, and the occasional other species (if lucky ). Is that
possible? Will it be harder as a beginner to learn to cast from the boat?

Lots of questions, I know.

Thanks in advance,

Pete Knox

PS: Chico Fernandez and flip Pallot fly fish from canoes a lot. they fly
fish in the EVerglades in FL for Snook, Tarpon and Black Bass in the back
country. They us a 16' by 36" cottage canoe that is flat bottom and usually
has a small keel. They stand and use a 12' pole if it is less than 4 feet
deep.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"Pete Knox" wrote in message
...
I've been a spinner fisherman for a bit of a while, and would like to get
started in flyfishing. I will be moving back to NJ in about a month, and
will mostly be fishing medium to large sized lakes. I have a free canoe,
that was given to my dad. I believe it is about 14', but I'm not 100%
sure. I have experience spin fishing from a canoe, but wonder how
practical it is to flyfish from one. Do I need to go up/down in line
weight and/or rod length/action to accomodate sitting down? I do also
plan
on doing some stream fishing for trout(where I'll wade) and was planning
on
a 5 or 6 wt, 8.5 to 9' medium-fast action rod. I was hoping I could use
the same rod on the lake in the canoe - where I would go after trout,
smallmouth, and the occasional other species (if lucky ). Is that
possible? Will it be harder as a beginner to learn to cast from the boat?

Lots of questions, I know.

Thanks in advance,

Pete Knox

A group of fly fishers in Florida, including Chico Fernandez and Flip
Pallot, use a special 'cottage style' or 'tumblehome' canoe for fly fishing
in the 'backcountry'. These are 16' canoes that are 36" wide with a flat
bottom and a small keel. They will actually pole them with a 12' pole if the
water is less than 4 feet deep. Some canoes are wider and better for fly
casting on flat water than others. I would go for a canoe that was more
stable so you could stand and cast in the right situation.

When fly casting from a canoe or kayak you need to be able to cast without
using you entire body, just your arms.

I prefer small (8'-16') flat bottom prams or Jon boats with electric or 4
stroke outboards.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"Pete Knox" wrote in message
...

I've been a spinner fisherman for a bit of a while, and would like to get
started in flyfishing. I will be moving back to NJ in about a month, and
will mostly be fishing medium to large sized lakes. I have a free canoe,
that was given to my dad. I believe it is about 14', but I'm not 100%
sure. I have experience spin fishing from a canoe, but wonder how
practical it is to flyfish from one. Do I need to go up/down in line
weight and/or rod length/action to accomodate sitting down? I do also
plan
on doing some stream fishing for trout(where I'll wade) and was planning
on
a 5 or 6 wt, 8.5 to 9' medium-fast action rod. I was hoping I could use
the same rod on the lake in the canoe - where I would go after trout,
smallmouth, and the occasional other species (if lucky ). Is that
possible? Will it be harder as a beginner to learn to cast from the boat?

Lots of questions, I know.

Thanks in advance,

Pete Knox

Bill Kiene wrote:

A group of fly fishers in Florida, including Chico Fernandez and Flip
Pallot, use a special 'cottage style' or 'tumblehome' canoe for fly fishing
in the 'backcountry'. These are 16' canoes that are 36" wide with a flat
bottom and a small keel. They will actually pole them with a 12' pole if the
water is less than 4 feet deep. Some canoes are wider and better for fly
casting on flat water than others. I would go for a canoe that was more
stable so you could stand and cast in the right situation.

When fly casting from a canoe or kayak you need to be able to cast without
using you entire body, just your arms.

I prefer small (8'-16') flat bottom prams or Jon boats with electric or 4
stroke outboards.


i think i've seen flip and the other famous fella (spanish fly) from
south florida in one of harley gheen's gheenoes...a florida-made
product. it's as you describe and very stable for a canoe-type craft.

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 09:26:35 -0400, jeff wrote:

Bill Kiene wrote:

A group of fly fishers in Florida, including Chico Fernandez and Flip
Pallot, use a special 'cottage style' or 'tumblehome' canoe for fly fishing
in the 'backcountry'. These are 16' canoes that are 36" wide with a flat
bottom and a small keel. They will actually pole them with a 12' pole if the
water is less than 4 feet deep. Some canoes are wider and better for fly
casting on flat water than others. I would go for a canoe that was more
stable so you could stand and cast in the right situation.

When fly casting from a canoe or kayak you need to be able to cast without
using you entire body, just your arms.

I prefer small (8'-16') flat bottom prams or Jon boats with electric or 4
stroke outboards.


i think i've seen flip and the other famous fella (spanish fly) from
south florida in one of harley gheen's gheenoes...a florida-made
product. it's as you describe and very stable for a canoe-type craft.

Willi was standing in one of my kayaks (Wilderness Systems Ride) in the Keys. He
fell out once, but that was because a tarpon swam directly under him and he got
'distracted'. g The boat didn't tip over, though.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com

Charlie Choc wrote:


Willi was standing in one of my kayaks (Wilderness Systems Ride) in the Keys. He
fell out once, but that was because a tarpon swam directly under him and he got
'distracted'. g The boat didn't tip over, though.

Well, it was several Tarpon.

It is possible to stand in one in calm water with
no wind if you remain calm and quiet. However, there is NO WAY that I
would ever try and fish from one while standing up.

Although sit on top kayaks are a great way to get around, IMO, they are
a poor fly fishing vehicle for a variety of reasons. (However, I would
LOVE to hook a big Tarpon or whatever in one and get taken for a ride)

Willi

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 09:00:57 -0600, Willi wrote:

Although sit on top kayaks are a great way to get around, IMO, they are
a poor fly fishing vehicle for a variety of reasons.

I agree. I have fly fished from canoes, gheenoes and SOT's and none are great
fishing platforms IMO, though if I had to choose I'd pick a SOT. I'd prefer a
flats boat, though. g
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com