OT Karma Catches Up With Cheats

A hearty congrats and a raised glass to the 1972 Miami Dolphins.

And a job well done to the New York team who played a pretty good
football game today.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
And a job well done to the New York team who played a pretty good
football game today.

I gotta say, I thought the game very discouraging. The Giants really were
not that good; and the Pats barely seemed to be trying. Frankly, the result
seemed tailor-made for bookies and merchandisers. Other than the "any given
Sunday" possibility, it sure looked like a fix to me. I wish I had more
faith in the integrity of the game; but I don't.

Joe F.

On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 03:43:28 GMT, "rb608"
wrote:

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
And a job well done to the New York team who played a pretty good
football game today.

I gotta say, I thought the game very discouraging. The Giants really were
not that good; and the Pats barely seemed to be trying. Frankly, the result
seemed tailor-made for bookies and merchandisers. Other than the "any given
Sunday" possibility, it sure looked like a fix to me. I wish I had more
faith in the integrity of the game; but I don't.

Joe F.

Aw, c'mon, Joe. This was a classic Greek Tragedy of an object lesson, no fix
required ;-)

Bottom line is the Giants arrived with a better defensive strategy than the
Pats offensive strategy - at least in the first half, when New England really
should have put more points on the board using the same short passing game
that got them to this game in the first place and that put them in the lead
near the end. For whatever reasons, the Pats too often ran plays that weren't
working and kept putting themselves into long third downs.

Whatever. My favorite team lost, my second favorite team won, and next year is
a whole new season of opportunities. My only regret is that the effing '72
Dolphins remain alone in all of their dried-up splendor - and I was really
looking forward to sticking them with an asterisk ;-)

In the mean time, the Celtics demand watching...

/daytripper
(...and Pitchers and Catchers report in 9 days :23 hrs :7 mins :3 secs :-)

"daytripper" wrote in message
...
My only regret is that the effing '72
Dolphins remain alone in all of their dried-up splendor - and I was really
looking forward to sticking them with an asterisk ;-)
/daytripper

Great game!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QvBqTe_kFc
-tom

On Feb 4, 8:55*am, daytripper wrote:
Aw, c'mon, Joe. This was a classic Greek Tragedy of an object lesson, no fix
required ;-)

Yeah, maybe "fix" is too strong an accusation, and the machinations
necessary for such a thing no small matter; but from my sofa, I
thought both teams uninspired & uninspiring, as though they were going
through the motions, with the drama already scripted. The media
already had their darling; all that was left was to get through 60
minutes of a football game so they could sell more stuff. Kind of
like the Brady franchise had run its course, but the Eli market was
just opening up. I dunno, maybe it's just me.

Joe F.

rb608 typed:
On Feb 4, 8:55 am, daytripper wrote:
Aw, c'mon, Joe. This was a classic Greek Tragedy of an object
lesson, no fix required ;-)

Yeah, maybe "fix" is too strong an accusation, and the machinations
necessary for such a thing no small matter; but from my sofa, I
thought both teams uninspired & uninspiring, as though they were going
through the motions, with the drama already scripted. The media
already had their darling; all that was left was to get through 60
minutes of a football game so they could sell more stuff. Kind of
like the Brady franchise had run its course, but the Eli market was
just opening up. I dunno, maybe it's just me.

I vote for the "it's just me" answer, and think we must have been watching
different games. The Giants had the Pats offense on their heels from early
in the game. Their blitzes were near-flawless, and the Pats abandoned the
offense that got them to the bowl in the first place. It was a great game
that kept me watching all the way to the last seconds.

As far as your "uninspiring" comments, I think you must be referring to the
halftime show and most of the ads - BLECH! Although it was VERY sophomoric,
the Doritos-mouse-through-the-wall ad cracked me up. The e-trade "baby" ads
were pretty cool, too.
--
TL,
Tim
-------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

On Feb 4, 10:25*am, "Tim J."
wrote:
rb608 typed:

On Feb 4, 8:55 am, daytripper wrote:
Aw, c'mon, Joe. This was a classic Greek Tragedy of an object
lesson, no fix required ;-)

Yeah, maybe "fix" is too strong an accusation, and the machinations
necessary for such a thing no small matter; but from my sofa, I
thought both teams uninspired & uninspiring, as though they were going
through the motions, with the drama already scripted. *The media
already had their darling; all that was left was to get through 60
minutes of a football game so they could sell more stuff. *Kind of
like the Brady franchise had run its course, but the Eli market was
just opening up. *I dunno, maybe it's just me.

I vote for the "it's just me" answer, and think we must have been watching
different games. The Giants had the Pats offense on their heels from early
in the game. Their blitzes were near-flawless, and the Pats abandoned the
offense that got them to the bowl in the first place. It was a great game
that kept me watching all the way to the last seconds.

As far as your "uninspiring" comments, I think you must be referring to the
halftime show and most of the ads - BLECH! Although it was VERY sophomoric,
the Doritos-mouse-through-the-wall ad cracked me up. The e-trade "baby" ads
were pretty cool, too.
--
TL,
Tim
-------------------------http://css.sbcma.com/timj

It seemed to me that the Pat's offensive line was about a half step
slower than normal. Just enough to allow the Giant's defense to be
rffective. I think they need younger legs on the line. In many of the
closeups those guys looked tired right from the get-go. I still think
that Brady was bothered by the ankle, and that may have had a lot to
do with the plays they chose to run in the first half. One question
was answered however......Eli Manning is a legitimate NFL QB.
The sad thing is that this was a once in a lifetime chance. The Pat's
will have other good seasons and win other Superbowls, but this was
their one shot at a perfect season. One good thing, (maybe), is this
game mat spawn a NE/NY rivalry similar to the Sox and Yanks.

On Feb 4, 10:25*am, "Tim J."
wrote:
I vote for the "it's just me" answer, and think we must have been watching
different games.

Not having a home team in the contest or money on the outcome, I
suppose I started with less interest from the outset. Plus, we were
well into our third 1.5L bottle of Merlot by kickoff.


As far as your "uninspiring" comments, I think you must be referring to the
halftime show

Didn't even consider watching that. There is no act so good that the
Super Bowl Halftime show couldn't ruin.


and most of the ads - BLECH! Although it was VERY sophomoric,
the Doritos-mouse-through-the-wall ad cracked me up. The e-trade "baby" ads
were pretty cool, too.

True enough. This year's ad lineup was subpar compared to previous
years. Ditto your choices, though. The Bud Light "Cheese Party" add
was the best of that lot.

Joe F.

"Tim J." wrote in message
...
rb608 typed:
On Feb 4, 8:55 am, daytripper wrote:
Aw, c'mon, Joe. This was a classic Greek Tragedy of an object
lesson, no fix required ;-)


I vote for the "it's just me" answer, and think we must have been watching
different games. The Giants had the Pats offense on their heels from early
in the game. Their blitzes were near-flawless, and the Pats abandoned the
offense that got them to the bowl in the first place. It was a great game
that kept me watching all the way to the last seconds.

Ditto, my thoughts on the game were just as yours. The Giants defense
rocked, which may have given the perception the Pats were at half speed.

JT

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
And a job well done to the New York team who played a pretty good
football game today.

I gotta say, I thought the game very discouraging. The Giants really were
not that good; and the Pats barely seemed to be trying.
Heh, heh. Maybe you'd like to tell one of those Patriot players that.
I'm sure they'd agree.G They tried their best I think but aggressive
defense just made it look that way.

Frankly, the result
seemed tailor-made for bookies and merchandisers. Other than the "any given
Sunday" possibility, it sure looked like a fix to me. I wish I had more
faith in the integrity of the game; but I don't.

Amazing. The 2008 Black Sox?

The Giants just attacked the weakest point....the quarterback. The
Pats receivers run the best routes in football and I don't think
anyone can cover them well. It just can't be done & all due praise to
a well coached team. Brady is accurate, is great primarily when he has
time to stand up and hit his open receivers but the Giants coaches
obviously knew that so the defense did not allow him the time he
needed. Neither qb stood up under some of the best attacking defense I
can recall seeing; those two just aren't good scramblers and both took
a drubbing but Manning was used to the beating.

While you see weakness in the game I see strength and after this one I
hope we'll not witness too many more passive defenses. This Super Bowl
has the potential to change football. And if it doesn't I'd still
guess a team with a bunch of fire breathing, raw red meat eating
defenders will be in the next one.

And a tip of the hat to Tripper for taking it so well. I know this one
must have really hurt.

Kiyu