TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS

On 10 Dec 2003 18:43:28 -0800, (rodcrafter1967)
wrote:

My last entry didn't work so I'll try again.

It would appear there is more than this that Mr. Perez is telling. It
seems that Tom Kirkman and Dick French both own rod building
magazines. Tom has Rodmaker Magazine and Dick has something called
Rodcrafter Journal So a few years back Dick French who I think is the
guy operating C&G had published or stated false circulation figures
for Tom's magazine. You would assume this was done in order to harm
the other publication and maybe drive advetisers away. So it then
appears that Tom had to take legal action to get Dick to print a
retraction and say he was wrong.

Since then Tom did allow Dick on his board at rodbuilding.org as a
sponsor but Dick kept badmouthing Tom and his magazine and so finally
Tom got fed up and kicked him off. So now Dick sends people in to
advertise for him. They get removed and you get people like Mr.Perez
upset and trying to do more harm to Tom.

I'm not taking sides here and no one likes to read others dirty
laundry but there is more to this story than Mr. Perez is telling. Tom
seems like he went out of his way to accomodate somebody who was
trying to do harm to his business and just finally said enough is
enough. Plus he does have rules there on his board that were violated.
What's the beef???

John

Aw, that's ****ah! I just love cloak and dagger espionage movies.
Don't anyone tell me how this one ends 'til we get there.

Then you can explain it to me...

/daytripper (you just can't make this stuff up! or can you? ;-)

Bluestone wrote:
...
AGAIN WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A VENDETTA.

So, go start your own bulletin board, register the domain name,
(rodcrafter.org is for sale), line up some sponsors to pay for the
whole thing, or do it out of your own pocket, and have yourself
your own vendetta.

And I promise when some clueless nitwit comes to roff making a
complete ass of himself complaining about your vendetta, I will
tell him to go start his own bulletin board and have himself his
own vendetta.

--
Ken Fortenberry

There is more to the story that what "Mr. Perez" is telling. Tom
makes everyone post a valid email address so Mr. Perez could have
easily sent a personal email to anyone asking for the information he
said he was providing. But the thing is that no one was asking for
it. Mr. Perez simply came on the board with the express purpose of
advertising for a non sponsor!!! That's why it was pulled down and it
should have been.

I think the tables need to be turned and Mr. Perez should be more
honest about his motives and who he was working on behalf of. He had
been incontact with the sponsor he was advertising for. Was he asked
to do this or did he do it on his own accord? I don't know but I do
know that the rules on the board plainly state that it is not allowed.

Gingercatz wrote:

There is more to the story that what "Mr. Perez" is telling. ...

I'm gonna have to ask for some help with my scorecard here. This
"Mr. Perez", is he Bluestone aka bluestonerod ? And you, are you
Tom, or Mr. Howell, or the Skipper or Gilligan ?

In short, WHO IN THE HELL ARE ALL YOU MORONIC WHINY ASSHOLES and
why do you think we give a good goddamn about an obscure magazine
and an even more obscure tightassed bulletin board ?

Kindly take your puerile and petty little drama somewhere where
someone actually gives a ****.

Try alt.anonymous.whiners.with.stupid.screen.names

HTH

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
news
Gingercatz wrote:

There is more to the story that what "Mr. Perez" is telling. ...

I'm gonna have to ask for some help with my scorecard here. This
"Mr. Perez", is he Bluestone aka bluestonerod ? And you, are you
Tom, or Mr. Howell, or the Skipper or Gilligan ?

In short, WHO IN THE HELL ARE ALL YOU MORONIC WHINY ASSHOLES and
why do you think we give a good goddamn about an obscure magazine
and an even more obscure tightassed bulletin board ?

Kindly take your puerile and petty little drama somewhere where
someone actually gives a ****.

Try alt.anonymous.whiners.with.stupid.screen.names

Here, here! All I've been able to gather from this discourse is that SOMEONE
runs a moderated bulletin board and SOMEONE ELSE is ****ed because he moderated
it. Go figure.

And where's cyli? Isn't this her job? Or were elections held in my absence?
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:58:39 -0500, "Tim J."
wrote:



Here, here! All I've been able to gather from this discourse is that SOMEONE
runs a moderated bulletin board and SOMEONE ELSE is ****ed because he moderated
it. Go figure.

And where's cyli? Isn't this her job? Or were elections held in my absence?

I've been trying to do it gently. It's only been going on a couple of
days, though it does seem longer.

No elections. They're sneaky that way. One day one just finds the
title has been awarded. I'm not sure but what I'd rather not have the
ducktail award, even though I don't feel I've earned that, either.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
news
Gingercatz wrote:

There is more to the story that what "Mr. Perez" is telling. ...

I'm gonna have to ask for some help with my scorecard here. This
"Mr. Perez", is he Bluestone aka bluestonerod ? And you, are you
Tom, or Mr. Howell, or the Skipper or Gilligan ?

In short, WHO IN THE HELL ARE ALL YOU MORONIC WHINY ASSHOLES and
why do you think we give a good goddamn about an obscure magazine
and an even more obscure tightassed bulletin board ?

Kindly take your puerile and petty little drama somewhere where
someone actually gives a ****.

Try alt.anonymous.whiners.with.stupid.screen.names

HTH

--
Ken Fortenberry

Oh, I don't know about all that. Seems to me it's that perspective thingy
again. I mean, yeah, if you work from the assumption that this is all being
done for our entertainment, then yes, it is a bit of a petty irritation. On
the other hand, if you assume that these halfwits are serious......not as
preposterous a proposition as it may first seem.......then it all becomes
vastly amusing. Um......think Snedeker with a vocabulary and a balanced
medication regimen.

Wolfgang

Wolfgang wrote:

... Seems to me it's that perspective thingy
again. I mean, yeah, if you work from the assumption that this is all being
done for our entertainment, then yes, it is a bit of a petty irritation. On
the other hand, if you assume that these halfwits are serious......not as
preposterous a proposition as it may first seem.......then it all becomes
vastly amusing. Um......think Snedeker with a vocabulary and a balanced
medication regimen.

One takes amusement where one finds it I guess, but a couple of weeks of
this silliness grows wearisome and I LIKE baiting the halfwits. I'm STILL
****ed at 'tripper for running off Mr. Magazine before his entertainment
value had expired.

BTW, if you ever have the opportunity to meet Dave Snedeker you two will
get along famously. Beneath that exterior of a wry, uncompromising,
scattergun sense of outrage lies an intelligent and humorous fishing buddy
with a wry, uncompromising, scattergun sense of outrage. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

dammit...stop!! i'm nearing full belly chuckle...

Wolfgang wrote:

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Gingercatz wrote:


There is more to the story that what "Mr. Perez" is telling. ...

I'm gonna have to ask for some help with my scorecard here. This
"Mr. Perez", is he Bluestone aka bluestonerod ? And you, are you
Tom, or Mr. Howell, or the Skipper or Gilligan ?

In short, WHO IN THE HELL ARE ALL YOU MORONIC WHINY ASSHOLES and
why do you think we give a good goddamn about an obscure magazine
and an even more obscure tightassed bulletin board ?

Kindly take your puerile and petty little drama somewhere where
someone actually gives a ****.

Try alt.anonymous.whiners.with.stupid.screen.names

HTH

--
Ken Fortenberry


Oh, I don't know about all that. Seems to me it's that perspective thingy
again. I mean, yeah, if you work from the assumption that this is all being
done for our entertainment, then yes, it is a bit of a petty irritation. On
the other hand, if you assume that these halfwits are serious......not as
preposterous a proposition as it may first seem.......then it all becomes
vastly amusing. Um......think Snedeker with a vocabulary and a balanced
medication regimen.

Wolfgang

"Wolfgang" wrote in message ...
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
news
Gingercatz wrote:

There is more to the story that what "Mr. Perez" is telling. ...

I'm gonna have to ask for some help with my scorecard here. This
"Mr. Perez", is he Bluestone aka bluestonerod ? And you, are you
Tom, or Mr. Howell, or the Skipper or Gilligan ?

In short, WHO IN THE HELL ARE ALL YOU MORONIC WHINY ASSHOLES and
why do you think we give a good goddamn about an obscure magazine
and an even more obscure tightassed bulletin board ?

Kindly take your puerile and petty little drama somewhere where
someone actually gives a ****.

Try alt.anonymous.whiners.with.stupid.screen.names

HTH

--
Ken Fortenberry

Oh, I don't know about all that. Seems to me it's that perspective thingy
again. I mean, yeah, if you work from the assumption that this is all being
done for our entertainment, then yes, it is a bit of a petty irritation. On
the other hand, if you assume that these halfwits are serious......not as
preposterous a proposition as it may first seem.......then it all becomes
vastly amusing. Um......think Snedeker with a vocabulary and a balanced
medication regimen.

Wolfgang

~~~~~Wolfy, seek help.