It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...

On Sep 24, 8:04*am, wrote:

I've said this before, but it's worth saying again. If this is the
typical Dem's view of the average American public, then they deserve
not to get elected. It's been this exact attitude that's lost them the
last two elections, which they should have both easily won, and if
they make it three in a row, maybe they'll finally do some navel
gazing. But if they persist in blaming the American voter as being to
stupid to vote for them, they deserve what they get.

Take care,

Jon.

Jon, so let me understand this. Are you saying that the Ds lost the
last 2 elections because some "typical Dem's" said that the average
voter is not fully informed?

I thought it had something to do with the fact that a large percent of
the voters said the believed that Iraq was behind 9/11 or maybe Iran,
that fundamentalist voters believed that God wanted Shrub to lead
America as their pastors told them, that Kerry was swishy, that global
warming was a Gore fantasy, that Wall Street was safer than Social
Security as their President told them, that stem cell research somehow
was related to murder, and that the "hydrogen economy" was the answer
to peak oil, just like their President told them. But I could be
wrong.

How does your analysis account for the fact that the a large
proportion of the average voters . . . do not even vote in most
elections? Are the "typical Dems" also responsible? Why did you vote
for Shrub? Because some "typical Dem" spoke in an irritating way? Will
you use the same decision criteria a third time? ;-))

Dave

wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:22 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

American voter is so g**d*** stupid they'll probably get elected.

And jeff wrote:

I'm with Maher on this one - our voters are a scary crowd of folks
in their decision-making process.

I've said this before, but it's worth saying again. If this is the
typical Dem's view of the average American public, then they deserve
not to get elected. It's been this exact attitude that's lost them the
last two elections, which they should have both easily won, and if
they make it three in a row, maybe they'll finally do some navel
gazing. But if they persist in blaming the American voter as being to
stupid to vote for them, they deserve what they get.

Take care,

Jon.

Have you spent much time talking with folks of diverse backgrounds and
socioeconomic levels about their choices and the reasons for their
choices? Unlike Ken's comment, though I agree we have a terribly
uninformed electorate who seem to make decisions on the most superficial
level and often on single issues or even mistaken beliefs, my comment
was less direct and simply referenced how scary the decision-making
process has become. ...and it applies to voters of both major parties.
Look at the negative, superficial nature of the political campaigns.
It's all directed at sound-bite impulse buying. Why is that? Do you
think it's because either party regards voters as intelligent consumers
of such dogma?

McCain and Palin have made numerous demonstrably false statements in
their public statements about their positions and about Obama's. I am
amazed at the number of people I talk with who believe those statements
are true...they recite them drone-like. A significant number think
offshore drilling is going to have an immediate beneficial impact on
their gas prices. Recall the number of voters who believed Iraq had
responsibility for 9/11. Why is that?

I doubt I'm the typical Dem. I'm pretty sure Ken isn't.

jeff