Why I hate beaked hooks

Because too often, they grab the tiniest bite before the beak leads the
point back out of the skin/meat whatever, and you end up with a very
precariously hooked fish.

Of course this photo could also be used to illustrate why I NEVER use
multiple hooksets. No way you know if the first set it something like this,
in which case the 2nd set is 99% sure to just rip it free.

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/no_beaks_for_me.jpg

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing

1) What is a "beaked" hook?

2) I can think of a whole bunch of timers I wish I'd set the hook a second
time but didn't.

Warren
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"RichZ" wrote in message
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Because too often, they grab the tiniest bite before the beak leads the
point back out of the skin/meat whatever, and you end up with a very
precariously hooked fish.

Of course this photo could also be used to illustrate why I NEVER use
multiple hooksets. No way you know if the first set it something like
this,
in which case the 2nd set is 99% sure to just rip it free.

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/no_beaks_for_me.jpg

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing

Go-bassn wrote:
What is a "beaked" hook?

Where the tip points slightly back toward the shank.

I can think of a whole bunch of timers I wish I'd set the hook a second
time but didn't.

I can't think of one. Don't make the mistake of assuming just because you
lost a fish, setting the hook an extra time or two might have helped. In
most cases, it wouldn't have mattered one way or another, and in some cases
it's more likely to rip the hook free or increase the size of the hole in
the lip than it is to bury a hook that's not set past the barb.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing

I definitely agree about multiple hook sets. I just use the sharpest hooks
I possibly can and that gives me the confidence that when I stick them, I
got them. There are incidents where I lose fish, we all do, but there are
so many variables that it could be and I do pay attention to the reason I
lost the fish, but I quickly move on and if it was something I did I do my
best to change it.

Just my 2 cents.

Chris
"RichZ" wrote in message
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Go-bassn wrote:
What is a "beaked" hook?

Where the tip points slightly back toward the shank.

I can think of a whole bunch of timers I wish I'd set the hook a second
time but didn't.

I can't think of one. Don't make the mistake of assuming just because you
lost a fish, setting the hook an extra time or two might have helped. In
most cases, it wouldn't have mattered one way or another, and in some
cases
it's more likely to rip the hook free or increase the size of the hole in
the lip than it is to bury a hook that's not set past the barb.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing

Looks like the fish I caught yesterday, using that same dam hook
"RichZ" wrote in message
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Because too often, they grab the tiniest bite before the beak leads the
point back out of the skin/meat whatever, and you end up with a very
precariously hooked fish.

Of course this photo could also be used to illustrate why I NEVER use
multiple hooksets. No way you know if the first set it something like
this,
in which case the 2nd set is 99% sure to just rip it free.

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/no_beaks_for_me.jpg

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing

Hey Rich
That is as thin of a hook position as I have seen. You must be living
right to get that bass to the boat. I generally read your posts with great
interest and have learned a bunch.

We differ on circle hooks.
Beaked hooks work great.....I use gammy size 1 and get great results with a
sweep hookset and firm pressure for abut 10 secs to be sure I have a solid
set. The biggest reason I lose bass( I think) is when they tail grab a
nose hooked bait. I also use 15 lb test floro as a leader for my 14 lb test
fireline.

One point we agree on is that the smaller circle hooks can hook a skinny
piece of the basses mouth. That has caused me to move to larger sizes.

I am guessing that the pic was a drop shot bass. I have very little
experience with drop shotting. Do you always use such a small hook?

Steve







"RichZ" wrote in message
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Because too often, they grab the tiniest bite before the beak leads the
point back out of the skin/meat whatever, and you end up with a very
precariously hooked fish.

Of course this photo could also be used to illustrate why I NEVER use
multiple hooksets. No way you know if the first set it something like
this,
in which case the 2nd set is 99% sure to just rip it free.

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/no_beaks_for_me.jpg

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing

One reason you lose so many fish is that hook is considered a circle hook.
Circle hooks are not meant to be set. The hook is designed so the fish
hooks its self. This is a common hook used in drop shot or jig fishing for
red snapper offshore except for the hook is larger size. The hook works
better when snelled then by just tying it on.

Sarge

"Sarge" wrote in message
The hook works
better when snelled then by just tying it on.

Sarge, can you please elaborate on this statement? Why would this be?

Also, the hook in Rich's photo looks nothing likea circle hook to me, why do
you call it one?

Thanks,

Warren

Warren wrote: 'Sarge, can you please elaborate on this statement? Why would
this be? Also, the hook in Rich's photo looks nothing like a circle hook to
me, why do you call it one?"

Warren, I did not see the original post so I went back and retrieved it. I
looked at the hook and it is considered by industry as a standard "J" hook
design. This type of hook is designed to be set by the angler when he
receives a strike. I only mentioned circle hook because it was in the first
post I read. Now to a circle hook by design is made for the fish to hook
its self. It was engineered for that purpose. It works a lot better when
it tied on by snelling the hook. This holds the hook straight in line with
the line. I dish a lot of offshore and when a fish takes off with the bait,
it hooks it self.

Personally the hook looks a little small compared to the fish. A larger
hook would possibly help with better hook set. Too small of a hook hinders
more then it helps. Looking at the picture I am surprise he landed the
fish.

I fish very little freshwater and do use "J" hooks only when I buy unpainted
lead jigs. If I fish live bait I use Eagle Claw Lazer hooks. All my hooks
are tied on using a palmor knot either directly to the braid line or a 15 LB
test mono leader. The only time I use circle hooks when jigging or drop
fishing offshore.

When I do fish freshwater, I use either a offset hook for worm fishing, a
standard worm hook, spinnerbaits or crankbaits.


Sarge

"Sarge" wrote in
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Personally the hook looks a little small compared to the fish. A
larger hook would possibly help with better hook set. Too small of a
hook hinders more then it helps. Looking at the picture I am surprise
he landed the fish.


The hook looks small to me, too. I'd think it would increase the risk of
deep hookups

Scott