Catch & Release

Problem was, it was a dink. An undersized bass. Is our President above the
law?

--
Craig Baugher
Be Confident, Focused, but most of all Have FUN!

Seems you're a couple days late on the airtime Ken, it ran 2x on the 6th.
So, tell us about it...

Warren

--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. com...
Did you happen to watch Dubya on the Roland Martin show ?

Seems our Chief Executive catches bass and then lets his
dog chew them to death instead of releasing them.

If you didn't catch it the first time, it will air again
on the Outdoor Life Network. Go here and follow the links
for air times, the episode is called "The Executive Pond."

http://www.fishingwithrolandmartin.com/

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. com...
Did you happen to watch Dubya on the Roland Martin show ?

Seems our Chief Executive catches bass and then lets his
dog chew them to death instead of releasing them.

....and eats them? If the dog eats them, I feel sorry for the dog. I can see
this creating potential health threats. On the other hand, as long as the
fish gets eaten when not thrown back I don't see a problem with not
releasing the fish.

If a person eats it for food or it's a dog that eats it, it's still being
eaten. Being eaten, for the most part, has always been an acceptable reason
for not releasing fish. In _many_ cases, releasing all caught fish actually
does more harm then good.

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Did you happen to watch Dubya on the Roland Martin show ?

Seems our Chief Executive catches bass and then lets his
dog chew them to death instead of releasing them.

If you didn't catch it the first time, it will air again
on the Outdoor Life Network. Go here and follow the links
for air times, the episode is called "The Executive Pond."

http://www.fishingwithrolandmartin.com/


I watched it today, and you have misrepresented what happened. President
Bush did say that the first dink went to the dog to play with, and he
also stated later on that the dog doesn't bite them, but just licks
them. Yes, when he put the fish on the deck it appeared in the couple of
seconds that the camera was on him, that the dog was very enthusiastic
about getting to the fish, but it was never shown or said that the dog
chews them to death. I don't know how you got out of my killfile, but
your a-fixin' to go back.

Henry Hefner wrote:

I watched it today, and you have misrepresented what happened. President
Bush did say that the first dink went to the dog to play with, ...

You know it's time for a serious change when the president of the United States
actually mutters the infantile, instantly infamous line, "Our enemies are
innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new
ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we," just after
finishing phonetically spelling out his name, in his favoritest red crayon, on
yet another budget-reaming $417 billion defense-spending bill.

And you know it's time for a change when not a single one of the rigid and
spiritually curdled military yes men standing around the ceremonial signing
table, those sad automatons with their wooden smiles and stiff spines and
bone-dry souls, not one broke into a hysterical bout of sad, suicidal laughter,
followed by uncontrolled wailing and the rending of flesh and the muttering of
oh my freaking God what the hell is this man doing as leader of the free world.

You know it's time for a change when you hear that Kerry and Edwards both wrote
their own riveting, galvanizing acceptance speeches at the Democratic National
Convention, heartfelt and effective rhetoric that gives you hope not for the
quality of polished oratory but for genuine, refreshing political intellect, and
verbal acumen, as you offer deep thanks that at least some politicians can still
speak coherently and cogently without mangling the goddamn language at every
adjectival clause.

Whereas you just know Dubya isn't capable of writing a single word of his own
speeches, and will employ entire squadrons of lackeys to do it for him at the
RNC, and will regardless still insist on mispronouncing "nukuler" and "'Murka"
and "terrist" and "gin bender at Yale," and will doubtlessly say something like,
"We must stamp out evil in all its forms because evil wants to do evil things to
us and evil don't know the depths of its own, uh, evilnesses. Praise Jesus."

There are signs and indicators. There are feelings and intuitions. There is that
undeniable tang in the air, that clenching of the cultural colon, that cringe in
the collective soul. Something has got to give. A national shakeup is more than
imminent -- it is desperately, urgently needed. And Bush is just about finished.

Don't you feel it? The sensation that the country cannot continue to careen down
this ultraviolent, antihumanitarian path much longer without implosion and
desperation and a massive increase in sedative prescriptions for anyone with an
even slightly intuitive sense of justice and future and long hot sighs of hope?
You're not alone.

You know it's time for a dramatic change when American bookstores and movie
theaters are filled with unprecedented numbers of extraordinarily damning BushCo
exposés and embarrassing tell-all tomes and brutal whistle-blower digests from
all corners of the culture, produced by everyone from disheartened CIA insiders
to ex-generals to respected reporters to former U.S. allies.

From Clarke's "Against All Enemies," Woodward's "Plan of Attack," Suskind's
"The Price of Loyalty," Phillips' "American Dynasty," Dean's "Worse Than
Watergate," Unger's "House of Bush, House of Saud" and "Imperial Hubris," by
'Anonymous,' to "Fahrenheit 9/11" and "Outfoxed" and "The Hunting of the
President." Go ahead, Google any one (or all) of those titles. The list is
endless and stunning in its depth and in the heat of its unanimous BushCo
condemnation.

Hell, it's getting so you can't turn a corner or have a nuanced, humane thought
without confronting another hunk of undeniable proof that what these media
documents say is true: The Bush administration is quite possibly the most
economically destructive, environmentally devastating, ethically corrupt,
internationally loathed, deliberately tyrannical, worst-dressed administration
in American history.

What, too harsh? Hardly.

When the professors and other intellectuals and the artists and the social
workers and the mystics and the truly spiritual among us are appalled and
mournful, and the homophobes and the rednecks and the religious zealots are
cheering and shooting their guns in the sky, this is how you know.

When America has become a global punch line, a petulant and screeching child in
an oversize Texas cowboy hat throwing oily little tantrums on a WMD whim, and
the global community can only sit there, stunned and enraged, as every ally
withdraws all offers of support and overtures of concern for our well-being,
this is how you know.

The activists know it. Angry groups are popping up by the hundreds across the
nation, all working diligently to toss a nice emetic into the Republican
gorge-fest. Some are even going so far as to offer up the ultimate sacrifice:
They will have sex with any Republicans willing to withhold their Bush vote this
election.

It's true. It's funny. It's called

http://www.fthevote.com

What, too extreme? Hey, extreme times call for extreme lubrication.

The watchdogs know it. The usual reaction from most analysts and wonks, most
intellectuals and artists, when faced with another presidential election, is
this: Yawn. After all, such ultra-elitist, top-tier shifts have little effect on
the massive daily political grind, the real meat and potatoes of government,
right? This is the common wisdom. A change in presidents is like changing the
paint on an aircraft carrier: different patina, same damn boat.

Not this time. All those who normally claim that a change in who sits in the
Oval Office means nothing are now all frantically waving their arms and shouting
their protests and joining the resistance. This election is different. This one
matters like never before in history, considering how so many of us
underestimated just how much damage a single president's gnarled, hateful
administration could unleash upon the world in a single term.

This is the new rallying cry. If you care at all about the soul of this country,
if you care at all about women's rights and gay rights and true spiritual
freedom and the environment and our international standing, if you care at all
about actually reducing the anti-U.S. hatred in the world, as opposed to
amplifying it a thousandfold, then oh my god yes, this election matters.

This, then, is how you know it's time for a serious change. When you can feel it
in your bones, when you finally attune and really listen to the underlying
messages and dig deep into your own spirit and discover that no, this isn't the
way the world is supposed to work. This is not the way the country has to be.

This is not the way the world's greatest superpower is supposed to behave, this
bitter metallic taste that leaps into my mouth whenever I see a picture of
BushCo isn't really supposed to be there, the vice president isn't supposed to
make children cry and flowers wilt and the gods recoil in disgust.

And the president isn't supposed to mangle the language and induce multiple wars
and invite international derision and make so many millions of us ashamed to be
Americans. It's time for a serious change. This is how you know.
-Mark Morford

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Henry Hefner wrote:


You know it's time for a change when you hear that Kerry and Edwards
both wrote their own riveting, galvanizing acceptance speeches at the
Democratic National Convention, heartfelt and effective rhetoric that
gives you hope not for the quality of polished oratory but for genuine,
refreshing political intellect, and verbal acumen, as you offer deep
thanks that at least some politicians can still speak coherently and
cogently without mangling the goddamn language at every adjectival clause.


Words are cheap,, actions speak, and Kerry's actions to date, is not
where I , or anyone who has any brains, wants this country to go.

Your saying let's vote for the one that can "lie" with the best words.
ROTFLMAO

Man Use your brains, look at actions, not words, as these guys will say
ANYTHING to get elected, Do you even know Kerry's voting record ?

Hell No !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF THE DEMOCRATS HAD A DECENT CANDIDATE, I might even vote for him,, but
is this is the best ya'll can do, you need to start all over again.

THIS GUY IS 100% FOR MORE GOVERNMENT, MORE LAWS, MORE TAXES, killing the
unborn, gun control, and nationalized health care,

He is a WIMP, he got out of his combat service when he got a couple of
scratches, then to add insult to injury he actively protested the
government, and the military during a time of war.

Every enemy of the US wants him elected

With Bush you know what your getting,, no he's not a slick talking
politician, but you get someone who believes in this country, and takes
action to protect it,, Must be working, as nothing has happened since
9/11, and he even bass fishes when the cameras are not on him.

You want to keep your ability/rights to fish,, don't vote for Kerry.

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Kenneth,you wrote that I was going off the deep end................LOL.I
hear Canada calling and they are calling you home with the rest of your
ilk.PLONK!
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. ..
Henry Hefner wrote:

I watched it today, and you have misrepresented what happened. President
Bush did say that the first dink went to the dog to play with, ...

You know it's time for a serious change when the president of the United
States
actually mutters the infantile, instantly infamous line, "Our enemies are
innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about
new
ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we," just after
finishing phonetically spelling out his name, in his favoritest red
crayon, on
yet another budget-reaming $417 billion defense-spending bill.

And you know it's time for a change when not a single one of the rigid and
spiritually curdled military yes men standing around the ceremonial
signing
table, those sad automatons with their wooden smiles and stiff spines and
bone-dry souls, not one broke into a hysterical bout of sad, suicidal
laughter,
followed by uncontrolled wailing and the rending of flesh and the
muttering of
oh my freaking God what the hell is this man doing as leader of the free
world.

You know it's time for a change when you hear that Kerry and Edwards both
wrote
their own riveting, galvanizing acceptance speeches at the Democratic
National
Convention, heartfelt and effective rhetoric that gives you hope not for
the
quality of polished oratory but for genuine, refreshing political
intellect, and
verbal acumen, as you offer deep thanks that at least some politicians can
still
speak coherently and cogently without mangling the goddamn language at
every
adjectival clause.

Whereas you just know Dubya isn't capable of writing a single word of his
own
speeches, and will employ entire squadrons of lackeys to do it for him at
the
RNC, and will regardless still insist on mispronouncing "nukuler" and
"'Murka"
and "terrist" and "gin bender at Yale," and will doubtlessly say something
like,
"We must stamp out evil in all its forms because evil wants to do evil
things to
us and evil don't know the depths of its own, uh, evilnesses. Praise
Jesus."

There are signs and indicators. There are feelings and intuitions. There
is that
undeniable tang in the air, that clenching of the cultural colon, that
cringe in
the collective soul. Something has got to give. A national shakeup is more
than
imminent -- it is desperately, urgently needed. And Bush is just about
finished.

Don't you feel it? The sensation that the country cannot continue to
careen down
this ultraviolent, antihumanitarian path much longer without implosion and
desperation and a massive increase in sedative prescriptions for anyone
with an
even slightly intuitive sense of justice and future and long hot sighs of
hope?
You're not alone.

You know it's time for a dramatic change when American bookstores and
movie
theaters are filled with unprecedented numbers of extraordinarily damning
BushCo
exposés and embarrassing tell-all tomes and brutal whistle-blower digests
from
all corners of the culture, produced by everyone from disheartened CIA
insiders
to ex-generals to respected reporters to former U.S. allies.

From Clarke's "Against All Enemies," Woodward's "Plan of Attack,"
Suskind's
"The Price of Loyalty," Phillips' "American Dynasty," Dean's "Worse Than
Watergate," Unger's "House of Bush, House of Saud" and "Imperial Hubris,"
by
'Anonymous,' to "Fahrenheit 9/11" and "Outfoxed" and "The Hunting of the
President." Go ahead, Google any one (or all) of those titles. The list is
endless and stunning in its depth and in the heat of its unanimous BushCo
condemnation.

Hell, it's getting so you can't turn a corner or have a nuanced, humane
thought
without confronting another hunk of undeniable proof that what these media
documents say is true: The Bush administration is quite possibly the most
economically destructive, environmentally devastating, ethically corrupt,
internationally loathed, deliberately tyrannical, worst-dressed
administration
in American history.

What, too harsh? Hardly.

When the professors and other intellectuals and the artists and the social
workers and the mystics and the truly spiritual among us are appalled and
mournful, and the homophobes and the rednecks and the religious zealots
are
cheering and shooting their guns in the sky, this is how you know.

When America has become a global punch line, a petulant and screeching
child in
an oversize Texas cowboy hat throwing oily little tantrums on a WMD whim,
and
the global community can only sit there, stunned and enraged, as every
ally
withdraws all offers of support and overtures of concern for our
well-being,
this is how you know.

The activists know it. Angry groups are popping up by the hundreds across
the
nation, all working diligently to toss a nice emetic into the Republican
gorge-fest. Some are even going so far as to offer up the ultimate
sacrifice:
They will have sex with any Republicans willing to withhold their Bush
vote this
election.

It's true. It's funny. It's called

http://www.fthevote.com

What, too extreme? Hey, extreme times call for extreme lubrication.

The watchdogs know it. The usual reaction from most analysts and wonks,
most
intellectuals and artists, when faced with another presidential election,
is
this: Yawn. After all, such ultra-elitist, top-tier shifts have little
effect on
the massive daily political grind, the real meat and potatoes of
government,
right? This is the common wisdom. A change in presidents is like changing
the
paint on an aircraft carrier: different patina, same damn boat.

Not this time. All those who normally claim that a change in who sits in
the
Oval Office means nothing are now all frantically waving their arms and
shouting
their protests and joining the resistance. This election is different.
This one
matters like never before in history, considering how so many of us
underestimated just how much damage a single president's gnarled, hateful
administration could unleash upon the world in a single term.

This is the new rallying cry. If you care at all about the soul of this
country,
if you care at all about women's rights and gay rights and true spiritual
freedom and the environment and our international standing, if you care at
all
about actually reducing the anti-U.S. hatred in the world, as opposed to
amplifying it a thousandfold, then oh my god yes, this election matters.

This, then, is how you know it's time for a serious change. When you can
feel it
in your bones, when you finally attune and really listen to the underlying
messages and dig deep into your own spirit and discover that no, this
isn't the
way the world is supposed to work. This is not the way the country has to
be.

This is not the way the world's greatest superpower is supposed to behave,
this
bitter metallic taste that leaps into my mouth whenever I see a picture of
BushCo isn't really supposed to be there, the vice president isn't
supposed to
make children cry and flowers wilt and the gods recoil in disgust.

And the president isn't supposed to mangle the language and induce
multiple wars
and invite international derision and make so many millions of us ashamed
to be
Americans. It's time for a serious change. This is how you know.
-Mark
Morford

You sure spent a lot of words convincing me I am right to support President
Bush and vote for him.
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

Spoil is the correct term and not the fancy rhetoric of TNBass. I only say that
since he said NOPE spoil is not the correct term. I saw a show on TV where
there was a checkpoint for fish and game. The CO laid charges for what he
called letting game go to spoil. The meat was smelly and the carcus wasn't
gutted. The CO said you have a responsibility once you harvest game not to let
it go to spoil. He made some seisures, laid charges and rightly so. Spoil is
the term not fancy rhetoric that nobody knows the true meaning
I'm respectful of fish whether it be bass or coarse fish..

Spoil is the correct term and not the fancy rhetoric of TNBass. I only say that
since he said NOPE spoil is not the correct term. I saw a show on TV where
there was a checkpoint for fish and game. The CO laid charges for what he
called letting game go to spoil. The meat was smelly and the carcus wasn't
gutted. The CO said you have a responsibility once you harvest game not to let
it go to spoil. He made some seisures, laid charges and rightly so. Spoil is
the term not fancy rhetoric that nobody knows the true meaning
I'm respectful of fish whether it be bass or coarse fish..