tying knots

spent way fu*&#$@ too much time last night trying to tie a blood know with
which to secure some new tippet to my leader, so i went in to see the nice
folks at appalachian angler today, to see if they might be of assistance.
the nice young man behind the counter spent about half an hour showing me a
couple of different knots. we practiced with some threads, and then when he
thought i might have the hang of it, he let me do the job with a double
surgeon's knot. I'm pretty sure that was the name of it. anyway, he showed
me a couple of other knots, including a nail knot. i just hope i can
remember how to do them again when the time comes. he also tipped me off on
how long my leader should be and how long my tippet should be, and showed me
a nifty double loop kind of thing that allows changing leader with quite so
much fuss. this knot tying stuff is not easy. he did show me a neat little
knot tying tool. any recommendations for favorites?

snakefiddler

"snakefiddler" wrote


this knot tying stuff is not easy. he did show me a neat little
knot tying tool. any recommendations for favorites?

i have fished for trout for the last 34 years, with more than a little
success, knowing how to tie exactly one knot: the improved clinch.

yfitp
wayno

"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
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"snakefiddler" wrote


this knot tying stuff is not easy. he did show me a neat little
knot tying tool. any recommendations for favorites?

i have fished for trout for the last 34 years, with more than a little
success, knowing how to tie exactly one knot: the improved clinch.

yfitp
wayno


maybe you can show it to me in october?

yifitm-
snake

snakefiddler wrote:
"Wayne Harrison" wrote:
"snakefiddler" wrote:
this knot tying stuff is not easy. ...

i have fished for trout for the last 34 years, with more than a little
success, knowing how to tie exactly one knot: the improved clinch.

maybe you can show it to me in october?

That exchange has to rank as one of the most pitiful in the
history of roff, not even the use of capitalization could have
redeemed it from the obtuse hall of fame.

--
Ken Fortenberry - but at least it was on topic ;-)

snakefiddler wrote:

"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
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"snakefiddler" wrote


this knot tying stuff is not easy. he did show me a neat little

knot tying tool. any recommendations for favorites?

i have fished for trout for the last 34 years, with more than a little
success, knowing how to tie exactly one knot: the improved clinch.

yfitp
wayno



maybe you can show it to me in october?

yifitm-
snake



Oh, Jesus....here we go.........

--
Tom

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"snakefiddler" wrote...
"Wayne Harrison" wrote...
"snakefiddler" wrote

this knot tying stuff is not easy. he did show me a neat little
knot tying tool. any recommendations for favorites?

i have fished for trout for the last 34 years, with more than a little
success, knowing how to tie exactly one knot: the improved clinch.

yfitp
wayno

maybe you can show it to me in october?

If I sit on your lap and bat my eyelashes, will you show me, too, Uncle Wayno?
)
--
TL,
Tim
BTW, I almost agreed with 40, but I caught myself.
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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"snakefiddler" wrote...
"Wayne Harrison" wrote...
"snakefiddler" wrote

this knot tying stuff is not easy. he did show me a neat little
knot tying tool. any recommendations for favorites?

i have fished for trout for the last 34 years, with more than a
little
success, knowing how to tie exactly one knot: the improved clinch.

yfitp
wayno

maybe you can show it to me in october?

If I sit on your lap and bat my eyelashes, will you show me, too, Uncle
Wayno?
)
--
TL,
Tim
BTW, I almost agreed with 40, but I caught myself.
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



now see, if one of the guys made a request for a fellow roffian to show him
how to tie a knot, i'm pretty sure it would have been met with a response
similar to something like, "yeah sure, i'll show ya at the next clave,or if
whatever next fishin event we attend."
but when i make a similar request, it is met with such silliness, and
disdain, as was offered up by forty- what gives?

snakefiddler

"snakefiddler" wrote...
"Tim J." wrote...
"snakefiddler" wrote...
"Wayne Harrison" wrote...
"snakefiddler" wrote

this knot tying stuff is not easy. he did show me a neat little
knot tying tool. any recommendations for favorites?
i have fished for trout for the last 34 years, with more than a little
success, knowing how to tie exactly one knot: the improved clinch.

yfitp
wayno

maybe you can show it to me in october?

If I sit on your lap and bat my eyelashes, will you show me, too, Uncle
Wayno?
)
--
TL,
Tim
BTW, I almost agreed with 40, but I caught myself.
http://css.sbcma.com/timj


now see, if one of the guys made a request for a fellow roffian to show him
how to tie a knot, i'm pretty sure it would have been met with a response
similar to something like, "yeah sure, i'll show ya at the next clave,or if
whatever next fishin event we attend."
but when i make a similar request, it is met with such silliness, and
disdain, as was offered up by forty- what gives?

Well, if you must know, here's why it's so silly. The clinch knot is the first
knot most anyone who fishes learns to secure their fly/lure/hook to the tippet.
If you haven't learned that knot yet, chances are you haven't been tying on a
fly.

Also, before your time here, wayno and rw were involved in a thrilling g
discussion over wayno's choice of knot(s). It kinda became a running joke for a
while with the knot-meisters on one side and wayno on the other. Although wayno
only uses one knot and most of the rest of us use many more, it's only because
wayno spends his time in other.....pursuits. ;-)

.. . . and on another front, the double-smiley included in my original post
indicates humor, not disdain. Don't start gettin' all sensitive on us now, okay?
Roff doesn't need another whiner.
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

snakefiddler wrote:



now see, if one of the guys made a request for a fellow roffian to show him
how to tie a knot, i'm pretty sure it would have been met with a response
similar to something like, "yeah sure, i'll show ya at the next clave,or if
whatever next fishin event we attend."
but when i make a similar request, it is met with such silliness, and
disdain, as was offered up by forty- what gives?



I don't believe it's because you're a woman (well it is but not JUST
because of that). At least as I read it, you "flirt" at times. I think
what you're seeing is a natural response to that. Cyli, for example,
doesn't flirt and she gets a different type of response than you do.

Willi

snakefiddler wrote:

now see, if one of the guys made a request for a fellow roffian to show him
how to tie a knot, i'm pretty sure it would have been met with a response
similar to something like, "yeah sure, i'll show ya at the next clave,or if
whatever next fishin event we attend."
but when i make a similar request, it is met with such silliness, and
disdain, as was offered up by forty- what gives?

Here's what any self respecting novice flyfisherman should do. Buy a
damn knot book. Sosin & Kreh is the best, IMO. Don't post some absurdly
vague question about knots on ROFF until you have at least some slight
clue about it. Practice, practice, practice. Don't practice on the
stream. Practice at home. Isn't that what everyone does when they're
first learning? Do you suppose there's some royal road to knot tying
through the Internet? How can you even go flyfishing without some basic,
rudimentary knowledge of knots? (Beyond the improved clinch knot, that
is, Wayno notwithstanding.)

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