fishin for trout in lakes

"rw" wrote in message
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snakefiddler wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
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snakefiddler wrote:


my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout
in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?

Yes. Definitely. It's another world.


and with that helpful bit of information, i feel totally prepared.
thanks,
r. w.
geez

All right, see if you can get this. I have no idea what kind of lakes
you fish. There are as many different kinds of lakes as there are kinds
of streams. Your question is ridiculous. It's like asking, "In the
absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in streams, does one
approach fly selection differently than when fishing
lakes?" Read a damn book or two.

Asking such a broad question (no pun intended) strikes me as an
attention-getting device. (Not there's anything wrong with that, up to a
point).

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

then all you had to say is something like," how one approaches fishing for
trout in lakes varies depending on the type of lake. it is a question
difficult to answer without having more specific information, but maybe
there are some resources out there with more information."

-and i have read one book so far on fly fishing- john gierach's fly fishing
small streams. sorry i couldn't read every resource all at once. and what
the hell was i thinking asking a fly fishing related question on a fly
fishing newsgroup? maybe i should stick to off topic stuff? oh, wait, that
didn't work either.......

snakefiddler

"rw" wrote in message
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snakefiddler wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
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snakefiddler wrote:


my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout
in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?

Yes. Definitely. It's another world.


and with that helpful bit of information, i feel totally prepared.
thanks,
r. w.
geez

All right, see if you can get this. I have no idea what kind of lakes
you fish. There are as many different kinds of lakes as there are kinds
of streams. Your question is ridiculous. It's like asking, "In the
absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in streams, does one
approach fly selection differently than when fishing
lakes?" Read a damn book or two.

Asking such a broad question (no pun intended) strikes me as an
attention-getting device. (Not there's anything wrong with that, up to a
point).

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

then all you had to say is something like," how one approaches fishing for
trout in lakes varies depending on the type of lake. it is a question
difficult to answer without having more specific information, but maybe
there are some resources out there with more information."

-and i have read one book so far on fly fishing- john gierach's fly fishing
small streams. sorry i couldn't read every resource all at once. and what
the hell was i thinking asking a fly fishing related question on a fly
fishing newsgroup? maybe i should stick to off topic stuff? oh, wait, that
didn't work either.......

snakefiddler

"John" wrote in message
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"snakefiddler" wrote
in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?

Not knowing your lake and presuming you are shore fishing, my son
"always"
has great luck using damsel fly and dragon fly nymphs indigenous to the
specific water body. His theory is that these nymphs are such a big meal
that they attract and invite strikes from the smarter medium and large
sized
trout. Try strip fishing one of these bead head and/or weighted nymphs
with
a sink tip floating line and see if you can get some takes.

Good luck!

John



thanks john, i'll try it. i'll be back out there because it is a nice,
un-crowded place that my son and i (since he spin casts) can fish together.

snake

"John" wrote in message
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"snakefiddler" wrote
in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?

Not knowing your lake and presuming you are shore fishing, my son
"always"
has great luck using damsel fly and dragon fly nymphs indigenous to the
specific water body. His theory is that these nymphs are such a big meal
that they attract and invite strikes from the smarter medium and large
sized
trout. Try strip fishing one of these bead head and/or weighted nymphs
with
a sink tip floating line and see if you can get some takes.

Good luck!

John



thanks john, i'll try it. i'll be back out there because it is a nice,
un-crowded place that my son and i (since he spin casts) can fish together.

snake

snakefiddler wrote:
yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler

Try looking at some of the British fishing sites. They are very big on
fishing "still water." Flyfisherman and Flytyer magazine (the best fly
fishing magazine in the world) has quite a bit on this. There is a good
article in the most recent issue. It is pricey (i.e. 7-9 dollars US),
but can be found in most good bookstores (I go to Borders).
The key to still water is getting the flies to where the fish are. It
is extremely difficult to fly fish deeper than 8 or 9 feet and that is a
stretch. Sink tip and full sink lines are used for the most part.
Secondarily, getting to where the fish are requires some kind of
floatation, either belly boat or full boat or something in between.
When there is deep water available, the fish don't often hug the
shoreline where you can cast.

--
Frank Reid
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snakefiddler wrote:
yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler

Try looking at some of the British fishing sites. They are very big on
fishing "still water." Flyfisherman and Flytyer magazine (the best fly
fishing magazine in the world) has quite a bit on this. There is a good
article in the most recent issue. It is pricey (i.e. 7-9 dollars US),
but can be found in most good bookstores (I go to Borders).
The key to still water is getting the flies to where the fish are. It
is extremely difficult to fly fish deeper than 8 or 9 feet and that is a
stretch. Sink tip and full sink lines are used for the most part.
Secondarily, getting to where the fish are requires some kind of
floatation, either belly boat or full boat or something in between.
When there is deep water available, the fish don't often hug the
shoreline where you can cast.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse Email to reply

"snakefiddler" wrote...
yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?

On our local lakes/ponds that hold trout, I've found the surface fishing poor
except at dawn and dusk. During those times, I use the same types of dry flies
as a stream, depending on the visible hatch. Subsurface, damselfly nymphs and
wooly buggers usually produce a fish or two.
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj

"snakefiddler" wrote...
yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?

On our local lakes/ponds that hold trout, I've found the surface fishing poor
except at dawn and dusk. During those times, I use the same types of dry flies
as a stream, depending on the visible hatch. Subsurface, damselfly nymphs and
wooly buggers usually produce a fish or two.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
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snakefiddler wrote:
yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with
my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his
first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler

Try looking at some of the British fishing sites. They are very big on
fishing "still water." Flyfisherman and Flytyer magazine (the best fly
fishing magazine in the world) has quite a bit on this. There is a good
article in the most recent issue. It is pricey (i.e. 7-9 dollars US),
but can be found in most good bookstores (I go to Borders).
The key to still water is getting the flies to where the fish are. It
is extremely difficult to fly fish deeper than 8 or 9 feet and that is a
stretch. Sink tip and full sink lines are used for the most part.
Secondarily, getting to where the fish are requires some kind of
floatation, either belly boat or full boat or something in between.
When there is deep water available, the fish don't often hug the
shoreline where you can cast.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse Email to reply


thanks, frank. sounds like we'll stick to the lakes we can boat in.

snake

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
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snakefiddler wrote:
yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with
my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his
first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler

Try looking at some of the British fishing sites. They are very big on
fishing "still water." Flyfisherman and Flytyer magazine (the best fly
fishing magazine in the world) has quite a bit on this. There is a good
article in the most recent issue. It is pricey (i.e. 7-9 dollars US),
but can be found in most good bookstores (I go to Borders).
The key to still water is getting the flies to where the fish are. It
is extremely difficult to fly fish deeper than 8 or 9 feet and that is a
stretch. Sink tip and full sink lines are used for the most part.
Secondarily, getting to where the fish are requires some kind of
floatation, either belly boat or full boat or something in between.
When there is deep water available, the fish don't often hug the
shoreline where you can cast.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse Email to reply


thanks, frank. sounds like we'll stick to the lakes we can boat in.

snake