Playing A Fish Quest. ?

Hi,

New at this, and would like to see a discussion on
the subject of "playing a fish" when flyfishing for trout.

For "typical" sized New England trout, e.g. rainbows and brookies,
do you folks literally just haul them in (certainly no problem in
overpowering them even with very thin tippet sizes), or do you
like to "play" them some, and tire them a bit, before landing them.

Which is better for the fish' chance of surviving ?

Do you wait until you have a real large sized trout on before "playing him"
off the reel, some ? How large ?

Very interested in the techniques for this used by others.

Thanks,
B.

Bob wrote:
...
Very interested in the techniques for this used by others.

It's not the size of the fish in the fight, it's the size of
the fight in the fish. In other words, it all depends. ;-)

In general bring the fish to hand or net as quickly as possible.
There are times when your equipment is overmatched for one
reason or another, strong current, big fish, strong fish, foul
hooked, in which case you point the rod tip straight at the
fish and break him off rather than continuing a battle that
might prove fatal to the fish. For the kind of fishing you
describe this will hardly ever be an issue unless you're using
a 1wt or a 2wt.

On the other hand, I try to get every fish, no matter how small,
on the reel instead of just pulling them in by hand which would
probably be a little quicker. It just seems like the honorable
thing to do.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:


On the other hand, I try to get every fish, no matter how small,
on the reel instead of just pulling them in by hand which would
probably be a little quicker. It just seems like the honorable
thing to do.




More honorable to use a method that in some situations is less efficient
and results in a longer fight?

Strange choice of words. Pretentious, misguided, rigid, elitist, or
..... (not that I think it's a "bad" thing to do) but honorable?

Maybe it does say something about how you view honor?

Willi

Willi wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
On the other hand, I try to get every fish, no matter how small,
on the reel instead of just pulling them in by hand which would
probably be a little quicker. It just seems like the honorable
thing to do.

More honorable to use a method that in some situations is less efficient
and results in a longer fight?

Strange choice of words. Pretentious, misguided, rigid, elitist, or
.... (not that I think it's a "bad" thing to do) but honorable?

Maybe it does say something about how you view honor?

I try to honor the fish, which would generally mean bonking them
on the head and eating their flesh while thanking the fish spirit
for sustenance. In terms of catch and release, I try to honor the
fish by catching them properly, with respect, and releasing them
them same way. For me, catching them properly means getting them
on the reel.

YMMV.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:



I try to honor the fish, which would generally mean bonking them
on the head and eating their flesh while thanking the fish spirit
for sustenance. In terms of catch and release, I try to honor the
fish by catching them properly, with respect, and releasing them
them same way. For me, catching them properly means getting them
on the reel.

YMMV.



That all sounds very cute.


"properly" another strange word.


I'm not sure how putting the fish on the reel if it results in taking
longer to land it fits in with "honor the fish" and treating them "with
respect." Sounds to me that it's just somehow more satisfying to YOU or
somehow fits in with some image you have of YOURSELF. (Which is fine
with me but calling it "proper" and "honorable" ???????)

Willi

Willi wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
I try to honor the fish, which would generally mean bonking them
on the head and eating their flesh while thanking the fish spirit
for sustenance. In terms of catch and release, I try to honor the
fish by catching them properly, with respect, and releasing them
them same way. For me, catching them properly means getting them
on the reel.

YMMV.

That all sounds very cute.

"properly" another strange word.

I'm not sure how putting the fish on the reel if it results in taking
longer to land it fits in with "honor the fish" and treating them "with
respect." Sounds to me that it's just somehow more satisfying to YOU or
somehow fits in with some image you have of YOURSELF. (Which is fine
with me but calling it "proper" and "honorable" ???????)

I like to do things right, and for me getting the fish, no matter
how small, on the reel is right, meet, proper and honorable. I
don't ever have much slack line out of the reel. That's one of the
things you learn as you get better at this fly fishing thing, so
the difference between pulling in the line by hand and taking up
the slack to play the fish "right" is negligible.

Respecting the fish by honoring the sport of fly fishing, or strange
fetish of an elitist snob. Call it whatever you want. That's how I
do things and if you want to disparage my motives, well that's just
roff, isn't it ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

cant someone give their feelings on a subject without being lambasted
everytime
you think one thing he thinks another big dealwe are talking about a sport
which people have personal values and opinions cant you just accept his are
different to yours or is this just bait to fire ken up?
"Willi" wrote in message
...


Ken Fortenberry wrote:



I try to honor the fish, which would generally mean bonking them
on the head and eating their flesh while thanking the fish spirit
for sustenance. In terms of catch and release, I try to honor the
fish by catching them properly, with respect, and releasing them
them same way. For me, catching them properly means getting them
on the reel.

YMMV.



That all sounds very cute.


"properly" another strange word.


I'm not sure how putting the fish on the reel if it results in taking
longer to land it fits in with "honor the fish" and treating them "with
respect." Sounds to me that it's just somehow more satisfying to YOU or
somehow fits in with some image you have of YOURSELF. (Which is fine with
me but calling it "proper" and "honorable" ???????)

Willi

Willi wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
I try to honor the fish, which would generally mean bonking them
on the head and eating their flesh while thanking the fish spirit
for sustenance. In terms of catch and release, I try to honor the
fish by catching them properly, with respect, and releasing them
them same way. For me, catching them properly means getting them
on the reel.

YMMV.

That all sounds very cute.

"properly" another strange word.

I'm not sure how putting the fish on the reel if it results in taking
longer to land it fits in with "honor the fish" and treating them "with
respect." Sounds to me that it's just somehow more satisfying to YOU or
somehow fits in with some image you have of YOURSELF. (Which is fine
with me but calling it "proper" and "honorable" ???????)

I like to do things right, and for me getting the fish, no matter
how small, on the reel is right, meet, proper and honorable. I
don't ever have much slack line out of the reel. That's one of the
things you learn as you get better at this fly fishing thing, so
the difference between pulling in the line by hand and taking up
the slack to play the fish "right" is negligible.

Respecting the fish by honoring the sport of fly fishing, or strange
fetish of an elitist snob. Call it whatever you want. That's how I
do things and if you want to disparage my motives, well that's just
roff, isn't it ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:



I try to honor the fish, which would generally mean bonking them
on the head and eating their flesh while thanking the fish spirit
for sustenance. In terms of catch and release, I try to honor the
fish by catching them properly, with respect, and releasing them
them same way. For me, catching them properly means getting them
on the reel.

YMMV.



That all sounds very cute.


"properly" another strange word.


I'm not sure how putting the fish on the reel if it results in taking
longer to land it fits in with "honor the fish" and treating them "with
respect." Sounds to me that it's just somehow more satisfying to YOU or
somehow fits in with some image you have of YOURSELF. (Which is fine
with me but calling it "proper" and "honorable" ???????)

Willi

Willi wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
On the other hand, I try to get every fish, no matter how small,
on the reel instead of just pulling them in by hand which would
probably be a little quicker. It just seems like the honorable
thing to do.

More honorable to use a method that in some situations is less efficient
and results in a longer fight?

Strange choice of words. Pretentious, misguided, rigid, elitist, or
.... (not that I think it's a "bad" thing to do) but honorable?

Maybe it does say something about how you view honor?

I try to honor the fish, which would generally mean bonking them
on the head and eating their flesh while thanking the fish spirit
for sustenance. In terms of catch and release, I try to honor the
fish by catching them properly, with respect, and releasing them
them same way. For me, catching them properly means getting them
on the reel.

YMMV.

--
Ken Fortenberry