John Wayne

"asadi" wrote in message
. ..


...get the link to those pics?

Yep. Sorry I didn't get back to you on that. Been pretty busy here the
last couple of weeks. Just got back from what was supposed to be a scouting
trip to the U.P. late last evening. TR to follow.

Wolfgang

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. com...
Tom Littleton wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message

The old fool wanted to stir up some ****, ostensibly to honor
the anniversry of John Wayne's birth, but mostly because he's
just an ignorant old fool who had too much to drink.

which leaves Tom thinking......at least Joe has an excuse...
what's yours?
Tom
p.s. and thanks again to the hardly ignorant "old fool" and
the recent delivery of that North Cackalacky poster.

I've never needed an excuse to speak out against racial
slurs and the ignorant bigots who use them.

True, true......you've never needed so much as a racial slur as an excuse.

Wolfgang
who can only wonder what life must be like for someone whose greatest asset
is a barely post pubescent obstinacy in the face of incontrovertible fact.

Another lie by a liar. John Wayne attempted to enlist during WWII but was
rejected due to a football injury to his shoulder. Draft dodger, indeed! Get
your facts straight - I'm sure you knew this, you just hate any patriot.
John Wayne supported the troops through the USO whenever he could - WWII
through Viet Nam. Crawl back under your rock.

Gene


"rw" wrote in message
m...
John Wayne was a draft dodger during WWII, which would be fine with me if
it weren't for the fact that he was pro-war in Viet Nam and called the
draft resistors of that era "cowards."

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

"Gene Cottrell" wrote in message
...
Another lie by a liar. John Wayne attempted to enlist during WWII but was
rejected due to a football injury to his shoulder. Draft dodger, indeed!
Get your facts straight - I'm sure you knew this, you just hate any
patriot. John Wayne supported the troops through the USO whenever he
could - WWII through Viet Nam. Crawl back under your rock.

Gene


Just some of the FACTS!

When war broke out, John Wayne tried to enlist but was rejected because of
an old football injury to his shoulder, his age (34), and his status as a
married father of four. He flew to Washington to plead that he be allowed to
join the Navy but was turned down. So he poured himself into the war effort
by making inspirational war films - among them The Fighting Seabees, Back to
Bataan and They Were Expendable. To those back home and others around the
world he became a symbol of the determined American fighting man.
Duke could not be kept from the front lines. In 1944 he spent three months
touring forward positions in the Pacific theater.

A true hero!
Gene

Gene Cottrell wrote:
Another lie by a liar. John Wayne attempted to enlist during WWII but was
rejected due to a football injury to his shoulder. Draft dodger, indeed! Get
your facts straight - I'm sure you knew this, you just hate any patriot.
John Wayne supported the troops through the USO whenever he could - WWII
through Viet Nam. Crawl back under your rock.

That's bull****.

Wayne requested requested and received a deferment during WWII (3-A --
deferred for family dependency reasons). Later during the war his
classification was changed to 2-A (deferred in support of the national
interest, whatever that means). Shortly after that he was reclassified
1-A and his movie studio appealed. He was reclassified 2-A.

As they say, you're entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Gene Cottrell wrote:
"Gene Cottrell" wrote in message
...

Another lie by a liar. John Wayne attempted to enlist during WWII but was
rejected due to a football injury to his shoulder. Draft dodger, indeed!
Get your facts straight - I'm sure you knew this, you just hate any
patriot. John Wayne supported the troops through the USO whenever he
could - WWII through Viet Nam. Crawl back under your rock.

Gene



Just some of the FACTS!

When war broke out, John Wayne tried to enlist but was rejected because of
an old football injury to his shoulder, his age (34), and his status as a
married father of four. He flew to Washington to plead that he be allowed to
join the Navy but was turned down. So he poured himself into the war effort
by making inspirational war films - among them The Fighting Seabees, Back to
Bataan and They Were Expendable. To those back home and others around the
world he became a symbol of the determined American fighting man.
Duke could not be kept from the front lines. In 1944 he spent three months
touring forward positions in the Pacific theater.

A true hero!

Those aren't facts. They're delusions. Wayne never received a 4-F
deferment. Through his movie studio, he actively sought and received a
2-A deferment after being reclassified 1-A. Read the straight dope:

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_004.html

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rw wrote in m:


As they say, you're entitled to your own opinion, but not to
your own facts.

Nice one ;0)

"Gene Cottrell" wrote in message
...

"Gene Cottrell" wrote in message
...
Another lie by a liar. John Wayne attempted to enlist during WWII but
was
rejected due to a football injury to his shoulder. Draft dodger, indeed!
Get your facts straight - I'm sure you knew this, you just hate any
patriot. John Wayne supported the troops through the USO whenever he
could - WWII through Viet Nam. Crawl back under your rock.

Gene


Just some of the FACTS!

When war broke out, John Wayne tried to enlist but was rejected because of
an old football injury to his shoulder, his age (34), and his status as a
married father of four. He flew to Washington to plead that he be allowed
to
join the Navy but was turned down. So he poured himself into the war
effort
by making inspirational war films - among them The Fighting Seabees, Back
to
Bataan and They Were Expendable. To those back home and others around the
world he became a symbol of the determined American fighting man.
Duke could not be kept from the front lines. In 1944 he spent three months
touring forward positions in the Pacific theater.

A true hero!
Gene


So Cottrell, you repeated the standard wingnut PR myth about Wayne, which
like so many of the accounts of wing-nut patriotism is pure fiction, and you
got caught at it. At least you could acknowledge it. See, Waynes records,
unlike Shrub Bush's records did not "disappear." Wayne made a bundle during
the War, and continued the formula later with his shameless exploitation of
the Vietnam War. And even later he played the wingnut blowhard for whatever
group of armchair chickenhawks who would touch his monkey. "Conservatives"
are such suckers for frauds like Wayne and spendthrifts like Dubya. Its
pathetic.

If you wanted a right-winger who really did put his ass out there, you
should have picked Bob Hope. Or even Olli North, crazy as he is, his heroism
in Vietnam has never been seriously questioned.

Dave

David Snedeker wrote:
"Gene Cottrell" wrote in message
...

"Gene Cottrell" wrote in message
...
Another lie by a liar. John Wayne attempted to enlist during WWII but
was
rejected due to a football injury to his shoulder. Draft dodger, indeed!
Get your facts straight - I'm sure you knew this, you just hate any
patriot. John Wayne supported the troops through the USO whenever he
could - WWII through Viet Nam. Crawl back under your rock.

Gene


Just some of the FACTS!

When war broke out, John Wayne tried to enlist but was rejected because of
an old football injury to his shoulder, his age (34), and his status as a
married father of four. He flew to Washington to plead that he be allowed
to
join the Navy but was turned down. So he poured himself into the war
effort
by making inspirational war films - among them The Fighting Seabees, Back
to
Bataan and They Were Expendable. To those back home and others around the
world he became a symbol of the determined American fighting man.
Duke could not be kept from the front lines. In 1944 he spent three months
touring forward positions in the Pacific theater.

A true hero!
Gene


So Cottrell, you repeated the standard wingnut PR myth about Wayne, which
like so many of the accounts of wing-nut patriotism is pure fiction, and you
got caught at it. At least you could acknowledge it. See, Waynes records,
unlike Shrub Bush's records did not "disappear." Wayne made a bundle during
the War, and continued the formula later with his shameless exploitation of
the Vietnam War. And even later he played the wingnut blowhard for whatever
group of armchair chickenhawks who would touch his monkey. "Conservatives"
are such suckers for frauds like Wayne and spendthrifts like Dubya. Its
pathetic.

So, I'm not a fan of John Wayne, but I'm not some liberal blowhard
either. ;-)

IMDB lists his birthday as May 26th, 1907. That'd make him 34 at the
start of WWII. While he could have been drafted, it's pretty unlikely.

Also found this quote of his on IMDB which seems to sum you up
pretty well.

"I have found a certain type calls himself a Liberal...Now I always
thought I was a Liberal. I came up terribly surprised one time when I
found out that I was a Right-Wing Conservative Extremist, when I
listened to everybody's point of view that I ever met, and then decided
how I should feel. But this so-called new Liberal group, Jesus, they
never listen to your point of view..."

I didn't know that he had met you.
- Ken

On 31 May 2006 13:23:29 -0700, " wrote:


David Snedeker wrote:
"Gene Cottrell" wrote in message
...

"Gene Cottrell" wrote in message
...
Another lie by a liar. John Wayne attempted to enlist during WWII but
was
rejected due to a football injury to his shoulder. Draft dodger, indeed!
Get your facts straight - I'm sure you knew this, you just hate any
patriot. John Wayne supported the troops through the USO whenever he
could - WWII through Viet Nam. Crawl back under your rock.

Gene


Just some of the FACTS!

When war broke out, John Wayne tried to enlist but was rejected because of
an old football injury to his shoulder, his age (34), and his status as a
married father of four. He flew to Washington to plead that he be allowed
to
join the Navy but was turned down. So he poured himself into the war
effort
by making inspirational war films - among them The Fighting Seabees, Back
to
Bataan and They Were Expendable. To those back home and others around the
world he became a symbol of the determined American fighting man.
Duke could not be kept from the front lines. In 1944 he spent three months
touring forward positions in the Pacific theater.

A true hero!
Gene


So Cottrell, you repeated the standard wingnut PR myth about Wayne, which
like so many of the accounts of wing-nut patriotism is pure fiction, and you
got caught at it. At least you could acknowledge it. See, Waynes records,
unlike Shrub Bush's records did not "disappear." Wayne made a bundle during
the War, and continued the formula later with his shameless exploitation of
the Vietnam War. And even later he played the wingnut blowhard for whatever
group of armchair chickenhawks who would touch his monkey. "Conservatives"
are such suckers for frauds like Wayne and spendthrifts like Dubya. Its
pathetic.

So, I'm not a fan of John Wayne, but I'm not some liberal blowhard
either. ;-)

IMDB lists his birthday as May 26th, 1907. That'd make him 34 at the
start of WWII. While he could have been drafted, it's pretty unlikely.

Also found this quote of his on IMDB which seems to sum you up
pretty well.

"I have found a certain type calls himself a Liberal...Now I always
thought I was a Liberal. I came up terribly surprised one time when I
found out that I was a Right-Wing Conservative Extremist, when I
listened to everybody's point of view that I ever met, and then decided
how I should feel. But this so-called new Liberal group, Jesus, they
never listen to your point of view..."

I didn't know that he had met you.
- Ken

Well...as a come-back, that's about as pathetic as it gets.

But pathetic seems to be in vogue among knee-jerk righties these days when
they get cornered by the truth, so I guess that was the best we all could have
hoped for...

/daytripper (a shame, really)