Another Pipeline Believer

"Bob Weinberger" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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...idly tossing out the notion of farming Lake Erie for wind generated
electricity.

Wolfgang
*yes, yes, i know that a corridor, say a mile or so wide, would have to
be left across the length of the lake to facilitate shipping, and that
similar paths would need to be left vacant at each port of consequence.
so, we sacrifice (if my map reading skills are up to the task) something
like 23,641 generators. this leaves us with a still not entirely
insignificant total of 3,976,359.

And some winters you could even use snowmobiles instead of watercraft get
out there to perform maintenance on them, and there certainly is no
shortage of snowmobiles in the Great Lakes area. 8)

Sorta makes a boy nostalgic for the good old days (say, circa 1969 or
thereabouts) when he could just walk across......at any time of year.

Wolfgang

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Sorta makes a boy nostalgic for the good old days (say, circa 1969 or
thereabouts) when he could just walk across......at any time of year.

Wolfgang

Of course if TBone's scheme could be made to work, you could walk across
again, as all the water would be in Colorado, Utah, Arizona, etc. where it
would obviously have more value than where it is now. And think of all the
additional arable land that would become available, not just in the former
desert areas, but in the newly exposed lake beds. (and just in case there is
someone out there that needs this) 8)


Bob Weinberger

On Jul 30, 11:41 am, "Bob Weinberger"
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message

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Sorta makes a boy nostalgic for the good old days (say, circa 1969 or
thereabouts) when he could just walk across......at any time of year.

Wolfgang

Of course if TBone's scheme could be made to work, you could walk across
again, as all the water would be in Colorado, Utah, Arizona, etc. where it
would obviously have more value than where it is now. And think of all the
additional arable land that would become available, not just in the former
desert areas, but in the newly exposed lake beds. (and just in case there is
someone out there that needs this) 8)

Bob Weinberger

T-Bone would like the NAWAPA. It's not completely dead.
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/eco...s2.html#nawapa

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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Sorta makes a boy nostalgic for the good old days (say, circa 1969 or
thereabouts) when he could just walk across......at any time of year.

Wolfgang

Of course if TBone's scheme could be made to work,

Someone posted a message over on alt.great-lakes yesterday containing the
transcript of a news article (and a URL to the original) about the
alarmingly low level of Lake Superior. It seems there are a lot of folks
out there convinced that the water is already being being pumped out west
somewhere.

Things like lower than normal rainfall, increased evaporation and other
environmental factors don't make much of an impression on some people. But
then, living in a desert doesn't make much of an impression on some people.


you could walk across again, as all the water would be in Colorado, Utah,
Arizona, etc. where it would obviously have more value than where it is
now.

Yep. They could raise alewives.

And think of all the additional arable land that would become available,
not just in the former desert areas, but in the newly exposed lake beds.

The trouble is that with reduced recharge in the Great Lakes area, Erie
would have to be irrigated.

Hm........maybe we could get Colorado to send us some of their excess.
Yeah.....this could work! Okay, sure, it's downhill all the way, so we'd
have to pump it, but still.......

(and just in case there is someone out there that needs this) 8)

Now you're just confusing people.

Wolfgang

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On Jul 30, 11:41 am, "Bob Weinberger"
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message

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Sorta makes a boy nostalgic for the good old days (say, circa 1969 or
thereabouts) when he could just walk across......at any time of year.

Wolfgang

Of course if TBone's scheme could be made to work, you could walk across
again, as all the water would be in Colorado, Utah, Arizona, etc. where
it
would obviously have more value than where it is now. And think of all
the
additional arable land that would become available, not just in the
former
desert areas, but in the newly exposed lake beds. (and just in case there
is
someone out there that needs this) 8)

Bob Weinberger

T-Bone would like the NAWAPA. It's not completely dead.
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/eco...s2.html#nawapa

Thus demonstrating once again that there is no idea so stupid that it cannot
garner widespread support.

The American west doesn't need MORE water. What it needs is a few tens of
millions LESS human parasites.

Wolfgang

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:03:48 -0500, "Wolfgang"
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On Jul 30, 11:41 am, "Bob Weinberger"
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message

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Sorta makes a boy nostalgic for the good old days (say, circa 1969 or
thereabouts) when he could just walk across......at any time of year.

Wolfgang

Of course if TBone's scheme could be made to work, you could walk across
again, as all the water would be in Colorado, Utah, Arizona, etc. where
it
would obviously have more value than where it is now. And think of all
the
additional arable land that would become available, not just in the
former
desert areas, but in the newly exposed lake beds. (and just in case there
is
someone out there that needs this) 8)

Bob Weinberger

T-Bone would like the NAWAPA. It's not completely dead.
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/eco...s2.html#nawapa

Thus demonstrating once again that there is no idea so stupid that it cannot
garner widespread support.

The American west doesn't need MORE water. What it needs is a few tens of
millions LESS human parasites.

Wolfgang

Or at least tens of millions of humans who are willing to live in the
desert and accept that that is what it is. No green lawns. No green
golf courses (and thats what this is all about isn't it). No open
irrigation ditches. No ****ing "Dancing Waters" at the casino. Drink
recycled waste water (not a big Chamber of Commerce selling point, I
know). If you want to live a wet lifestyle, move somewhere where its
wet.

g.c.

On Jul 30, 1:03 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:
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On Jul 30, 11:41 am, "Bob Weinberger"
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message

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Sorta makes a boy nostalgic for the good old days (say, circa 1969 or
thereabouts) when he could just walk across......at any time of year.

Wolfgang

Of course if TBone's scheme could be made to work, you could walk across
again, as all the water would be in Colorado, Utah, Arizona, etc. where
it
would obviously have more value than where it is now. And think of all
the
additional arable land that would become available, not just in the
former
desert areas, but in the newly exposed lake beds. (and just in case there
is
someone out there that needs this) 8)

Bob Weinberger

T-Bone would like the NAWAPA. It's not completely dead.
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/eco...s2.html#nawapa

Thus demonstrating once again that there is no idea so stupid that it cannot
garner widespread support.

The American west doesn't need MORE water. What it needs is a few tens of
millions LESS human parasites.

Wolfgang- Hide quoted text -

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We need to expand NAWAPA to include canals and locks. Imagine living
in a houseboat. I could spend the summers in BC or Alberta and every
fall sail casually down the Rocky mountain trench to NM or Aizona. I
think I could build an electric houseboat such that between solar
cells on board and plugging into one of the many wind turbines along
the canal would have plenty of motive power.

On Jul 30, 6:29 pm, BJ Conner wrote:
On Jul 30, 1:03 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:



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"Wolfgang" wrote in message

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Sorta makes a boy nostalgic for the good old days (say, circa 1969 or
thereabouts) when he could just walk across......at any time of year.

Wolfgang

Of course if TBone's scheme could be made to work, you could walk across
again, as all the water would be in Colorado, Utah, Arizona, etc. where
it
would obviously have more value than where it is now. And think of all
the
additional arable land that would become available, not just in the
former
desert areas, but in the newly exposed lake beds. (and just in case there
is
someone out there that needs this) 8)

Bob Weinberger

T-Bone would like the NAWAPA. It's not completely dead.
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/eco...s2.html#nawapa

Thus demonstrating once again that there is no idea so stupid that it cannot
garner widespread support.

The American west doesn't need MORE water. What it needs is a few tens of
millions LESS human parasites.

Wolfgang- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

We need to expand NAWAPA to include canals and locks. Imagine living
in a houseboat. I could spend the summers in BC or Alberta and every
fall sail casually down the Rocky mountain trench to NM or Aizona. I
think I could build an electric houseboat such that between solar
cells on board and plugging into one of the many wind turbines along
the canal would have plenty of motive power.

Sounds great to me. I have always wanted to sail from Alberta to New
Mexico.
I could fund it with my mink coat facility.

I have a two part operation. I raise ranch mink that I slaughter for
their pelts. I feed their carcases to rats in an attached facility.
The rats are used to feed the mink.

Nothing in......mink pelts out.

Better than printing money.

cheers

oz

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:18:21 -0700, MajorOz wrote:

Sounds great to me. I have always wanted to sail from Alberta to New
Mexico. I could fund it with my mink coat facility.

I have a two part operation. I raise ranch mink that I slaughter for
their pelts. I feed their carcases to rats in an attached facility.
The rats are used to feed the mink.

Nothing in......mink pelts out.

Better than printing money.

cheers

oz

That all seems just so.....wrong....

/daytripper (I didn't wanna know how sausages are made, either ;-)

Wolfgang wrote:
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On Jul 30, 11:41 am, "Bob Weinberger"
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Sorta makes a boy nostalgic for the good old days (say, circa 1969 or
thereabouts) when he could just walk across......at any time of year.
Wolfgang
Of course if TBone's scheme could be made to work, you could walk across
again, as all the water would be in Colorado, Utah, Arizona, etc. where
it
would obviously have more value than where it is now. And think of all
the
additional arable land that would become available, not just in the
former
desert areas, but in the newly exposed lake beds. (and just in case there
is
someone out there that needs this) 8)

Bob Weinberger
T-Bone would like the NAWAPA. It's not completely dead.
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/eco...s2.html#nawapa

Thus demonstrating once again that there is no idea so stupid that it cannot
garner widespread support.

The American west doesn't need MORE water. What it needs is a few tens of
millions LESS human parasites.

Wolfgang



Yeah. Ship 'em all to Milwaukee.