Cork filler (need to buy or make)

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
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Thanks for the info. My library doesn't have those books, but I'll
make a note of them.

Then it can't be a real library g

On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:14:20 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:


Come on, dicklet.....break out of the straight jacket. Dare to be somebody.
Tell us just one thing.....one teensy little thing.....that you've actually
done in what we may generously refer to as your life.

Hmmm...lessee...OH! I KNOW! I once got Settlesworth the gin...well,
OK, so I didn't actually HAND it to him, I ordered a maid to do it, but
let me tell you, Mumsie was SO proud...and that's what's missing for
kids today - a parent's pride and sharing in their accomplishments...

Ah, memories,
Eleven-and-a-half eagles......dick
....and I almost forgot - I invented the internet...

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On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:14:20 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:


Come on, dicklet.....break out of the straight jacket. Dare to be
somebody.
Tell us just one thing.....one teensy little thing.....that you've
actually
done in what we may generously refer to as your life.

Hmmm...lessee...OH! I KNOW! I once got Settlesworth the gin...well,
OK, so I didn't actually HAND it to him, I ordered a maid to do it, but
let me tell you, Mumsie was SO proud...and that's what's missing for
kids today - a parent's pride and sharing in their accomplishments...

Ah, memories,
Eleven-and-a-half eagles......dick
...and I almost forgot - I invented the internet...

Still hilarious when serious and dull as actuary tables when trying to be
funny.

And can't find a new shtick to save what you are pleased to think of as your
soul.

How many people in this group would you guess find this desperate crap
amusing? I mean, YOU don't......so why should anyone else?

Um.....you were going to tell something, something......ANYTHING that you
have actually done in your miserable life.

Wolfgang
who's got a shiny new nickel says he simply CAN'T do it.

On 12/7/05 5:07 PM, in article ,
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If you aren't already familiar with it, you might get ahold of "Idyll of
the Split Bamboo Rod" by George Holden. I'm fairly sure there was at
least one reprint, and should be readily available.

I'm not familiar with it, beyond the mention of Holden in the Garrison book.
We haven't got it, but there is a copy of the original 1920 edition
downtown. The Derrydale edition (current Derrydale) is still available
apparently. Interesting that the original is "Idyl..." while the modern
edition has "corrected" the title to "Idyll..."

Interesting - don't recall that I've never noticed that.

Hey, I'm a trained professional. Don't try this at home. :-)

I'm not sure
where my copy is, and given the situation, it may be gone.

I have some pictures taken by the director of the Tulane library showing the
state of some of their collections. Not pretty. I was actually going to
point to them here on ROFF in an OT post. But then realized that as
devastated as those collections were, they were not people, but books.
Seems kind of trivial in comparison to other things that are now, as you
say, gone. Still and all, hope your copy is high and dry somewhere.

Bill

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On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 13:34:04 -0600, Conan The Librarian
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I was probably not precise enough in my previous statement. You are
not gluing it to the cork on the sides, but rather the cork below the
patch. In woodworking inlays, you don't attempt to glue the edges of
the inlay, you glue it to the substrate. I'm assuming you would do the
same with cork, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Hmmm...first, I've never used, seen, or even heard of a Dutchman used to
repair an inlay, nor do I think it would be an appropriate use, but that
is certainly another of those "YMMV" things.

I'm not saying you use a Dutchman to repair an inlay, I'm saying
that the technique is the same. (A Dutchman *is* an inlay.)

In my experience, a
Dutchman is simply a way to repair/salvage something much larger (a
large, wide plank in a casegood, for example) that merits the handwork
necessary to fit it. And again, in my experience, a Dutchman would be
fully glued, much like a plug.

You "fully glue" an inlay/Dutchman/whatever by gluing it to the
substrate. If you are trying to glue the edges, much of that surface is
endgrain, and attempting to glue endgrain is a waste of time.

That said, given the time and effort to precisely cut the recept in the
handle and the corresponding cork "Dutchman," it would be more an goal
in and of itself rather than a practical repair method.

That's your opinion, and you're welcome to it. Given that logic,
joining casework with dovetails is a goal in and of itself rather than a
practical method of joinery.

And beyond
that, you would be relying on the underlying cork to hold the patch, and
if you didn't glue the edges, I think that would introduce another
weakness in that, unlike the very thin wood inlay where there is no real
edge to hold glue, nor is it necessary, the cork Dutchman would
susceptible to catching and tearing at the edge of the "patch" unless
glued at the edges.

Not if it's sanded flush with the surrounding cork.

Could, for argument's sake, a patch be done by this method? Yeah, sure.
Should it be done? That would be up to the individual, but I don't
think it would be worth it, and I know that it would be completely
unnecessary excess as far as repair goes

Well then, don't do it. Leave it for those who have the necessary
skills/tools/desire.

Heck, you could probably argue for CNC mircocutters with 3D digitizing
input and all sorts of other cool ****, but how many double-naught
rod-building superheroes do you really need to change a lightbulb?

Cute, but hardly relevant, given that I'm advocating an ancient form
of repair that can be accomplished with a minimum of tools.


Chuck Vance

Wayne Knight wrote:

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
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Thanks for the info. My library doesn't have those books, but I'll
make a note of them.

Then it can't be a real library g

It's a *research* library. :-)


Chuck Vance (which simply means we don't have the book you're
looking for in *lots* of subjects)

Conan The Librarian typed:
Wayne Knight wrote:

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
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Thanks for the info. My library doesn't have those books, but
I'll make a note of them.

Then it can't be a real library g

It's a *research* library. :-)

So Wayne is correct. It's just one of those wannabe libraries. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
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"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
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For cuts in the cork, I use a different approach a plug cutter drill
bit to bore the area approx 3/4 the way to rod handle (measure the
distance then transfer the measurement to the drill bit and wrap tape
around the bit for use a stopping guide). Then I use a tenon bit to
drill through the wine cork to make a dowel the same diameter. The
resulting dowel fits in the plug hole, cut it off as close as possible
to the rest of the handle and lightly sand to flush. It can sometimes
be a PITA to get it set but slight twisting helps. In one case I didn't
even need to use any adhesive.

For small divots, I have a set of tools that doctors use to take a bone
marrow biopsy, but it's not something readily available at the local
supply store.

I've done this with three rods so far and two pairs of my wife's
birkenstocks.


I also wear Birkenstocks, the oldest pair of shoes/sandals I ever owned.
They're going on 27 years. They've been recorked 7 times, but I'm sure and
your wife may agree, they're the most comfortable things to put on your
feet.
-tom

Tim J. wrote:

Conan The Librarian typed:

It's a *research* library. :-)

So Wayne is correct. It's just one of those wannabe libraries. ;-)

No, it's a wannabe *university* ... the library is just fine. ;-)


Chuck Vance (that's why we changed our name to "Texas State
University"; we're not just a "directional school" anymore)

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
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"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
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...I've done this with three rods so far and two pairs of my wife's
birkenstocks.


I also wear Birkenstocks, the oldest pair of shoes/sandals I ever owned.
They're going on 27 years. They've been recorked 7 times, but I'm sure and
your wife may agree, they're the most comfortable things to put on your
feet.
-tom


Ah! Now, imagine a hole in the top surface.....where the ball of your foot
makes contact. Would a lump of epoxy be your first choice to fill it? Or
does a patch made of the same material as the original strike you as the
more appropriate candidate?

Wolfgang