five-point political agenda

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:44:41 -0700, "Danl"
wrote:

Hmmmm....if you're paying .50/gallon or more Federal gas tax, you must be
special. The latest figures I can find have the fed gas tax at .184/gallon.
What did I miss, Dave? When did Al Gore increase the Fed gas tax by fifty
cents a gallon?

You're right, I'm wrong. Gore's vote raised it another 4.3 cents in
1993.

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:09:34 -0600, rw
wrote:

Dave isn't part of the reality-based community. He believes whatever he
hears from Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, and O'Reilly.

Better than believing some Brokeback Mountain Faux Cowboy.

I seldom listen to Limbaugh, never to Hannity and Colms, don't know
even if Coulter has a radio/tv show, and O'Reilly is on during prime
time, so I don't watch him, not that it's any of your business, putz.

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:29:38 -0700, wrote:

You are correct, but Dave is correct also. It might work for Brazil,
but at the current efficiency there isn't enough corn/sugar cane/etc
to supply a country like the US.

Many years ago we (the US) gave up on nuclear power. It can be safe
(France gets much of their power from nuclear), yet politicians say
no. These same pols say no to wind power when it's in their state
near their summer palaces. There are numerous ways we can use nature
to suplement our use of fossil fuels, but we will get nowhere with the
Dems/Repubs in both houses. Use of the tides, wind, corn for fuel,
and other alternatives will never happen until it is too late. We
should be building hydro power dams, nuclear reactors, and drilling
for oil where we have yet to drill. Then, and only then, can we be
energy independent. The US is too large a country to expect
conservation to work to any degree. Food has to move from Cal and Fla
to the east and mid-west, people do not live near their employment and
must drive their cars to work. Mass transit is a joke in most places.
Plus, consider all the pick-up trucks/vans, delivery trucks, etc.
doing business in your town. They can't do it on corn.

Conservation would actually work incredibly well in a country like the
US. If Brazil saves 5% of it's energy use, it's peanuts. If the US
saves 5%, it's huge. Agree on nuclear and wind power, but NIMBY is a
tough thing for politicians to fight against.

If we got the people who never drive off paved roads to not drive huge
SUVs, vans and pickup trucks we could save 5% easily. We are lazy.
We bitch about $3/gallon gas while filling up 20+ gallon gas tanks on
oversized cars that get 15 mpg while carrying a lone person to/from
work.

I may not like $3/gallon gas, but it does look like it's making a dent
in people's purchasing choices. Fewer mini-vans that do 0-60 in
racecar speeds. GM and Ford in shock because all their cars suck in
MPG....and people are actually paying attention.

- Ken

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message


Kerry had no new ideas. Period. He said he would remain in Iraq and
Afghanistan. The only difference is that we would now have more
taxes. It would be worse today if Kerry was in office.

Unless you are amazingly psychic, there is no way on Earth that you could
possibly know you last statement is factual.

The economy is going along great with no unemployment, low interest
rates, and low inflation. The market is doing well. No one has
invaded us since 9/11.

No unemployment, at all?

The market is doing well for those with lots of money, but not for a
majority of the working stiffs.

There's not been a major hurricane to hit the U.S. since Rita, but that
doesn't mean there won't be another one in the future. Eight and one half
years separated the first and second WWTC attacks. We are only into the 5th
year after the last. Give'em time Dave, the ports are wide open!

I don't know about you, but I am far better off today than I was eight
years ago, and much safer too.

You may be better-off finacially, but you aren't any safer, unless you know
something that the rest of the world doesn't know about international
terrorism.

Gas prices are high, but they are high worldwide.

They have always been high in many other parts of the world, but low in the
U.S. What's that tell us?

Get the Dems to
allow drilling off of California and Alaska and the price of gas would
go down. Take away the last fed gas tax ($.50/gallon) voted in by Al
Gore when the Senate was dead-locked at 50/50, and your gas would be
alot cheaper.

Exactly how much did 'ol Al raise the tax--it's 18.4 cpg currently. That
amount is neglegible compared to my state's tax of 26.6 cpg
http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp

I don't know about your math, but that would be $12
less a tank where I buy gas.

You either have a 65 gal. gas tank, or your gas station is rippin' you off
big time. I pay $1.84 per fill-up for my 10 gal. tank.

Ya think those folks at WM you are so
concerned about could find something to do with that $12?

Yeah, but fuzzy math gets'wm every time.

If the Dems win in 08, and I hope they do, you will see the tax cuts
cancelled and new taxes across the board. Inflation will go up (and
that is the worse tax for someone on a fixed income - read poor folks)
and the economy will crumble. But fear not. You'll blame that on
Bush.

Well the Dems ain't been in office for the past 6 years and you're still
blamin' them?

If you continue to run bozos like Kerry and Gore, you will *never* win
the WH. And if by chance they *do* win, God help us.

Don't ask him for help, he ain't done anything decent in over 2000 years!

Op

Dave

riverman wrote:
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Stan Gula typed:

riverman wrote:

I'd take NIXON over Bush.

I'd take 6 feet of dirt over Bush.

Now THAT'S funny!

Hopefully.

Oh, come on. The NSA is *known* for its sense of humor....

Dave LaCourse wrote:

The US is too large a country to expect
conservation to work to any degree.

That's the craziest thing you've said today. Conservation would help
enormously in the US precisely BECAUSE we are such large consumers and
we're wasteful.

You conservatives who hate the idea of conservation crack me up.

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Dave LaCourse wrote:

I seldom listen to Limbaugh, never to Hannity and Colms, don't know
even if Coulter has a radio/tv show, and O'Reilly is on during prime
time, so I don't watch him, not that it's any of your business, putz.

Well just where did you hear the fictitious meme about Gore's fifty-cent
gas tax? The same place you heard the lies about Cleland's and Kerry's
war records?

Regardless of whomever you're getting these factoids from, I recommend
that you check them out before you expose your ass in public. It will
save you embarrassment.

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On 24 Apr 2006 22:04:07 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

I guess stagflation doesn't scare you.

Huh? I said I would not like to return to the Carter years.
Stagflation ( a word made-up for that era) meant high inflation,
unemployment, and interest rates. It was unheard of until the Carter
years. No, stagflation DOES scare me, Scott.

Dave LaCourse wrote in
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On 24 Apr 2006 22:04:07 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

I guess stagflation doesn't scare you.

Huh? I said I would not like to return to the Carter years.
Stagflation ( a word made-up for that era) meant high inflation,
unemployment, and interest rates. It was unheard of until the Carter
years. No, stagflation DOES scare me, Scott.




I missed that line about not wanting those years back-- oops!


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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:18:38 +0800, "riverman"
wrote:

Hopefully.

Hopefully it is funny, or hopefully you wish Bush was dead? You can't
*possibly* hate *anyone* that much, can you?



Hummmmmmmmm. Ill have to think about that, Lets see, would I hate him enough
to even make up stories about him faking medals for the wounds if he had had
his legs blown off from falling on a grenade to protect his platoon?
Hummmmmmmm? Would I hate him for letting Ben Ladin go free? Would I hate
him for making my country a State sponsor of torture? Boy, Its a real
quandary. Not.

Dave

Dave