I need help.

"MajorOz" wrote in message
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On Apr 22, 3:04 pm, Halfordian Golfer wrote:
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Try to keep up wolfman.

The "#1 flyfishing city in the world"? No ****? You lived in Gleason?

http://www.fieldandstream.com/articl...ionid=500272D0...

Oh, my Dog; he's from Arkansas.

Well, as places go, Arkansas is right up there on the list.

Take centuries of inbreeding, stir in some federal projects like large
dams, send Orvis catalogues with lots of pictures of fly fishing gear,
hike up the holler to get the sucker gigger to steer your john boat,
advertise to St. Louis, Little Rock, Memphis, Dallas, and Chicago
yuppies with more money than sense. and you will have a fundamentalist
C&R culture.

Or whatever other culture is being shilled. Sounds a lot like places in
America.

Obviously, these interlopers have presented a picture of fly fishing
to the impressionable locals, who think that they represent all
FF'ers. (I say "picturre", as reading is not a normal skill
there'bouts).

Yeah, it ain't likely we'll find anyone there to match your own intellectual
accomplishments. Wouldn't want to hold our breath in the hope of having a
Rhodes Scholar jumping up anywhere out of there, huh?

It is therefore understandable that HG is upset.

No, it is not therefore understandable. It is understandable because he is
deranged. I wouldn't go so far as to state that he represents a clear
danger to himself and the neighbors children......but someone should.

Although he barks B movie platitudes, thinking he is presenting ideas.

and there's a lot of that going around, I hear.

he may have run
across some of these "city fellers" in the john boats.

Hm.....

Leads one to speculate that perhaps folks who spend time somewhere on this
planet might run into all kinds of folks. Thanks for the insight.

Enjoy

More than you'll ever know.

cheers

oz, who lives only about 100 mi. north of there and sometimes fishes
there if I get tired of picking over at Mt. View. -- and, yes, I can
feel my brain withering ever since I moved here.

And we can see it happening from here.

Wolfgang

Halfordian Golfer wrote:

Sorry 'bout that. For me it was probably Thomas McGuane but also, that
one incident I had, that I still can't shake, is that 14" wild trout
that sliced it's gut from stem to stern like it had been cleaned, on
barbed wire or glass, while playing it, that started some serious
introspection that has not waivered an iota since.

Ah, so that's what started you on your long descent into
self-loathing.

You'll have to excuse some of us if we don't join you.

So were you fishing for subsistence when you caught that trout?


Chuck Vance

"Charlie Wilson" wrote in message
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote :
Credit where credit is due, Tim Walker is the most persistent,
dogged, tireless and pertinacious troll ever to start the same
old bull**** for the thousandth time on roff.

If nothing else, (and there is nothing else), the guy has
stick-to-itiveness.

I used to think Tim was a bit of a crackpot until I started reading
the works of Ted Kerasote, who speaks eloquently of respecting the animals
you harvest (and it's not nice to play with your food). I still primarily
practice catch and release fishing, but I don't feel as smug and
self-righteous about it as I used to. Damn you Walker!

Unless timmie steered you to Mr. Kerasote's work, I fail to see the
connection. At the end of the day, if timmie is secretly trying to advance
the C&R agenda, he is truly as brilliant as he is effective.

As for the ethical compromise you allude to, that's what all thinking
individuals have to deal with in all areas of life. timmie (like a good few
others here) is not beset by any ethical conundrums. That speaks volumes.

Wolfgang

C&R regulations are in themselves no more, or less, respectful of the fish than any of our other game laws.

Really? Than why are all pure C&R regulations socially derived and
none of them have actual biological imperatives?

Your pal,

Halfordian Golfer
A cash flow runs through it.
Guilt replaced the creel.
It is impossible to catch and release a wild fish.

Halfordian Golfer wrote:
C&R regulations are in themselves no more, or less, respectful of the fish than any of our other game laws.

Really? Than why are all pure C&R regulations socially derived and
none of them have actual biological imperatives?

You continue to spout the same old lying nonsense even after
you've been directed to fisheries which have biologically
necessary C&R regulations.

Smallmouth bass fishery, Sylvania Wilderness, Michigan.

Now begone troll boy.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On 2008-04-23, Halfordian Golfer wrote:

It is impossible to catch and release a wild fish.

I don't get your drift. What? It becomes domesticated upon leaving your
hand/net?

nb

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:24:31 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Halfordian Golfer wrote:
C&R regulations are in themselves no more, or less, respectful of the fish than any of our other game laws.

Really? Than why are all pure C&R regulations socially derived and
none of them have actual biological imperatives?

You continue to spout the same old lying nonsense even after
you've been directed to fisheries which have biologically
necessary C&R regulations.

Um, why is it "biologically necessary?" Can you direct me to a fishery
run by fish which have mandated such necessity? I mean, if someone can
produce a committee of fish which have OK'd the catching but requested
that their fellow fish are released so as to ensure the population, it
would seem such might carry a lot of weight in the on-going CnR, um,
debate. OTOH, if humans have decided that it "biologically necessary"
so humans can continue to fish for sport (and practice CnR), er, well,
no so much so...

Smallmouth bass fishery, Sylvania Wilderness, Michigan.

See above.

Now begone troll boy.

Which one?

TC,
R

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Halfordian Golfer wrote:
C&R regulations are in themselves no more, or less, respectful of the fish than any of our other game laws.
Really? Than why are all pure C&R regulations socially derived and
none of them have actual biological imperatives?
You continue to spout the same old lying nonsense even after
you've been directed to fisheries which have biologically
necessary C&R regulations.

snip the stupid ****
OTOH, if humans have decided that it "biologically necessary"
so humans can continue to fish for sport (and practice CnR), er, well,
no so much so...

That is precisely why the C&R regulations are biologically
necessary in Sylvania, so that fisherman can fish those lakes
without decimating the smallmouth population. But then you knew
that already and are just posting silly **** to amuse yourself.

Smallmouth bass fishery, Sylvania Wilderness, Michigan.

See above.

Ditto.

Now begone troll boy.

Which one?

Either one or both of you, preferably both.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Apr 23, 9:01 am, notbob wrote:
On 2008-04-23, Halfordian Golfer wrote:

It is impossible to catch and release a wild fish.

I don't get your drift. What? It becomes domesticated upon leaving your
hand/net?

Yes, that's the basic gist. While Tim's one-liner may seem
_practically_ ridiculuous in the caught-one-time limit, the lesson
behind it rings true if you've ever fished heavily C+R'd waters. The
fish _do_ become somewhat domesticated, used to the presence of man,
even to the point of following a wading person around to eat whatever
they kick up. Although such waters can provide interesting and fun
fishing opportunities, they should not be mistaken for fishing for
truly wild fish., such as a mountain stream where the mere sight of
just your rod in the air will send the 8" trout scurrying for cover...

Jon.

Conan The Librarian wrote in news:fune6n$2eu$1
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Ah, so that's what started you on your long descent into
self-loathing.


I thought it was his attempt at the BASS tour.

--
Scott
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