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vote no on barrack hussein obama.....even if he fig's out
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On Nov 4, 12:45*am, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote:
vote no on barrack hussein obama.....even if he fig's out where is was born, of what country he belongs to...... Fear and loathing.... --riverman (BOO!) |
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Granted, it was a 62-28 loss, but we still like Pelini here in
Nebraska. Frank Reid |
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On Nov 3, 10:45*am, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote:
vote no on barrack hussein obama.....even if he fig's out where is was born, of what country he belongs to...... Is McCain a citizen? Hmm, Obama was at least born in the US. McCain was not and the ruling on that has never passed Supreme Court scrutiny. However, being born in the US with at least one US citizen as a parent has. So, do we vote for the American or the Panamanian? Frank Reid |
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On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:24:34 -0800 (PST), Frank Reid © 2008
wrote: On Nov 3, 10:45*am, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote: vote no on barrack hussein obama.....even if he fig's out where is was born, of what country he belongs to...... Is McCain a citizen? Hmm, Obama was at least born in the US. McCain was not and the ruling on that has never passed Supreme Court scrutiny. However, being born in the US with at least one US citizen as a parent has. So, do we vote for the American or the Panamanian? Frank Reid My gawd, Frank. Not you. McCain was born in the Canal Zone, a legitimate part of Panama that belong to the U.S. Besides, he was born to a member of the U.S. Military, so regardless *where* he was born, he is a native born citizen of the U.S. On last count, I don't believe Kenya is part of the U.S., nor is Barrack senior a U.S. Citizen that served in the military. Dave |
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
Frank Reid © 2008 wrote: Is McCain a citizen? Hmm, Obama was at least born in the US. McCain was not and the ruling on that has never passed Supreme Court scrutiny. However, being born in the US with at least one US citizen as a parent has. So, do we vote for the American or the Panamanian? My gawd, Frank. Not you. McCain was born in the Canal Zone, a legitimate part of Panama that belong to the U.S. Besides, he was born to a member of the U.S. Military, so regardless *where* he was born, he is a native born citizen of the U.S. On last count, I don't believe Kenya is part of the U.S., nor is Barrack senior a U.S. Citizen that served in the military. I was born in Landstuhl, Germany to U.S. citizen parents, my dad was an Air Force Sergeant at the time. I have a German birth certificate issued at my birth in 1956 and Naturalization papers from the U.S. State Department issued in 1958. For my entire life, until this McCain thing came up, I have believed myself ineligible for the presidency because I was a Naturalized citizen. My father always believed the same thing. Like Frank said, it's never been put to the test and as usual what you lack in knowledge you make up for with certitude. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:16:16 -0600, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: Like Frank said, it's never been put to the test and as usual what you lack in knowledge you make up for with certitude. Horse caca. He was born in a U.S. possession. If he had been born on Guam, Alaska or Hawaii before they became states, he would be eligible for POTUS. Kenya is NOT part of the U.S. It has been reported that Obama's own fraternal grandmother said he was born in Kenya. And, yes, even you are eligible for POTUS. kaaaaack |
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: Like Frank said, it's never been put to the test and as usual what you lack in knowledge you make up for with certitude. ... It has been reported that Obama's own fraternal grandmother said he was born in Kenya. ... I tried to warn you about wandering around outside without your tin foil hat. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Nov 3, 3:34*pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:16:16 -0600, Ken Fortenberry wrote: Like Frank said, it's never been put to the test and as usual what you lack in knowledge you make up for with certitude. Horse caca. *He was born in a U.S. possession. *If he had been born on Guam, Alaska or Hawaii before they became states, he would be eligible for POTUS. *Kenya is NOT part of the U.S. *It has been reported that Obama's own fraternal grandmother said he was born in Kenya. *And, yes, even you are eligible for POTUS. *kaaaaack Obama was born in Hawaii after it became a state. "It has been reported..." is not good enough. Hell, if we believe the "it has been reported" stuff, then space aliens are frequent overnight guests at the White house. For Obama, there is a Hawiian birth certificate. Works for me until proven in a court otherwise. United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), On the other the other hand, there is still, "tradition" notwithstanding, question on the by birth/naturalization question of those born in protectorates, possessions and of US parents. In regards to the Panama Canal Zone, on July 28, 1904, Controller of the Treasury Robert Tracewell stated, "While the general spirit and purpose of the Constitution is applicable to the zone, that domain is not a part of the United States within the full meaning of the Constitution and laws of the country." So this question has been floundering around for a very long time. It wasn't until 1953 that those born in the Canal Zone were granted citizenship automatically. Mr. McCain was born in '36. The Canal Zone at the time was under "US control." Not a possession or protectorate. I'm not saying that John McCain is not US citizen, I'm just saying that there is more leqal grey area possible in John McCain's citizenship than in Barack Obama's. Frank Reid |
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
snip I was born in Landstuhl, Germany to U.S. citizen parents, my dad was an Air Force Sergeant at the time. I have a German birth certificate issued at my birth in 1956 and Naturalization papers from the U.S. State Department issued in 1958. Oh, gawd! You're not running for office, are you?! Talk about goin' ta hell in a handbasket. -- TL, Tim ------------------------- http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
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