Hauling, Rod-loading.

Dave LaCourse wrote:


And I will accept his word. Sheesh.

I know very little

Dave




Only fools accept things blindly. Unfortunately for you, one cannot buy
either intelligence or common sense.

On Nov 11, 8:20*pm, "
wrote:

Only fools accept things blindly. Unfortunately for you, one cannot buy
either intelligence or common sense.

Somewhere in the files I still have from my prior career, college and
a little study, I could probably post a number of the chemical
reactions involved in having an orgasm. Being a blind fool however-I'd
prefer to accept that when my wife plants a long kiss and grabs my
crotch, good things are probably going to happen sooner than later.

Same with a double-haul, I really don't feel the need to measure
everything, I knows the line is going to deliver a fly some distance
more than a normal cast if I do it right.

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:20:57 +0100, "
wrote:

Only fools accept things blindly. Unfortunately for you, one cannot buy
either intelligence or common sense.

And only BIG fools think they know everything about casting and
fishing. You don't fish, Connor. I do. You don't publish trip
reports. I do. You can bamboozle all you want, but when push comes
to shove, you don't know very much, especially about life and
definitely know little of practical use on fishing.

The short of it, Michael, is that if it feels good, do it. And if it
feels good, you are doing a double haul correctly. And the very
bottom line is that my two oldest grandsons know more about double
hauling and casting than you will ever know. And they were taught
*only* the very basics. The could not care less about the math or the
physics involved.

Oh, yeah, thought you weren't going to answer my posts, and yet......

Daveyboy

Dave LaCourse wrote:

My
grandsons know absolutely nothing about the physics of casting, but I
will guarantee they can out-cast anyone on roff, including all the
"mathematicians". And their double hauls are a thing to behold. Btw,
they aren't very good fly fishers. They sure can cast, however.

Dave



hmmm...ok, i'll choose roger ohlund to be the "anyone on roff", give
each of your grandson's a 5 inch handicap (just to be sporting), and bet
you a trip to sweden he can out-cast them. g

jeff

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:01:57 -0500, jeff miller
wrote:

hmmm...ok, i'll choose roger ohlund to be the "anyone on roff", give
each of your grandson's a 5 inch handicap (just to be sporting), and bet
you a trip to sweden he can out-cast them. g

Hmmmmm. Forgot about Roger. g I was thinking more along the line
of you, the boy lawyer, Fortenberry, et al. You wouldn't take
advantage of an old man, would you........mmmmm, never mind......

d;o)

Scott Seidman wrote in
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I just emailed an expert with at least a half dozen academic articles
on fly casting in journals of sports mechanics and mechanical
engineering, as follows:

"I'm having a little argument about fly rod loading and the double
haul that you might be able to help with, if you have the time. I've
chased down some of your articles, but I can find reference to the
haul. What's the mechanism for the stronger cast? Is it increased
line speed, an improved load on the rod, or are these inseparable.

Thanks for your help. NO PRESSING NEED AT ALL-please don't waste any
valuable time on this."

We'll see what we get back.



Got a very nice reply, but I'm a little hesitant to post it before
seeking permission, as the haul is now an active research path for the
guy and he hasn't published it yet.

It's all bundled up and inseparable, line speed, rod loading, line
tension, etc. As with most things casting, its the acceleration of the
haul that makes the biggest difference.


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Scott
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Scott Seidman wrote:
Scott Seidman wrote:
I just emailed an expert with at least a half dozen academic articles
on fly casting in journals of sports mechanics and mechanical
engineering, as follows:

"I'm having a little argument about fly rod loading and the double
haul that you might be able to help with, if you have the time. I've
chased down some of your articles, but I can find reference to the
haul. What's the mechanism for the stronger cast? Is it increased
line speed, an improved load on the rod, or are these inseparable.

Thanks for your help. NO PRESSING NEED AT ALL-please don't waste any
valuable time on this."

We'll see what we get back.

Got a very nice reply, but I'm a little hesitant to post it before
seeking permission, as the haul is now an active research path for the
guy and he hasn't published it yet.

It's all bundled up and inseparable, line speed, rod loading, line
tension, etc. As with most things casting, its the acceleration of the
haul that makes the biggest difference.

Do you mean to say The Loony's "theories" are loony ?
Preposterous, your guy is obviously a dumbo. ;-)

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Ken Fortenberry