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  #61  
Old November 25th, 2008, 05:35 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry[_2_]
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Bob Weinberger wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Bob Weinberger wrote:
... Yes my saying that your stating that "...we make more money than
you." IMPLIES that you are including yourself in the group that makes
the big bucks is an absolutely outstanding example of my predisposition
to lying, distorting, and micharacterization. ...

Excellent, confession they say is good for the soul. And, finally
we've found common ground.


Well if if I believed you were being serious with that statement rather than
just continuing to proudly uphold your status as an asshole, it would
confirm that those of you who hold themselves to be smarter than most are
seriously deluding themselves and just don't get sarcasm.


Yeah, it's awfully hard to recognize sarcasm when it comes from
swiftboaters. I mean you guys have to practice lying to be that
damn good at it, don't you ?

--
Ken Fortenberry
  #62  
Old November 25th, 2008, 05:51 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
riverman
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On Nov 24, 11:26*pm, Peaceful Bill
wrote:


You didn't answer the question. *What dat6e did the La. gov ask the Feds
to come in?


Fair enough. According to cnn.com (http://tinyurl.com/5pd8rd) and
factcheck.org (http://tinyurl.com/6peqf5) it was on Aug 27, two days
before Katrina hit.

My questions to you:
1) When was the White House and FEMA notified that a hurricane of this
intensity could cause this level of destruction? (and as a
supplement, what did FEMA do about it in advance to prepare the city
for a hurricane of this intensity?)
2) When did FEMA learn of the people stranded in the Convention
Center?
3) When did FEMA learn that the levees had been breached?
4) When did FEMA actually send assistance in?

--riverman
(Who wishes he could be generous enough to claim your posts are merely
partisan.)
  #63  
Old November 25th, 2008, 06:20 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Calif Bill
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
news
Bob Weinberger wrote:
... Yes my saying that your stating that "...we make more money than
you." IMPLIES that you are including yourself in the group that makes
the big bucks is an absolutely outstanding example of my predisposition
to lying, distorting, and micharacterization. ...


Excellent, confession they say is good for the soul. And, finally
we've found common ground.

--
Ken Fortenberry


George Soros has more money than most Republicans. So that shoots your
statement full of holes to start with.


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Old November 25th, 2008, 06:42 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Bob Weinberger[_2_]
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...

Yeah, it's awfully hard to recognize sarcasm when it comes from
swiftboaters. I mean you guys have to practice lying to be that
damn good at it, don't you ?

--
Ken Fortenberry


Oh, lets see if we can follow the logic of your "superior intelligence".

1. You assume that I am a liar (though I defy you to find even one instance
where I oughtright lied. You can find instances where I admitted that my
rememberance of things that happened 30+years ago may be colored by my
disdain for a certain politician, but no instances of outright lying. On the
other hand I can easily find at least one instance where you outright lied
and, despite ample evidence from many sources that you lied, you continue to
repeat that lie.)

2. I make a sarcastic statement , that despite you considering me to be a
liar, you readily accept at face value as a true statement, thus not
recognizing it as sarcasm. After all in the view of you smarter than average
types (at least in your own minds), if the statement happens to fit your
narrow view of the world it must be the truth, even if it comes from someone
you consider to be an inveterate liar.

Yeah that's an excellent example of the flawless logic of "superior
intelligence". And in case you didn't get it that last sentence was
sarcastic.

Bob Weinberger


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Old November 25th, 2008, 12:18 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry[_2_]
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Bob Weinberger wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Yeah, it's awfully hard to recognize sarcasm when it comes from
swiftboaters. I mean you guys have to practice lying to be that
damn good at it, don't you ?


Oh, lets see if we can follow the logic of your "superior intelligence".

1. You assume that I am a liar (though I defy you to find even one instance
where I oughtright lied. You can find instances where I admitted that my
rememberance of things that happened 30+years ago may be colored by my
disdain for a certain politician, but no instances of outright lying.


Instances of colored remembrance ? Oh that's good, real good.
Obviously the work of a practiced prevaricator. LOL !!

--
Ken Fortenberry
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Old November 25th, 2008, 08:35 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Bob Weinberger[_2_]
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Instances of colored remembrance ? Oh that's good, real good.
Obviously the work of a practiced prevaricator. LOL !!

--
Ken Fortenberry


Well as you are the resident expert on prevarication and the practice
thereof, and a shining example of proper application of logic, I guess I
will have to accept your astute analysis and retire from the field bloodied
but unbowed. BTW, feel free to interpret the foregoing as your "superior
intellect" allows.

Bob Weinberger


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Old November 25th, 2008, 08:56 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry[_2_]
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Bob Weinberger wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Instances of colored remembrance ? Oh that's good, real good.
Obviously the work of a practiced prevaricator. LOL !!


Well as you are the resident expert on prevarication and the practice
thereof, and a shining example of proper application of logic, I guess I
will have to accept your astute analysis and retire from the field bloodied
but unbowed.


Your first mistake was in assuming that I was attempting to make
a logical argument. I clearly was not. The facts are the facts,
Obama supporters are better educated and more affluent than the
McCain voters. If you're looking for logic you'll have to supply
your own, my posts to Mr. Jelly on that subject were more of the
"neener, neener, neener" variety than attempts at logical discourse.
You knew that, of course, you were just being a prick.

BTW, feel free to interpret the foregoing as your "superior
intellect" allows.


Obama won and it just frosts your ass. And you're still smarting
because I caught you lying through your teeth and called you and
your swiftboat pals a despicable cancer on our body politic. But
it doesn't take a lot of "intellect" to figure that out.

--
Ken Fortenberry
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Old November 25th, 2008, 09:05 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
DaveS
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On Nov 20, 10:24*am, Peaceful Bill
wrote:
SNIP

You are just one of those folks who cannot admit you've made a
mistake. Here we've got one damn mess and instead of adapting, bozos
like you keep ****ing into the wind, searching and stretching common
sense and twisting new info in some pathetic and endless insistence
that you were right all along and isn't it just like you say it is.

Fact is after a while I avoid folks with your hangup. If I somehow
need a fix of mule-brain I can always dial up Rush or that other
paragon of under-education and duncedom, Glenn whatis. But I will have
to agree with Scott, this last exercise of your's in arguing nonsense
as a recompense for being 100% off the mark regarding history,
Presidential politics, economics etc.. is definitely plonk-able
enough. You remind me of a lawyer wanna-be friend of mine who would
argue every position of an issue just for the hell of it. like it was
as entertaining for others as it was for him. Kinda like the
masterbating zoo monkey.

There are several folks here who I radically disagree with, some who
also advance some of the same bankrupt nonsense as yourself, but their
contributions on the fishing side and on the comradeship side
constitute a worthwhile package of a person. You may be a great guy
in person, but until you come up with some fishing content to balance
out your bull****, I will resist responding to your stuff. Plonk.

Dave
And I will focus more on the fishing side of ROFF
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Old November 25th, 2008, 10:36 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Bob Weinberger[_2_]
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...

Obama won and it just frosts your ass. And you're still smarting
because I caught you lying through your teeth and called you and
your swiftboat pals a despicable cancer on our body politic. But
it doesn't take a lot of "intellect" to figure that out.

--
Ken Fortenberry


No, it no more frosts my ass that Obama won, than if McCain had won. As I
stated earlier, I think that though Obama has a very thin resume, he is
marginally likely to be a better president than McCain would have been. I
frankly supported neither of them. I pray for Obama's welfare because the
thought of Biden as President scares me almost as much as the thought of
Pallin in that position would have.

As for my Swiftboat pals, yes acouple of my exshipmates and pals did serve
with Swiftboats. One earned a Bronze star while on the ship I served with
him and went on to earn a Silver Star while commanding a squadron of
Swiftboats. The other had command of an LST in the Delta that served as a
Swiftboat base. Both served in those capacities during the time Kerry was in
Nam. Both are lifelong Democratic voters. While neither had any specific
memories of events concerning Kerry, neither supported or had anything good
to say about him, and both remembered him as a glory hound who made no
secret of the fact that he was using his service as a vehicle follow in John
Kennedy's footsteps.

Despite my disdain for Kerry I said nothing about him during the campaign
because as much as I disliked him, I thought Bush would make a terrible
president. It was only after he lost, and it became apparent how bad Bush
really was and partisans like you tried to make Kerry out to be a saint,
that I spoke out. It seems that blind partisans like yourself cannot fathom
the concept that just because someone doesn't support one candidate, they
support the other.

your final sentence: that's probably a good thing in your case.

Bob Weinberger


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Old November 25th, 2008, 11:13 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry[_2_]
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Bob Weinberger wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Obama won and it just frosts your ass. And you're still smarting
because I caught you lying through your teeth and called you and
your swiftboat pals a despicable cancer on our body politic. But
it doesn't take a lot of "intellect" to figure that out.

...
Despite my disdain for Kerry I said nothing about him during the campaign
because as much as I disliked him, I thought Bush would make a terrible
president. It was only after he lost, and it became apparent how bad Bush
really was and partisans like you tried to make Kerry out to be a saint,
that I spoke out. It seems that blind partisans like yourself cannot fathom
the concept that just because someone doesn't support one candidate, they
support the other.


That's revisionist crap. Nobody tried to make Kerry out to be a
saint but he didn't deserve, and the country didn't deserve, the
lies, smears and garbage spewed by your well-heeled swiftboat pals.
And you *continue* to spew the same old lies despite being caught
in the act of lying. It wasn't but a few weeks ago you were still
prattling on about Kerry dishonoring a uniform. And *that* is a
ridiculous, stupid lie. There's more "honor" in a big, stinking
pile of John Kerry's **** than in all the ****ing swiftboaters
combined. And as for blind partisanship, I'd say the same damn
thing if a group of scumbags tried to smear John McCain's military
service.

--
Ken Fortenberry
 




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