Bend Over, USA

so, as a member of the "in-group", you too revolt against any club that
would have you as its member (so to speak, of course)

jeff (enjoying his purity as a prick whilst it lasts)

riverman wrote:

"Willi" wrote in message
...


riverman wrote:



But when some total stranger spamming newbie comes in here and starts
soapboxing about something, well, thats when the dolt discovers that the
rules for the locals aren't the rules for the milkman. When a newbie

walks

in the door, they better be talking about fishing. And they damn well

better

be very tender about how they join in on conversations that are OffT for
them, but OnT for the cardholders.




In the past I felt that some people were just waiting for a new person
to make any sort of Roffian faux pas so they could toy with the person.
Your analogy was often used to justify it. IMO, it always seemed
specious especially when paired with the denial that there is an "in
group" here at ROFF.

I do think that the general response toward "newbies" at ROFF has gotten
better. IMO, most of the new people that have gotten blasted here
recently are those that have been assholes.




I've seen both things here, too, Willi: the gleeful pigpile when its time to
play 'Thwap the Newbie' and also the sense that the general response towards
newbies is pretty good. But in almost every case, IIRC, the newbies who are
gently recieved come in with fishing questions, and a definate lack of
attitude. Offhand, I can't remember any newbies who have jumped into
off-topic jousts with strong opinions and won any friends, or have stuck
around long enough to.

The claim that here isn't an 'in-group' is ludicrous. Every usenet group
(except maybe alt.test) has an in-group. The names that appear most
commonly, and those that get the occasional vote of support from a
common-poster, are definately them (they, whatever..) It might be more
accurate to say that there is no well-defined method to make your way into
the in-group, or that there is no flame-protection from being in it. Some
folks seem to slip right in with good timing and intelligent remarks that
are well-recieved. Others gnaw their way in with frequent and unrelenting
posts....I'd even go so far as to say Muskie (and his various aliases) is a
card-carrying member, as we all sure know who he is, although he seems to be
ROM, and I'm not sure he is a flyfisherman. It would be just as strange to
claim that Bruiser, Wolfie, yourself, Cyli, Asadi, Frank, Jeff, Alan, Tim,
Scott, etc etc were NOT some sort of collective in-group. And the assholes
among us (as determined by whatever topic is being bashed around) get
blasted as much as anyone, but the local assholes stick around, while the
newbie assholes go away.

--riverman
(just my opinion. And we know about opinions....)

....and, goin to sleep with a grin is quite...i say quite
indeed...satisfying. goodnight john boy...

jeff

Tim J. wrote:

"Frank Church" wrote...

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

An excerpt:

... Bush's detractors despise him viscerally, as a man. Where
working-class populists see him as a smug, effeminate frat boy who
wouldn't recognize a hard day's work if it kicked him in his
self-satisfied ass, intellectuals see a simian-faced idiot unqualified
to mow his own lawn, much less lead the free world. ...

Lookie here seven iron, I don't even wanna know where that piece of trash
came from,


From the same place as this:
Police in Sandwich, Mass., are so far stumped why Daniel L. Kelleher, 48, was
found covered head-to-toe with roofing tar, lying in a water-filled bathtub in a
room at the Sandwich Motor Lodge on Nov. 11. Kelleher, a carpenter, apparently
purchased the tar and caulking guns, and he had rented the same room a week
earlier and left tar in the bathroom, but he has refused to answer detectives'
questions. [Mashpee (Mass.) Enterprise, 11-14-03]

I want to know what Richard was doing up here in Mass., and why is he calling
himself "Daniel"?


but you and I agree on at least this much...enough of this ****!


Oh, alright, since you two agree and all.

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
y.com...
Frank Church wrote:

Who loves ya baby...

Likewise, you cuddly, old masseuse magnet.

I told Wayne Knight I'd try to get over to the Hoosier State in
the spring so I could drink up some of his scotch. We three can't
be all that far away from each other. Hell, who knows, we may even
decide to fish somewhere. ;-)


the pond in back of my house has some largies in it, come on down.

"Stephen Welsh" wrote in message
...
"Wolfgang" wrote in news:br8f0e$jlfa$1@ID-
205717.news.uni-berlin.de:

John Mitchell

Who dat?


Now ex-coach of the NZ rugby league team. He was roundly blamed for
the shellacking they received in the semi-final of the recent world
cup.

Well, what an astonishing difference 51 minutes can make! Sounds like as
true and stalwart a candidate for the ROFFian pantheon as any. Um......you
might want to warn him though.....the boys are rumored to get a mite testy
long about this time o'year.

Wolfgang
oh, and how does he feel about bush?

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Wolfgang wrote:

Wolfgang
for the love of god, montressor!

You never disappoint me.

Mu

"Jeff Miller" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:G48Cb.1329$hf1.785@lakeread06...
so, as a member of the "in-group", you too revolt against any club that
would have you as its member (so to speak, of course)

jeff (enjoying his purity as a prick whilst it lasts)

riverman wrote:

Yeah, the natives were always revolting!

TL
MC

"Ken Fortenberry" schrieb im
Newsbeitrag y.com...
... Bush's detractors despise him viscerally, as a man. Where
working-class
populists see him as a smug, effeminate frat boy who wouldn't recognize a
hard day's work if it kicked him in his self-satisfied ass, intellectuals
see a simian-faced idiot unqualified to mow his own lawn, much less lead
the free world. ...

--
Ken Fortenberry- ...now enough of this **** ;-)


Oh bloody wonderful! I don´t mind what the daft incompetent ******* does in
your country, or what anybody believes about it, but "lead the free
world?????", you have to be ****ing joking??????????????

Tell me you were not being serious? Pleeeeeease!!!! ?

If somebody wants to stomp on his intestines, I would be one of the last to
protest. ( I would of course protest, because such things are not kosher).
Unfortunately, I would probabyl be far too late, and my protest would likely
be ignored anyway. All this is of course assuming that I gave a **** in the
first place( or for that matter in the last place).

TL
MC

"Frank Church" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
9.11...


...one of the more saner posts I've read lately. ;-)

Babe magnet

Lools like youir server is ****ed as well then!

TL
MC

"slenon" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...


Well gentlemen, you both win, or lose, depending on the particular point of
view. Both intelligent, obviously well educated, and wasting your time
taking the **** out of each other to no good purpose. There are more than
enough dumbos to go around, why take on each other? Of course it may be
intellectually challenging at first, but even this will pale. Shake hands
and come out ...............................?

TL
MC

"Mu Young Lee" wrote in message
td.umich.edu...


You never disappoint me.

Mu

Thus demonstrating that you are a truly unique individual.

Wolfgang