fishin for trout in lakes

so, what's the float tube story? sounds like maybe you were really trying
to get "deep" to the source?

snake

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote

Daisy Mae has tried several personas here and through trial and error
she's concocted one that fools most of the geezers most of the time,
although a couple of those first personas had enough comic potential
and ribald sleaze factor to be WAY more interesting than she is now
as a sweet, naive earth momma.

well, she is sweet, most of the time, and somewhat of an "earth momma",
but she sure as hell is not naive. she is a very, very bright woman who
happens to be entranced by the blue ridge mountains and the places where
trout live. what the **** is wrong with that?

she is a newbie to the sport, and sincerely searches for advice from the
world's greatest ****ing fly fishing newsgroup. she deserves better than
she gets from you, forty. you may recall being introduced to a four foot
wide piece of water, and learning a few things about fishing it. and i
remember fishing penns for the first time, feeling like a hopeless,
clueless, bungling fool. which is very much the truth, up there.

if you were around her for an hour, you would think she was great.
remember that night in the smokies, at the first clave, when we all met for
the first time? that was reality, and it was far better than this piece of
**** newsgroup. why don't you learn from your experiences.

wayno

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote

Daisy Mae has tried several personas here and through trial and error
she's concocted one that fools most of the geezers most of the time,
although a couple of those first personas had enough comic potential
and ribald sleaze factor to be WAY more interesting than she is now
as a sweet, naive earth momma.

well, she is sweet, most of the time, and somewhat of an "earth momma",
but she sure as hell is not naive. she is a very, very bright woman who
happens to be entranced by the blue ridge mountains and the places where
trout live. what the **** is wrong with that?

she is a newbie to the sport, and sincerely searches for advice from the
world's greatest ****ing fly fishing newsgroup. she deserves better than
she gets from you, forty. you may recall being introduced to a four foot
wide piece of water, and learning a few things about fishing it. and i
remember fishing penns for the first time, feeling like a hopeless,
clueless, bungling fool. which is very much the truth, up there.

if you were around her for an hour, you would think she was great.
remember that night in the smokies, at the first clave, when we all met for
the first time? that was reality, and it was far better than this piece of
**** newsgroup. why don't you learn from your experiences.

wayno

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I'd never read this post before Frank. Yo could easily give Pat McManis a
run for his money! I can't wait 'til you begin writin' fro a profession.

Mark

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I'd never read this post before Frank. Yo could easily give Pat McManis a
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Mark

wrote in message
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Aw...well, look at all the earnest replies - ain't it all just sweeter
than a bottle of creme de menthe at front-row seats of the Hillary Duff
concert at Holly Hobbie Land, with whipped cream and sugar on top.

That's right dickie dean. Earnest replies! Not the Ernest T. Bass crap
that you post because if truth be know, you don't actually flyfish. Sure,
anyone can claim of going to Colorado to flyfish, but I don't by it. No you
are here merely to post your childish gibberish. Much like you mentor
Kenny, you have to be center of attention and if you aren't front and
center? you attack a decent individual.

Mark

wrote in message
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Aw...well, look at all the earnest replies - ain't it all just sweeter
than a bottle of creme de menthe at front-row seats of the Hillary Duff
concert at Holly Hobbie Land, with whipped cream and sugar on top.

That's right dickie dean. Earnest replies! Not the Ernest T. Bass crap
that you post because if truth be know, you don't actually flyfish. Sure,
anyone can claim of going to Colorado to flyfish, but I don't by it. No you
are here merely to post your childish gibberish. Much like you mentor
Kenny, you have to be center of attention and if you aren't front and
center? you attack a decent individual.

Mark

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:38:05 -0400, "Mark H. Bowen"
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wrote in message
.. .
Aw...well, look at all the earnest replies - ain't it all just sweeter
than a bottle of creme de menthe at front-row seats of the Hillary Duff
concert at Holly Hobbie Land, with whipped cream and sugar on top.

That's right dickie dean. Earnest replies! Not the Ernest T. Bass crap
that you post because if truth be know, you don't actually flyfish. Sure,
anyone can claim of going to Colorado to flyfish, but I don't by it. No you
are here merely to post your childish gibberish. Much like you mentor
Kenny, you have to be center of attention and if you aren't front and
center? you attack a decent individual.

Er, wrong on all counts. I didn't "attack a decent individual"
(assuming you mean "snake"), I jokingly suggested you two take your
wooin' and cooin' to email (and plainly called it net nanny shtick), and
made the serious suggestion about trimming replies. You then told me to
**** off, and "snake" replied with a smart-assed reply. All fair
enough, but I'll treat you and "snake" just as I would anyone else, male
or female - you'll receive what you give. And if you don't like any or
all of it, YOU can **** off...in fact, even if you do like it all, you
can **** off, AFAIAC...

And as to fishing, I suspect I've done more fishing, fly and otherwise,
and from an earlier age, then you and many others here, but like most
other things, I don't feel the slightest need to prove it to you or
anyone else.

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:38:05 -0400, "Mark H. Bowen"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
Aw...well, look at all the earnest replies - ain't it all just sweeter
than a bottle of creme de menthe at front-row seats of the Hillary Duff
concert at Holly Hobbie Land, with whipped cream and sugar on top.

That's right dickie dean. Earnest replies! Not the Ernest T. Bass crap
that you post because if truth be know, you don't actually flyfish. Sure,
anyone can claim of going to Colorado to flyfish, but I don't by it. No you
are here merely to post your childish gibberish. Much like you mentor
Kenny, you have to be center of attention and if you aren't front and
center? you attack a decent individual.

Er, wrong on all counts. I didn't "attack a decent individual"
(assuming you mean "snake"), I jokingly suggested you two take your
wooin' and cooin' to email (and plainly called it net nanny shtick), and
made the serious suggestion about trimming replies. You then told me to
**** off, and "snake" replied with a smart-assed reply. All fair
enough, but I'll treat you and "snake" just as I would anyone else, male
or female - you'll receive what you give. And if you don't like any or
all of it, YOU can **** off...in fact, even if you do like it all, you
can **** off, AFAIAC...

And as to fishing, I suspect I've done more fishing, fly and otherwise,
and from an earlier age, then you and many others here, but like most
other things, I don't feel the slightest need to prove it to you or
anyone else.

I'm no really familiar with the Chan/Morris book but have read many articles
by Chan and what he writes is worthwhile. Also look to books by Jack Shaw
and Phil Rowley who both hail from the Kamloops area of BC which is a major
stillwater centre. Shaw - who passed away a couple of years ago, was known
as an innovator and master angler for over 40 years.

The "Kamloops" book by Steve Raymond is also worthwhile.

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"Padishar Creel" wrote in message
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Brian Chan is considered, by many, as the authority on stillwater fly
fishing. He and Skip Morris wrote, "Fly Fishing Trout Lakes" and I have
read it and learned a great deal. Also, "Strategies for Stillwater" by
Dave
Hughes comes highly recommended as well.

chris

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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
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yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i
with
my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his
first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout
in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler



It is somewhat different to fish a lake than river. The biggest
difference
is that the lake is relative featureless. In a river you easily see
pools,
riffles and flats etc. Trout in lakes tend to concentrate in certain
areas
just as in rivers; shoals, sunken islands, drop offs, creek inlets,
spring
holes, treed shorelines etc. Many who fish a new lake for the 1st time
find
the drop off between shoreline shoals and deep water then 360 the lake
trolling a basic fly like a wooly bugger, a leech or a scud. This will
usually locate fish. Then concentrate on those areas.

The forage for trout in lakes is usally a bit different as well. In
general
midges, scuds, damsel nymphs and dragons are important, caddis less so
and
stone flies all but absent. If I don't know what food predominates I
use
a
smaller wooly bugger (#10) in olive if the lake has lots of weed and in
black or brown if the bottom is mud. If I catch a fish I'll sample it's
stomach contentrs either by autopsy or with a stomach pump.

A third consideration for lakes is stratification. The water stratifies
by
temperature. When surface temps exceed 65 degrees trout will not feed on
shoals or close to the surface. In summer ideal temps may be 30 feet
down.
Time to get out Type 3,4 or even type 6 full sinking lines.

Some years a go Randall Kaufman published a good book on lake fishing. I
think it's still in print.