Releasing a shark from a beach

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"Marcel K Haesok" wrote in message
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As yet I haven't had the experience of the said adventure.
The other day I caught a shark from the beach and it was about twenty five
pounds. And
the thought occurred to me what would I do if much bigger shark was
caught.
Then I read somewhere that in order to release a fish in general, you
ought
not to play it too long, otherwise the fish will
not revive; hence the article's recommended use of heavier tackle than
lighter tackle.
Thus penn 80 would result in 'quicker' release than penn 50. That's what I
meant when I was pipe-dreaming about 250lb shark.
But TC may be right, I may tire out myself before him with whatever tackle
I
use----

By the way, someone told me that it's not derigeur for a fisherman to pass
on his rod to another fisherman---- that when you
cannot handle a fish you ought to admit defeat and release him right
away----
My friends' opinions were devided on this but I rather agree with it.

Cheers.

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On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:14:12 -0700, "Marcel K Haesok"
wrote:

Hi all,
Suppose I were to beach a 250lb shark, how do I release the hook
from
his mouse without endangering myself?
This is supposing that I have used something like Penn 80 and
quickly
have beached him without tiring him out.

The thought of "quickly beaching" a 250 pound shark is amusing.


Cheers

Marcel K Haesok wrote:

As yet I haven't had the experience of the said adventure.
The other day I caught a shark from the beach and it was about twenty
five pounds. And
the thought occurred to me what would I do if much bigger shark was
caught. Then I read somewhere that in order to release a fish in
general, you ought not to play it too long, otherwise the fish will
not revive; hence the article's recommended use of heavier tackle than
lighter tackle.
Thus penn 80 would result in 'quicker' release than penn 50. That's
what I meant when I was pipe-dreaming about 250lb shark.
But TC may be right, I may tire out myself before him with whatever
tackle I use----

By the way, someone told me that it's not derigeur for a fisherman to
pass on his rod to another fisherman---- that when you
cannot handle a fish you ought to admit defeat and release him right
away----
My friends' opinions were devided on this but I rather agree with it.

Cheers.

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:14:12 -0700, "Marcel K Haesok"
wrote:

Hi all,
Suppose I were to beach a 250lb shark, how do I release the
hook from his mouse without endangering myself?
This is supposing that I have used something like Penn 80 and
quickly have beached him without tiring him out.

The thought of "quickly beaching" a 250 pound shark is amusing.


Cheers



There is tackle out there that is designed to "disolve". Thus, if you
must leave a hook in the mouth, the animal will only have to endure it
for a little while. Cutting the leader (sp) may not be a bad option.
I have not used this type of tackle so I cannot really comment any
further.

I can't seem to concentrate on my work because of this shark---
My head is whirling around how I should rig up the set up---

1. First a dead salami on two good hooks with snell knot on ---
2. either 5 yard 300 lb wire leader or Fluorocarbon ( to counter shark-skin
abrasion), connected to---
3. 230 lb spro swivel, (on which the 8 ounce slip sinker sits) connected to
4. (since I detest fat profile of knots) one foot 200 lb power pro with
Albright knot; connected to---
5. twenty yards of 200 lb monofilament with albright knot again; connectedt
to
6. one foot power pro again, connected to
7. 100 yards of 100 lb mono, connected to
8. 800 yards of 150 lb power pro.

I may be overdoing it, or may have gotten the length wrong
somewhere..........


"Marcel K Haesok" wrote in message
...
As yet I haven't had the experience of the said adventure.
The other day I caught a shark from the beach and it was about twenty five
pounds. And
the thought occurred to me what would I do if much bigger shark was
caught.
Then I read somewhere that in order to release a fish in general, you
ought
not to play it too long, otherwise the fish will
not revive; hence the article's recommended use of heavier tackle than
lighter tackle.
Thus penn 80 would result in 'quicker' release than penn 50. That's what I
meant when I was pipe-dreaming about 250lb shark.
But TC may be right, I may tire out myself before him with whatever tackle
I
use----

By the way, someone told me that it's not derigeur for a fisherman to pass
on his rod to another fisherman---- that when you
cannot handle a fish you ought to admit defeat and release him right
away----
My friends' opinions were devided on this but I rather agree with it.

Cheers.

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:14:12 -0700, "Marcel K Haesok"
wrote:

Hi all,
Suppose I were to beach a 250lb shark, how do I release the hook
from
his mouse without endangering myself?
This is supposing that I have used something like Penn 80 and
quickly
have beached him without tiring him out.

The thought of "quickly beaching" a 250 pound shark is amusing.


Cheers

Marcel wrote:

I can't seem to concentrate on my work because of this shark---
My head is whirling around how I should rig up the set up---

1. First a dead salami on two good hooks with snell knot on ---
2. either 5 yard 300 lb wire leader or Fluorocarbon ( to counter shark-skin
abrasion), connected to---
3. 230 lb spro swivel, (on which the 8 ounce slip sinker sits) connected to
4. (since I detest fat profile of knots) one foot 200 lb power pro with
Albright knot; connected to---
5. twenty yards of 200 lb monofilament with albright knot again; connectedt
to
6. one foot power pro again, connected to
7. 100 yards of 100 lb mono, connected to
8. 800 yards of 150 lb power pro.

I may be overdoing it, or may have gotten the length wrong
somewhere..........

Your Big time overdoing it, you can land a 1200# great white with that rig

9/0 Mustad,, single hook
I use two feet of single strand 100# SS
then 30 feet of 100# Spectra (shock leader)
Then 600 yds of 20# Mono

I've caught sharks up to 500# from the beach with that set up, I have
never been cut or broke off

I use 3 to 5 Oz egg weight, (just enough to hold the bait in place) and
can throw this rig way out, from my 12 foot custom rod
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Marcel wrote:

I can't seem to concentrate on my work because of this shark---
My head is whirling around how I should rig up the set up---

1. First a dead salami on two good hooks with snell knot on ---
2. either 5 yard 300 lb wire leader or Fluorocarbon ( to counter shark-skin
abrasion), connected to---
3. 230 lb spro swivel, (on which the 8 ounce slip sinker sits) connected to
4. (since I detest fat profile of knots) one foot 200 lb power pro with
Albright knot; connected to---
5. twenty yards of 200 lb monofilament with albright knot again; connectedt
to
6. one foot power pro again, connected to
7. 100 yards of 100 lb mono, connected to
8. 800 yards of 150 lb power pro.

I may be overdoing it, or may have gotten the length wrong
somewhere..........

Your Big time overdoing it, you can land a 1200# great white with that rig

9/0 Mustad,, single hook
I use two feet of single strand 100# SS
then 30 feet of 100# Spectra (shock leader)
Then 600 yds of 20# Mono

I've caught sharks up to 500# from the beach with that set up, I have
never been cut or broke off

I use 3 to 5 Oz egg weight, (just enough to hold the bait in place) and
can throw this rig way out, from my 12 foot custom rod
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

It just bowls me over why would a 1000 lb shark nibble at a tiny fly.


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Shark Fishers Might Be Interested In This Upcoming Event...

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Twenty Third Annual Great White Shark Fly fishing Tournament

PORT LINCOLN, AUSTRALIA - Deep Action Tours, Inc. of Los Angeles,
U.S.A. is once again sponsoring the Annual Great White Shark
Fly fishing Tournament in Port Lincoln, on the southwestern coast of
Australia. This area is renowned for its relatively numerous white
shark population, and was the site of the two previous annual
tournaments.

Last year's anglers will, with a few exceptions, all be participating
again this year, along with a slew of rookies attracted to this
ultimate test of fly-fishing skill. The waters off Port Lincoln
provide an ideal location for this event. A deep channel runs between
an outer and an inner reef. The outer reef provides a breakwater for
ocean waves, the channel is patrolled by hungry "white pointers"
attracted by several days of chumming, and the calm inner reef
provides relatively secure footing for heavily booted, wading
fly-fishermen fishing the channel. At low tide, the depth of water
over the inner reef is often less than a foot, providing fisherman
some protection from angry but large sharks. Extra tough boots are
necessary to protect feet from slippery and sharp coral.

Bob Turgann, last year's winner of the tournament, was surprisingly
open about his winning fishing tactics. His catch, a 952-pounder, was
taken on a No. 14 Midge fly, with some slight peacock hackle added to
provide extra sparkle. Mr. Turgann's secret? "I have consistently
caught sharks, and especially the cagey great whites, on a very long,
very light monofilament tapered leader, ending in two-pound test at
the tippet," says Mr. Turgann. "Many people think you need a metal
leader, but it's just not true. A two-pound leader is thin enough to
slip between the shark's teeth, way down in the gum, and not get cut."
Mr. Turgann stated that it took him approximately six days to land his
winning fish. "1500 yards of backing is an absolute minimum," he says.
"Those big sharks can really run if they want to."

The runner-up, Carlos Lopez, landed an 822-pound fish using a No. 16
Gordon Quill and a weight-forward floating fly line. Mr. Lopez agrees
that monofilament leaders are the way to go. "I've seen a lot of guys
using steel leaders out here, but they just don't cast well," he says.
"They make a big splash and can spook the fish, and of course, try
fishing a small dry fly with a steel leader! It's not going to
happen." The experts all seem to agree that dry flies take the
most great whites. "Bucktails are sometimes successful, with an
occasional nymph, but dry flies produce the most consistently," says
Mr. Lopez.

The entry fee for this event is $250, half of which goes toward
conservation efforts to protect the great white shark, which is in
danger of extinction according to experts. A strict catch-and-release
policy is followed, something which makes Mr. Turgann a little uneasy.

"Somewhere out there in the sea is a thousand-pound great white shark
that has a grudge against me", he jokes. The prize? $500, and the
fame that comes with landing Nature's second-greatest predator on
fly-fishing tackle. Second-greatest? For the year 2005, Deep Action
Tours has something special planned: the First Annual Killer Whale
Cane-Pole Fishing Tournament. Mr. Turgann plans to be there.

***

It just bowls me over why would a 1000 lb shark nibble at a tiny fly.


wrote in message
...
Shark Fishers Might Be Interested In This Upcoming Event...

***

Twenty Third Annual Great White Shark Fly fishing Tournament

PORT LINCOLN, AUSTRALIA - Deep Action Tours, Inc. of Los Angeles,
U.S.A. is once again sponsoring the Annual Great White Shark
Fly fishing Tournament in Port Lincoln, on the southwestern coast of
Australia. This area is renowned for its relatively numerous white
shark population, and was the site of the two previous annual
tournaments.

Last year's anglers will, with a few exceptions, all be participating
again this year, along with a slew of rookies attracted to this
ultimate test of fly-fishing skill. The waters off Port Lincoln
provide an ideal location for this event. A deep channel runs between
an outer and an inner reef. The outer reef provides a breakwater for
ocean waves, the channel is patrolled by hungry "white pointers"
attracted by several days of chumming, and the calm inner reef
provides relatively secure footing for heavily booted, wading
fly-fishermen fishing the channel. At low tide, the depth of water
over the inner reef is often less than a foot, providing fisherman
some protection from angry but large sharks. Extra tough boots are
necessary to protect feet from slippery and sharp coral.

Bob Turgann, last year's winner of the tournament, was surprisingly
open about his winning fishing tactics. His catch, a 952-pounder, was
taken on a No. 14 Midge fly, with some slight peacock hackle added to
provide extra sparkle. Mr. Turgann's secret? "I have consistently
caught sharks, and especially the cagey great whites, on a very long,
very light monofilament tapered leader, ending in two-pound test at
the tippet," says Mr. Turgann. "Many people think you need a metal
leader, but it's just not true. A two-pound leader is thin enough to
slip between the shark's teeth, way down in the gum, and not get cut."
Mr. Turgann stated that it took him approximately six days to land his
winning fish. "1500 yards of backing is an absolute minimum," he says.
"Those big sharks can really run if they want to."

The runner-up, Carlos Lopez, landed an 822-pound fish using a No. 16
Gordon Quill and a weight-forward floating fly line. Mr. Lopez agrees
that monofilament leaders are the way to go. "I've seen a lot of guys
using steel leaders out here, but they just don't cast well," he says.
"They make a big splash and can spook the fish, and of course, try
fishing a small dry fly with a steel leader! It's not going to
happen." The experts all seem to agree that dry flies take the
most great whites. "Bucktails are sometimes successful, with an
occasional nymph, but dry flies produce the most consistently," says
Mr. Lopez.

The entry fee for this event is $250, half of which goes toward
conservation efforts to protect the great white shark, which is in
danger of extinction according to experts. A strict catch-and-release
policy is followed, something which makes Mr. Turgann a little uneasy.

"Somewhere out there in the sea is a thousand-pound great white shark
that has a grudge against me", he jokes. The prize? $500, and the
fame that comes with landing Nature's second-greatest predator on
fly-fishing tackle. Second-greatest? For the year 2005, Deep Action
Tours has something special planned: the First Annual Killer Whale
Cane-Pole Fishing Tournament. Mr. Turgann plans to be there.

***

D'oh. Kerry's a damned good shot with a shotgun. There's no way you can
shoot as well as he does without practice.
And what do you base that on? I'm assuming you've been to the range
with him? Where do you find the time with all the political posts you
make?

And what do you base that on? I'm assuming you've been to the range
with him? Where do you find the time with all the political posts you
make?

Two first-hand reports from friends who have gone trap shooting with him.

Sorry Harry - I'd have to see it to believe it. Based on his voting
record and firearms related comments he's made I think his only recent
association with firearms are photo ops.

And what do you base that on? I'm assuming you've been to the range
with him? Where do you find the time with all the political posts you
make?

Two first-hand reports from friends who have gone trap shooting with him.

Sorry Harry - I'd have to see it to believe it. Based on his voting
record and firearms related comments he's made I think his only recent
association with firearms are photo ops.