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Old March 17th, 2009, 07:05 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
DaveS
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Default River flow data systems and availability

I use 2 sources for river flow data. the first is the Federal USGA.
Its coverage is backed by a long archive, but little fine grain
coverage of smaller rivers and tribs. The Feds also do a neat
forecast.

http://waterdata.usgs.gov/wa/nwis/current/?type=flow

My second source is the Washington State Dept of Ecology flow
monitoring network.

https://fortress.wa.gov/ecy/wrx/wrx/...ions/state.asp

The best stuff comes from the automated 112 systems that use telemetry
to post 15 minute apart readings of CFS, water and air temps, to the
State DOE web site.

Flood warning seems to be a significant factor in allocation, and
deployment pattern of the stations.

Whats the arrangement, availability etc of river flow data in other
states? On line? graphic? etc.
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Old March 17th, 2009, 01:54 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default River flow data systems and availability

DaveS wrote:
I use 2 sources for river flow data. the first is the Federal USGA.
Its coverage is backed by a long archive, but little fine grain
coverage of smaller rivers and tribs. The Feds also do a neat
forecast.

http://waterdata.usgs.gov/wa/nwis/current/?type=flow

My second source is the Washington State Dept of Ecology flow
monitoring network.

https://fortress.wa.gov/ecy/wrx/wrx/...ions/state.asp

The best stuff comes from the automated 112 systems that use telemetry
to post 15 minute apart readings of CFS, water and air temps, to the
State DOE web site.

Flood warning seems to be a significant factor in allocation, and
deployment pattern of the stations.

Whats the arrangement, availability etc of river flow data in other
states? On line? graphic? etc.



This particular link is for the TVA site displaying generation and flow
information for the Caney Fork. From the drop down menu, flow
information from other TVA managed streams can be selected.

http://lakeinfo.tva.gov/htbin/lakein...bmit=View+info


CoE generation and tailwater flow information from the White River chain
is available he

http://www.swl-wc.usace.army.mil/real_time_data.htm


Kenai temp and visibility info is here (when the site is updated):

http://www.alaskaoutdoorjournal.com/Sonar/krsecchi.html

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Old March 17th, 2009, 02:54 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default River flow data systems and availability

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:05:06 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:

I use 2 sources for river flow data. the first is the Federal USGA.
Its coverage is backed by a long archive, but little fine grain
coverage of smaller rivers and tribs. The Feds also do a neat
forecast.

http://waterdata.usgs.gov/wa/nwis/current/?type=flow

My second source is the Washington State Dept of Ecology flow
monitoring network.

https://fortress.wa.gov/ecy/wrx/wrx/...ions/state.asp

The best stuff comes from the automated 112 systems that use telemetry
to post 15 minute apart readings of CFS, water and air temps, to the
State DOE web site.

Flood warning seems to be a significant factor in allocation, and
deployment pattern of the stations.

Whats the arrangement, availability etc of river flow data in other
states? On line? graphic? etc.


I once tripped over a "gathered" site that had all sorts of river, close
offshore and weather info from all over the US. It's been 3-5 years ago, but
best as I recall, it was mostly government info, but for some reason, I don't
recall for certain if it was a gov site (I don't think it was - I think it was
an "amateur" "labor of love" type of site, but ???) and I was either looking for
offshore buoy info or river info for canoeist/kayakers. I don't have time to
search for it right now, but if you do...

If I have time in the next couple of days, I'll try to find it (given the
changes in the 'net, it might not exist anymore, it may have gone "commercial,"
or ???) and post a link.

FWIW, I now generally turn to "www.wunderground.com" for local weather and
quick-n-basic "out front" info like buoys, but I don't know what they might
have, on- or off-site, for river info.

HTH,
R
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Old March 17th, 2009, 08:35 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default River flow data systems and availability

On Mar 17, 9:54*am, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:05:06 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:
I use 2 sources for river flow data. the first is the Federal USGA.
Its coverage is backed by a long archive, but little fine grain
coverage of smaller rivers and tribs. The Feds also do a neat
forecast.


http://waterdata.usgs.gov/wa/nwis/current/?type=flow


My second source is the Washington State Dept of Ecology flow
monitoring network.


https://fortress.wa.gov/ecy/wrx/wrx/...ions/state.asp


The best stuff comes from the automated 112 systems that use telemetry
to post 15 minute apart readings of CFS, water and air temps, to the
State DOE web site.


Flood warning seems to be a significant factor in allocation, and
deployment pattern of the stations.


Whats the arrangement, availability etc of river flow data in other
states? On line? graphic? etc.


I once tripped over a "gathered" site that had all sorts of river, close
offshore and weather info from all over the US. *It's been 3-5 years ago, but
best as I recall, it was mostly government info, but for some reason, I don't
recall for certain if it was a gov site (I don't think it was - I think it was
an "amateur" "labor of love" type of site, but ???) and I was either looking for
offshore buoy info or river info for canoeist/kayakers. *I don't have time to
search for it right now, but if you do...

If I have time in the next couple of days, I'll try to find it (given the
changes in the 'net, it might not exist anymore, it may have gone "commercial,"
or ???) and post a link.

FWIW, I now generally turn to "www.wunderground.com" for local weather and
quick-n-basic "out front" info like buoys, but I don't know what they might
have, on- or off-site, for river info.

HTH,
R


We use the USGS for our flow data and its pretty extensive for
Missouri anyhow. The link we use is http://waterdata.usgs.gov

If we are worried how a heavy rain might have affected stream levels,
we take a look before departure. It of course doesn't give anything
definitive on clarity, but if you have fished a stream under various
conditions, you kinda' know what it'll be like when water's up and a
certain time after the rain has quit.

For new streams we are curious about, if all I can get is a fish per
mile number, and I can compare to the cfs for the stream, it also
yields some interesting info. Not the final word, but it helps. If
there are supposedly 500 fish per mile in a 300 cfs stream and 500
fish per mile in a 1000 cfs stream, all other things held equal,
there's a higher density in the first...right?
________
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Old March 17th, 2009, 09:07 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Larry L
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Default River flow data systems and availability


"DaveS" wrote

of river flow data etc.



I sometimes drive over and see which rocks are exposed


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Old March 17th, 2009, 09:39 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Mar 17, 2:07*pm, "Larry L" wrote:
"DaveS" wrote

of river flow data *etc.


I sometimes drive over and see which rocks are exposed


I think that works, but sometimes it's nice to know if a big lump of
water is on its way down.
Dave
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Old March 17th, 2009, 09:46 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default River flow data systems and availability

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:05:06 -0700 (PDT), DaveS
wrote:

Flood warning seems to be a significant factor in allocation, and
deployment pattern of the stations.

Whats the arrangement, availability etc of river flow data in other
states? On line? graphic? etc.



I haven't seen anything better than the USGS data and I always consult
their site before I fish a stream. Oddly enough I was reading just
last night about New York City's plans to close some of the gauge
sites in the Catskills to reduce costs.
http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbc...130364/-1/NEWS
Dam the rivers, take their water, now shut down gauge stations heavily
relied upon for safety as well as recreation. A tough deal for those
folks.

Kiyu
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Old March 17th, 2009, 11:56 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Larry L
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Default River flow data systems and availability


"DaveS" wrote

I think that works, but sometimes it's nice to know if a big lump of
water is on its way down.
Dave


G Here is a sample of what I look at here in ArnoldLand .... this is
my 'home' water I guess I should make some note of what numbers
coincide with which rock exposures, but I haven't thus far ;-)
Traveling, I usually call shop's found to be honest and ask about
conditions.

http://cdec2.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryFx?obb



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Old March 18th, 2009, 12:42 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Larry L
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"DaveS" wrote

I think that works, but sometimes it's nice to know if a big lump of
water is on its way down.



It just dawned on me that you've had real flooding problems, and I see on
the news that you have more rain coming.

I didn't mean to make light of that situation, with my 'what rocks are
showing' comment


 




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