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  #1  
Old October 13th, 2003, 01:21 AM
Bob La Londe
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I threw some top water yesterday morning and caught a few short. One might
have been a keeper, but I didn't have a rule in the boat so I tossed it
back. I didn't want to risk weighing in a short fish.

Like I said I fished mostly topwater. In one spot I had three hits on my
favorite Cabelas Real Image in baby bass pattern, but I just couldn't seem
to hook up. I tossed a weightless texas rigged Mesa Salt Stick worm. I
hooked up a little nine incher immediately on it. I think it was just a
matter of throwing a falling bait to a spot where a bass had just tried to
kill a minnow (my topwater) on the surface.

A few minutes later I caught my maybe 13 incher.

That was it for the day. They just developed lock jaw, so I headed for the
back waters figuring I could atleast catch some small keepers sight fishing
the channels and the standing timber int he back lakes.

Wow! Nothing. I saw very few fish in the channels, and those were all very
spooky. I never even saw a fish in the standing timber. In fact the only
decent fish I saw all day was a five pounder that ignored me in some shallow
reeds.

There was a little breeze, so I tried spinner baits off and on. Both large
ones and small ones in bleeding shad and baby bass patterns along with a
Ninja Spin three blade just to see if that obnoxious beast could provoke a
strike.

I tried smaller 6" Zoom auger tails on 6 lb diameter mono. In semi open
trees and even in the heavy weeds. I tried some large jigs with various
trailers in various colors in heavier brush. I even spent some time on one
of the bigger channels pitching the really heavy stuff. Nothing.

I weighed in zero fish.

On the other hand I did nail my first fish on a follow up technique I
learned here using on of Gilbert's worms.

About the only thing I didn't try were crank baits, small in-line spinners,
and drop shotting. There is so much weed growth here there are few places I
feel comfortable using those tangle ups, although I like to throw them in
the winter after the weed growth dies back.

Out of 21 teams there were 12 limits weighed in, and the big fish winner was
4.0 pounds. One guy complained that the poor bite was due to the fukll
moon. I might go for that. My bite died just as the sun got full up. I
have to admit I wasted almost an hour of my pre sunrise time rewiring my
trolling motor to work around a broken battery switch. I took the switch
out and wired the batteries directly to the motor using a roll of tape and a
fillet knife. I definitely need to remember to put a few basic tools in the
boat. I had a whole box of small stuff in the Skeeter including spare
switches and electrical connectors. I'll have to find that.


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Old October 13th, 2003, 03:30 AM
Craig
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Bob,

I am confused. Your title indicated a review of Mesa Tackle products. What
I read was story of an outing you had where you use one of Mesa Tackles
lures, for one cast, and caught a fish. Hell you didn't even credit the
lure with the catch, indicating you felt any plastic lure would have done
the trick. Go use those puppies on a few more outings where they are your
primary lures, then come back and tell us what you liked and disliked about
them. Tell me why I should or should not buy them. Score them on a scale
of 1 to 10 on Quality, effectiveness, price, etc. I would love to hear an
unbiased opinion.

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Old October 13th, 2003, 03:54 AM
Bob La Londe
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"Craig" wrote in message
news
Bob,

I am confused. Your title indicated a review of Mesa Tackle products.
What
I read was story of an outing you had where you use one of Mesa Tackles
lures, for one cast, and caught a fish. Hell you didn't even credit the
lure with the catch, indicating you felt any plastic lure would have done
the trick. Go use those puppies on a few more outings where they are your
primary lures, then come back and tell us what you liked and disliked

about
them. Tell me why I should or should not buy them. Score them on a scale
of 1 to 10 on Quality, effectiveness, price, etc. I would love to hear an
unbiased opinion.

Craig Baugher


Well, it was the first time I used them, and you are probably right. Any
jerk bait would probably have caught that fish. I guess my only comment on
the whole thing was if anything the Mesa Tackle stuff did not catch fish
when nothing else would either.

They may be great plastics, but they didn't draw fish out of the brush on a
tough day. I threw craws, jig trailers, and worms by Mesa Tackle. One of
the two fish I caught was on a Mesa Tackle plastic.

I didn't try the drop shot stuff though. I just have a hard time throwing
a rig like that in weeds and grass.

As to what kind of review I "have to" give... nobody pays me for my opinion
and I will always have my own bias. I did use the stick worm as my primary
worm most of the day. I tried it wacky rigged. I tried it texas rigged
weighted and weightless. I spent eight hours on the water and switched up
between topwater and stick worms most of the day. I only changed up my
approach to try and pull a big fish out of heavy cover after a fulld ay of
pounding the water.

I was kind of happy that a follow up techinque produced a fish for me. I
asked about follow up tactics here a while back, but didn't get much
feedback.

Yeah it wasn't much of a review. More of a rant about a day of pounding the
water for little return.


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Yuma, Az
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Old October 13th, 2003, 06:22 AM
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Curious Bob, you say the lures didn't draw the fish out of the brush. How
do you know there were fish in the brush you were fishing?

You can't rely on lures to draw fish out of brush when it's tough Bob, you
have to get your bait in there & bounce it off the fish's nose son!

When I'm not catchin' em I tend to blame mysself, not my lures or the fish.

Warren
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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"Craig" wrote in message
news
Bob,

I am confused. Your title indicated a review of Mesa Tackle products.

What
I read was story of an outing you had where you use one of Mesa Tackles
lures, for one cast, and caught a fish. Hell you didn't even credit the
lure with the catch, indicating you felt any plastic lure would have

done
the trick. Go use those puppies on a few more outings where they are

your
primary lures, then come back and tell us what you liked and disliked

about
them. Tell me why I should or should not buy them. Score them on a

scale
of 1 to 10 on Quality, effectiveness, price, etc. I would love to hear

an
unbiased opinion.

Craig Baugher


Well, it was the first time I used them, and you are probably right. Any
jerk bait would probably have caught that fish. I guess my only comment

on
the whole thing was if anything the Mesa Tackle stuff did not catch fish
when nothing else would either.

They may be great plastics, but they didn't draw fish out of the brush on

a
tough day. I threw craws, jig trailers, and worms by Mesa Tackle. One of
the two fish I caught was on a Mesa Tackle plastic.

I didn't try the drop shot stuff though. I just have a hard time

throwing
a rig like that in weeds and grass.

As to what kind of review I "have to" give... nobody pays me for my

opinion
and I will always have my own bias. I did use the stick worm as my

primary
worm most of the day. I tried it wacky rigged. I tried it texas rigged
weighted and weightless. I spent eight hours on the water and switched up
between topwater and stick worms most of the day. I only changed up my
approach to try and pull a big fish out of heavy cover after a fulld ay of
pounding the water.

I was kind of happy that a follow up techinque produced a fish for me. I
asked about follow up tactics here a while back, but didn't get much
feedback.

Yeah it wasn't much of a review. More of a rant about a day of pounding

the
water for little return.


--
Bob La Londe
Yuma, Az
http://www.YumaBassMan.com
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Old October 13th, 2003, 12:50 PM
Craig
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I agree with Warren. A tough day is only tough because I cannot find what
the fish want or what is needed to make them strike (out of anger, fear,
instinct). But I have found during these times that my odd ball lures are
the ones that draw the strike. Like this worm somebody gave me that has a
jig head with what appears to be a Indiana blade sticking out of it. I
never use it unless all else fails, because it just doesn't fit my normal
style of fishing, but it does work in those tough conditions. I have may be
a half-dozen lures that I call odd-balls, and each has produced fish,
typically in tough conditions.

--
Craig Baugher

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Practicing My Freedom of Speech, and Enjoying It!
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Old October 13th, 2003, 02:32 PM
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, but I didn't have a rule in the boat so I tossed it
back. I didn't want to risk weighing in a short fish.


We had a guy lose first place in a tournament because he lost his keeper board
that morning and brought in a short fish. Don't think I would fish a
tournament with out one - and a backup. And I learned many years ago to keep a
small tool box in the boat.
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com
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Old October 13th, 2003, 03:07 PM
Bob La Londe
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"Craig" wrote in message
om...
I agree with Warren. A tough day is only tough because I cannot find what
the fish want or what is needed to make them strike (out of anger, fear,
instinct). But I have found during these times that my odd ball lures are
the ones that draw the strike. Like this worm somebody gave me that has a
jig head with what appears to be a Indiana blade sticking out of it. I
never use it unless all else fails, because it just doesn't fit my normal
style of fishing, but it does work in those tough conditions. I have may

be
a half-dozen lures that I call odd-balls, and each has produced fish,
typically in tough conditions.

--
Craig Baugher

Living in The United States, and Loving It!
Practicing My Freedom of Speech, and Enjoying It!
Knowing how to Thank those that paid for it, by Honoring It!



Its funny you guys have said that. I have relied pretty heavily on the
early morning topwater bite (something that has never produced for me in the
past), and then on soft plastics this year. I spent a couple outings
throwing nothing but spinner baits and caught a few fish, but nothing
spectacular. I spent quite a bit of time thinking about it and I have been
thinking about some different things to throw at these fish. Almost
everybody here goes to flipping jigs or worms when it gets tough. Thats
what I did too.

Now I was thinking if the bite was tough why not try some of my old standby
stuff. When I was a kid I caught a lot of bass (mostly small ones) on small
Kastmaster spoons ripped very fast through the water, and small inline
spinners run as slow as I could run them. I even figured out how to run
them over weeds without hanging up. There does have to be atleast a few
inches of clear water over the weeds though. I would use a light action rig
7' or longer and hold the rod tip as high as I could to keep the lure in a
pulled up direction and crank it just fast enough to keep it out of the
weeds. I have already decided to have a couple of those tiednon next time I
go out. I also ordered a few of the Mepps minnow inlines. I only ever
owned a couple of those when I was a kid. At three bucks a pop they were
more than I could usually afford so I stuck with the cheaper Rooster Tails
or even cheaper generic spinners.

I never fished the big stuff when I was a kid tromping through the brush on
the Gila River. Crank baits were out of my price range, and I would have
never dreamed of throwing topwater.

I've listened to all this throw anchor line with boat anchors directly the
brush stuff. I've learned that topwaters do produce some nice fish.
Finesse worms do work for sight fishing when the fish are biting. I don't
know about the jig and trailer being the big fish getter, but I have
certainly tried it.

Now its time for me to go back to my basics.

Its going to be tough with all the weed growth in the water, but I will give
it a shot.

As to knowing the fish are there... I have seen them. I really can't
imagine a back water fish is going to thread his way out of a 8-10 foot deep
back lake through a bunch of shallow channels to the main river and hunt the
main curent on a slow day. Sure he may move back into heavy cover, or he
may move into to deeper water, but the fish I catch in the back waters look
different than those I catch in the current. They eat different stuff and
they hunt different prey.

Blame the bait? No that wasn't my point at all. They didn't make the
difference. Sure they are good looking baits, but they did not give me an
edge.

Further back in the brush? Thats what I do when I pitch. In fact when the
regular pitching gear failed to produce for me I started throwing light
action stuff back into the brush. By noon or one I was throwing 12 lb (6lb
dia) super mono into cover I would normally reserve for 50lb Power Pro. On
the edge of the brush and then towards deeeper water. I just wasn't
throwing what they wanted.

I was amazed though by how easily I got the lighter stuff in and out of the
heavy stuff. I figured if I hooked up with it I would have to run the boat
right up into the trash to get my fish. That was something I figured I'ld
worry about after I actually hooked one.

My other stand by when I started to be able to afford stuff was the Storm
Thin Fin Silver Shad crank bait. It was a bait that would always get me a
fish or two of I just kept thowing it out and cranking it in very slow. It
is no longer made, and it catches every weed in the area. With the heavy
weed growth its difficult for me to throw a lot of my real confidence baits,
but I think I am going try them next time out. My little green Zoom U-Tails
didn't even produce this last time out, and they have been my hard corp bait
in recent years.

Its been a tough season fishing for me. Just about the time I think I have
something I can build on it quits working. I'll find an area that produces
a few fish and a way that catches them and I'll set myself a plan to hit
that then try soemthing else, and I wind up trying something else because
that didn't produce at all. I sympathise with some of the guys who come in
here ready to just give up.

I've tried to blame my skills, but I hook most fish that I feel or see hit.
Sure I describe missing some, but I've found things I can rely on. The
Excalibur rotating hooks now decorate most of my topwaters baits. I use the
Eagle Claw rotating hooks for most soft plastic applications except light
lining jerk baits where they tend to twist line. I know I don't have much
of a touch for feeling a bite with the heavy action stuff, but I'm pretty
good at watching the line. As for finding fish. In this shallow river and
lake system the fish finders are of minimal use. Too much weed and brush
growth paired with a lot of shallow water. As Van Dam says I do try to
follw the bait. A couple weekends ago I found a school of shad pinned up
near the dock in Squaw lake. I caught a mess of small keepers there. Or as
any of the trouters would say match the hatch. When I get in waters where I
see lots of 3-4 inch bass I throw baby bass pattern baits and catch some
fish (most of the time). I just can't seem to find any patterns that will
produce consistantly for me on good days much less on a tough day.

I go out with 12 - 15 rods rigged with different stuff, and by the end of
the day I have fished every one of them. Usually a half dozen other things
as well.

I try hard points which most anglers here ignore unless they see a feed
actually going on. I fish lake mouths and back water mouths when the water
is rising or falling. I fish standing under water trees in open water when
I can. Another thing that a lot of anglers around here seem to ignore.

The things I see others here doing consistantly day in day out is throwing
topwater first thing in the morning, and pitching the shore of the main
current during the day. Some will also pitch the refuge (when its open) in
Martinez lake and the shore line in Ferguson Lake. I've spent whole days
doing each of those things trying to figure out what works when.

I try and fish with others when ever possible and I try to be a good fishing
partner. I'm always quick with the net when my partner has a fish on. I
always bring extra sodas and munchies for my fishing partner. If I am
fishing out of someody else's boat I always give them extra money for fuel.
If I damage something I always point it out and take care of fixing it no
matter the cost. I try to keep my mouth shut and not whine if I'm not doing
well, and not brag if I'm the one putting fish in the boat. Unfortunately I
have found that most of the guys around here in the clubs are either younger
and have no interest in fishing with a guy my age who has mediocre skills or
are much older and feel the same. Mostly they are 50-70 in the clubs and
those of us under 40 are the "young pups." Thats was one of the reasons I
decided I wanted my own boat. Atleast I could get out when ever I had the
time.

As to guys not members of the local clubs that is harder. Of those I have
met and who wanted to fish most have few skills, which I actually don't have
a problem with. I learned balloon rigging minnows from a guy who couldn't
cast a spinning rod in open water. That is a fish catching technique that
is unequaled. I taught him my lazy sidearm cast that can put a bait under
over hanging brush on the far bank. I learned about slow dragging worms on
sandy slopes from a ten year old kid with a broken down spincaster. He also
showed me how to use a round head jig to fish a worm in rock piles and
riprap. When it works it really works. When I was ten I figured out a trout
lake that everybody said was dead anytime after a heavy rain fall. It
turned out that with the correct presentation that was the best time to
fish. When I was about eight I figured out a technique for fishing under
bridges in current from the bank. Everybody can contribute something if
they are really interested in fishing. I kind of got turned off of a lot of
casual fishing partners though when I realized that most casual fishermen
just want an excuse to go out and drink. Quite a number only if I buy the
beer, bring my boat, supply the gear, bring the food, pick them up, and
don't even offer if they screw up some of my gear. If I wanted to pay
somebody to fish with me I would hire a guide. In fact I would but the only
local guide I know is laid up with a torn achilles tendon.

I'm trying to learn new stuff. I do change up my gear. I try different
tactics and different waters regularly. I fish with other people when I get
the chance.

You can only say so much in a usenet post. I imagine most people reading
this one got bored somewhere around the second paragraph.


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Bob La Londe
Yuma, Az
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Old October 13th, 2003, 03:15 PM
Bob La Londe
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"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...
, but I didn't have a rule in the boat so I tossed it
back. I didn't want to risk weighing in a short fish.


We had a guy lose first place in a tournament because he lost his keeper

board
that morning and brought in a short fish. Don't think I would fish a
tournament with out one - and a backup. And I learned many years ago to

keep a
small tool box in the boat.
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com


I ordered a fixed rule http://tinyurl.com/qqec and a stick-on
http://tinyurl.com/qqe9 last night. I actually went to Wally World first to
get one, but all I could find was an aluminum yard stick there. I was going
to buy it but after waiting in line for twenty minutes to check out I had
the sarcasm nice lady /sarcasm at the check out counter put the lane
closed sign down down right in front of me. The Skeeter has a stick on up
front, but I didn't even have my Leatherman tool on ym belt that day.

I only wish I had more stuff for her to have to put away when I set my stuff
down and walked out.

I've already pulled my misc parts and tools box out of the Skeeter to clean
it out and see what I want in the Baker.


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Old October 13th, 2003, 06:30 PM
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Default Review of the Mesa Tackle baits

Bob, you just gave a thorough description of what fishing is. Nothing is
ever for sure. The best tackle and baits can give you an advantage, but not
always. There is always room to better your performance, and there is always
more to be learned. That is why fishing, and the quest for fishing
knowledge, is so darn much fun.

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--------------------------=x O')))


"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"Craig" wrote in message
om...
I agree with Warren. A tough day is only tough because I cannot find

what
the fish want or what is needed to make them strike (out of anger, fear,
instinct). But I have found during these times that my odd ball lures

are
the ones that draw the strike. Like this worm somebody gave me that has

a
jig head with what appears to be a Indiana blade sticking out of it. I
never use it unless all else fails, because it just doesn't fit my

normal
style of fishing, but it does work in those tough conditions. I have

may
be
a half-dozen lures that I call odd-balls, and each has produced fish,
typically in tough conditions.

--
Craig Baugher

Living in The United States, and Loving It!
Practicing My Freedom of Speech, and Enjoying It!
Knowing how to Thank those that paid for it, by Honoring It!



Its funny you guys have said that. I have relied pretty heavily on the
early morning topwater bite (something that has never produced for me in

the
past), and then on soft plastics this year. I spent a couple outings
throwing nothing but spinner baits and caught a few fish, but nothing
spectacular. I spent quite a bit of time thinking about it and I have

been
thinking about some different things to throw at these fish. Almost
everybody here goes to flipping jigs or worms when it gets tough. Thats
what I did too.

Now I was thinking if the bite was tough why not try some of my old

standby
stuff. When I was a kid I caught a lot of bass (mostly small ones) on

small
Kastmaster spoons ripped very fast through the water, and small inline
spinners run as slow as I could run them. I even figured out how to run
them over weeds without hanging up. There does have to be atleast a few
inches of clear water over the weeds though. I would use a light action

rig
7' or longer and hold the rod tip as high as I could to keep the lure in a
pulled up direction and crank it just fast enough to keep it out of the
weeds. I have already decided to have a couple of those tiednon next time

I
go out. I also ordered a few of the Mepps minnow inlines. I only ever
owned a couple of those when I was a kid. At three bucks a pop they were
more than I could usually afford so I stuck with the cheaper Rooster Tails
or even cheaper generic spinners.

I never fished the big stuff when I was a kid tromping through the brush

on
the Gila River. Crank baits were out of my price range, and I would have
never dreamed of throwing topwater.

I've listened to all this throw anchor line with boat anchors directly the
brush stuff. I've learned that topwaters do produce some nice fish.
Finesse worms do work for sight fishing when the fish are biting. I don't
know about the jig and trailer being the big fish getter, but I have
certainly tried it.

Now its time for me to go back to my basics.

Its going to be tough with all the weed growth in the water, but I will

give
it a shot.

As to knowing the fish are there... I have seen them. I really can't
imagine a back water fish is going to thread his way out of a 8-10 foot

deep
back lake through a bunch of shallow channels to the main river and hunt

the
main curent on a slow day. Sure he may move back into heavy cover, or he
may move into to deeper water, but the fish I catch in the back waters

look
different than those I catch in the current. They eat different stuff and
they hunt different prey.

Blame the bait? No that wasn't my point at all. They didn't make the
difference. Sure they are good looking baits, but they did not give me an
edge.

Further back in the brush? Thats what I do when I pitch. In fact when

the
regular pitching gear failed to produce for me I started throwing light
action stuff back into the brush. By noon or one I was throwing 12 lb

(6lb
dia) super mono into cover I would normally reserve for 50lb Power Pro.

On
the edge of the brush and then towards deeeper water. I just wasn't
throwing what they wanted.

I was amazed though by how easily I got the lighter stuff in and out of

the
heavy stuff. I figured if I hooked up with it I would have to run the

boat
right up into the trash to get my fish. That was something I figured I'ld
worry about after I actually hooked one.

My other stand by when I started to be able to afford stuff was the Storm
Thin Fin Silver Shad crank bait. It was a bait that would always get me a
fish or two of I just kept thowing it out and cranking it in very slow.

It
is no longer made, and it catches every weed in the area. With the heavy
weed growth its difficult for me to throw a lot of my real confidence

baits,
but I think I am going try them next time out. My little green Zoom

U-Tails
didn't even produce this last time out, and they have been my hard corp

bait
in recent years.

Its been a tough season fishing for me. Just about the time I think I

have
something I can build on it quits working. I'll find an area that

produces
a few fish and a way that catches them and I'll set myself a plan to hit
that then try soemthing else, and I wind up trying something else because
that didn't produce at all. I sympathise with some of the guys who come

in
here ready to just give up.

I've tried to blame my skills, but I hook most fish that I feel or see

hit.
Sure I describe missing some, but I've found things I can rely on. The
Excalibur rotating hooks now decorate most of my topwaters baits. I use

the
Eagle Claw rotating hooks for most soft plastic applications except light
lining jerk baits where they tend to twist line. I know I don't have much
of a touch for feeling a bite with the heavy action stuff, but I'm pretty
good at watching the line. As for finding fish. In this shallow river

and
lake system the fish finders are of minimal use. Too much weed and brush
growth paired with a lot of shallow water. As Van Dam says I do try to
follw the bait. A couple weekends ago I found a school of shad pinned up
near the dock in Squaw lake. I caught a mess of small keepers there. Or

as
any of the trouters would say match the hatch. When I get in waters where

I
see lots of 3-4 inch bass I throw baby bass pattern baits and catch some
fish (most of the time). I just can't seem to find any patterns that will
produce consistantly for me on good days much less on a tough day.

I go out with 12 - 15 rods rigged with different stuff, and by the end of
the day I have fished every one of them. Usually a half dozen other

things
as well.

I try hard points which most anglers here ignore unless they see a feed
actually going on. I fish lake mouths and back water mouths when the

water
is rising or falling. I fish standing under water trees in open water

when
I can. Another thing that a lot of anglers around here seem to ignore.

The things I see others here doing consistantly day in day out is throwing
topwater first thing in the morning, and pitching the shore of the main
current during the day. Some will also pitch the refuge (when its open)

in
Martinez lake and the shore line in Ferguson Lake. I've spent whole days
doing each of those things trying to figure out what works when.

I try and fish with others when ever possible and I try to be a good

fishing
partner. I'm always quick with the net when my partner has a fish on. I
always bring extra sodas and munchies for my fishing partner. If I am
fishing out of someody else's boat I always give them extra money for

fuel.
If I damage something I always point it out and take care of fixing it no
matter the cost. I try to keep my mouth shut and not whine if I'm not

doing
well, and not brag if I'm the one putting fish in the boat. Unfortunately

I
have found that most of the guys around here in the clubs are either

younger
and have no interest in fishing with a guy my age who has mediocre skills

or
are much older and feel the same. Mostly they are 50-70 in the clubs and
those of us under 40 are the "young pups." Thats was one of the reasons I
decided I wanted my own boat. Atleast I could get out when ever I had the
time.

As to guys not members of the local clubs that is harder. Of those I have
met and who wanted to fish most have few skills, which I actually don't

have
a problem with. I learned balloon rigging minnows from a guy who couldn't
cast a spinning rod in open water. That is a fish catching technique that
is unequaled. I taught him my lazy sidearm cast that can put a bait

under
over hanging brush on the far bank. I learned about slow dragging worms

on
sandy slopes from a ten year old kid with a broken down spincaster. He

also
showed me how to use a round head jig to fish a worm in rock piles and
riprap. When it works it really works. When I was ten I figured out a

trout
lake that everybody said was dead anytime after a heavy rain fall. It
turned out that with the correct presentation that was the best time to
fish. When I was about eight I figured out a technique for fishing under
bridges in current from the bank. Everybody can contribute something if
they are really interested in fishing. I kind of got turned off of a lot

of
casual fishing partners though when I realized that most casual fishermen
just want an excuse to go out and drink. Quite a number only if I buy the
beer, bring my boat, supply the gear, bring the food, pick them up, and
don't even offer if they screw up some of my gear. If I wanted to pay
somebody to fish with me I would hire a guide. In fact I would but the

only
local guide I know is laid up with a torn achilles tendon.

I'm trying to learn new stuff. I do change up my gear. I try different
tactics and different waters regularly. I fish with other people when I

get
the chance.

You can only say so much in a usenet post. I imagine most people reading
this one got bored somewhere around the second paragraph.


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