question about steelhead rainbow and rainbow

I once had a guy butcher a salmon and show me that the esophogus(sp?) was
swollen shut. According to him, this is supposed to happen whithin a day or
so after a salmon enters fresh water. I'm not a fish biologist, and
sometimes I'm too ready to accept other peoples theories. But hae seemed
honest and knowledgeable.


"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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"Sierra fisher" wrote:
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Salmon eat nothing once they come into fresh water: some people
believe that
most salmon are snagged because it is impossible for them to eat after
they
have been in fresh water for a day or so.

My son Andy caught a Silver salmon last year on the Skagit above
Rockport that had a skulpin and a half digested whitefish in it's
stomach. I've found that the fish quit feeding as they get close to
spawning, but that it's not necessarily related to when they enter the
rivers. The same is true of the change from ocean coloration to
spawning colors. Andy's fish was ocean bright, but had no sea lice.
That indicates he'd been in the river a few days. Considering that
he'd come more than 70 miles upstream in a big river that makes sense.
The fish was caught in October, and the fish was probably going to
spawn in November or December.

It's rare to find anything in a salmon or steelhead's stomach, but it
does happen. Deschutes and Kalama steelhead often have a stomach full
of grasshoppers or stonefly nymphs.

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On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 00:28:18 GMT, "Wayne Harrison"
wrote:

if god were not a tar heel, then why are valium, viagra, and this
bizarre fish meat, *carolina blue*?

Because tar heels are hyper, have limp dicks, and will eat anything
labeled "meat"? g
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Charlie...

Cabezon have blue flesh, not just a tint but blue. They are uglier than
ling cod but don't get as large. Being ugly and blue doesn't affect the
taste. They are quite good. They are alse finny and have sharp spines and
the holes they make in you can hurt for days. . The safest way to clean
them was to skin em after attaching their head to board with an ice pick.


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irate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:
On the north end of the island of Adak (in the Aleutians) at the foot
of Mt.
Moffett is a fresh water lake. The fish caught there are called
Japanese
Perch, or at least that is what we called them. They could get quite
large
(for a perch) and were very tasty. Only problem was that the meat was
blue,
about the color of the sky. When it was cooked, the meat turned
white. What
would cause this meat to be blue?

I'm not sure what food it is, but Ling Cod have a tendancy to be a pale
blue too. Any idea what these perch ate? Were there any other fish in
the lake? Was it pure fresh water, or brackish?

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Charlie Choc wrote:

"Wayne Harrison" wrote:

if god were not a tar heel, then why are valium, viagra, and this
bizarre fish meat, *carolina blue*?

Because tar heels are hyper, have limp dicks, and will eat anything
labeled "meat"? g

Hilarious.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Sierra fisher" wrote in
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I once had a guy butcher a salmon and show me that the
esophogus(sp?) was
swollen shut. According to him, this is supposed to happen
whithin a day or
so after a salmon enters fresh water. I'm not a fish
biologist, and
sometimes I'm too ready to accept other peoples theories. But
hae seemed
honest and knowledgeable.

I think this is natures way of preventing the spawning salmon
from depleting the food supply needed for their offspring, or
preventing them from eating the eggs. The bodies of the spawned
salmon also provide a tremendous amount of material to the food
chain.
Ernie

I wished i would have said that!


"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Charlie Choc wrote:

"Wayne Harrison" wrote:

if god were not a tar heel, then why are valium, viagra, and this
bizarre fish meat, *carolina blue*?

Because tar heels are hyper, have limp dicks, and will eat anything
labeled "meat"? g

Hilarious.

--
Ken Fortenberry



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In article 6TeVb.194594$Rc4.1650041@attbi_s54,
Chas Wade wrote:

It's rare to find anything in a salmon or steelhead's stomach, but it
does happen. Deschutes and Kalama steelhead often have a stomach full
of grasshoppers or stonefly nymphs.

I caught a 20 inch chromer on the feather (hundreds and hundreds of
miles from the ocean) in january and someone suctioned his stomach, and
he had a TON of mayflies in him, like 20.

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deserves neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
"Those who are ready to sacrifice freedom for security
ultimately will lose both" - Abraham Lincoln

"Sierra fisher" wrote:
I once had a guy butcher a salmon and show me that the esophogus(sp?)
was
swollen shut. According to him, this is supposed to happen whithin a
day or
so after a salmon enters fresh water. I'm not a fish biologist, and
sometimes I'm too ready to accept other peoples theories. But he seemed
honest and knowledgeable.

Being honest and knowledgeable doesn't make one right. I've cleaned
quite a few of those guys this year who had more than a day or two in
the fresh water. The esophadus(sp!) was closed as it is in all fish,
but when I tried to pull out the gills my finger would slide easily
into the esophagus. It's not swolen shut. The stomach seems to
shrink, but that's because it's empty. You find the same thing in any
fish that hasn't eaten for a day.

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"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
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I wished i would have said that!

i wish i hadn't.

yfitons
wayno

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Charlie Choc wrote:

"Wayne Harrison" wrote:

if god were not a tar heel, then why are valium, viagra, and this
bizarre fish meat, *carolina blue*?

Because tar heels are hyper, have limp dicks, and will eat anything
labeled "meat"? g

Hilarious.

--
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"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 00:28:18 GMT, "Wayne Harrison"
wrote:

if god were not a tar heel, then why are valium, viagra, and this
bizarre fish meat, *carolina blue*?

Because tar heels are hyper, have limp dicks, and will eat anything
labeled "meat"? g
--
Charlie...

Charlie Wrote:
..and will eat anything labeled" meat"? g


Well, Charlie, U.S.D.A. labels and all............ ;-)

Snake- tar heels are discriminating, ya know- bigger grin