On the subject of backpacking...

Tom Nakashima wrote:

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
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"William Claspy" wrote in message
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One word, brother:

Coffee.

Bill


Ice-coffee, Bill.
-tom

Looking back up the thread, one is tempted to suppose that iced drinks
aren't exactly the best choice for those occasions when you want to get a
fire built in a hurry. Even on the most benign winter day in the woods up
here in Curdistan it's going to be a tough sell.

Wolfgang


Wolf, I see you as one of those double ice-cappuccino latte's with a twist
of lemon guy.
-tom


um...i've shared campin-out coffee made by wolfgang...i'd say he's more
like a "chew through the grounds and quit-yer-bitchin" kinda guy. but
it was fun, and, despite the grit of the occasional bit of grounds, the
coffee was damn tasty. of course, i also ate some of patton's power
bars...so, my taste buds might have been a bit, uh, changed, at the time.

jeff

"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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Sunny south? I'm only 80 or 90 miles south of you.

And that's......what?......where the sun don't shine?


That depends on what you think of the Chicago area?

Quite.

Wolfgang
a nice place to visit.........

William Claspy wrote:

On 2/10/06 10:22 AM, in article , "Tom
Nakashima" wrote:


"William Claspy" wrote in message
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On 2/10/06 9:41 AM, in article , "Tom
Nakashima" wrote:


My current stove, the MSR dragonfly, is a lot more expensive but it
packs
up into a pretty small package. Even with a small fuel bottle it isn't
very large or heavy.......certainly doable for a day trip on a stream.
What makes it even more appealing for me is the very precise control
over
the flame......it's the first stove I've owned that will do both jet
blast and a low simmer. If you aren't familiar with this one, it's
worth
checking out.

Do you really need a stove?
On short trips I don't even bother to pack a stove now with the packaged
tuna and the many beef jerky brands. Three days or less out in the
wilderness I won't pack a stove.
-tom

One word, brother:

Coffee.

Bill


Ice-coffee, Bill.
-tom


Hoooo-eeeee. Tom, your style of hiking impresses the hell out of me, and
your ultra-light packing posts of last year really inspired me, and sure
enough I had my pack weight down to right around 20 pounds. But you can bet
your bottom dollar that the stove and doubled zip lock of Sumatran was in
there.

I mean, some things make the experience...well, what the experience is. For
each of us. For me, one of those things is the steaming mug first thing in
the morning. Even if I'm just doing an overnighter. Dan doesn't do
campfires. I like to have at least one on a trip. Something primal about
being out there, crouching before a little blaze.

Anyhow, carry on. Each in his own way. :-)

Bill


if i'm camping, i'm camping near you in the yoop this september. got
any blue mountain or kona? g

jeff

"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
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Tom Nakashima wrote:

Wolf, I see you as one of those double ice-cappuccino latte's with a
twist of lemon guy.
-tom
um...i've shared campin-out coffee made by wolfgang...i'd say he's more
like a "chew through the grounds and quit-yer-bitchin" kinda guy. but it
was fun, and, despite the grit of the occasional bit of grounds, the
coffee was damn tasty. of course, i also ate some of patton's power
bars...so, my taste buds might have been a bit, uh, changed, at the time.

jeff

Coffee.......

Many's the time that the waitperson has asked......

"Would anyone like some coffee?"

"Um......is it fresh?" asks yer humble narrator.

"Well, it was just made this morning!".....arched eyebrows.

"Um......(looking at watch ......which says 11:46......and doing rapid {if
somewhat rough} mental calculations).....no thanks.

Hills Brothers....or Folgers....depending on price, are the workaday
brews.....American style, as they say. Which is to say that stronger is not
necessarily better. Starbucks is the American dream incarnate.......nasty
****, grossly overpriced, will do quite nicely, thank you very much, in lieu
of anything that resembles taste, good sense, decorum, or common decency. I
get a cup every morning (cut about 50/50 with hot water) and Crystal charges
me only for the equally nasty and thinly disguised instant Nescafe crap that
comes out of the machine at the other end of the cafeteria.......58 cents.
Cheap at half that price......still garbage, but cheap garbage.

Cowboy coffee (about the only thing not embarrassed by association with the
sometime noun) is (somewhat paradoxically) good honest stuff that a boy can
(literally) sink his teeth into. Put a bunch of water in the pot. Bring to
boil. Add a bunch of coffee. Set aside to steep. Or return to boil.
Either way, let it set a couple of minutes. Drink. Chew. Spit. Mmmmmmm.


But, sometimes one simply has to get serious about coffee. Jamaica blue
mountain? Puhleeze!......what do I look like?.....I just fell off the
****in' turnip truck? Kona? Give it back to the dog that bred it.
Colombian? Uh uh....I said co.....well, never mind.

Harrar? Ahhhhhh! That's what I'M talkin' about! REAL
coffee.......low acid.....tastes like the alkaline soil it came out of!
Heaven (or a part of it, anyway) is somewhere in Ethiopia.

Wolfgang
power bars optional.......olives on request.

"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
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...got any blue mountain or kona? g

Oops! Please disregard any recent fraudulent posts concerning coffee
purportedly coming from yer humble narrator. Heh, heh......

Wolfgang
well ****.....how was i to know?

Wolfgang wrote:

"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
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...got any blue mountain or kona? g


Oops! Please disregard any recent fraudulent posts concerning coffee
purportedly coming from yer humble narrator. Heh, heh......

Wolfgang
well ****.....how was i to know?


actually, i'm working on my prescience. i'll show you some secrets if i
win 3rd place...

jeff

"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:

"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
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...got any blue mountain or kona? g


Oops! Please disregard any recent fraudulent posts concerning coffee
purportedly coming from yer humble narrator. Heh, heh......

Wolfgang
well ****.....how was i to know?
actually, i'm working on my prescience. i'll show you some secrets if i
win 3rd place...

Well, you really do need to work on that prescience. If it was working for
you, you'd know that third place would require more than strong coffee.
Hell, *I* can't spend five weeks with me without some serious
self-medication. Um......not that that's a bad thing.

Wolfgang
who would never dream of prescribing medication without a license.

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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Is it safe to assume that you burn the entire ounce.......whether you need
it or not?


Yes, and that's the point -- one use = one ounce of fuel. No ambiguity. Easy
planning. No estimating how much you have left.



Wolfgang


Dan

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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Is it safe to assume that you burn the entire ounce.......whether you
need it or not?


Yes, and that's the point

Well, that's "A" point. There are others.

-- one use = one ounce of fuel. No ambiguity. Easy planning. No estimating
how much you have left.

Life, with it's occasional ambiguities and uncertainties must be very hard
for some people.

Wolfgang
for whom backpacking used to be such a pleasure.......before he learned what
an intellectual and emotional challenge it is.

On 2/10/06 10:28 PM, in article hRcHf.3141$Nq1.2339@dukeread11, "Jeff
Miller" wrote:

if i'm camping, i'm camping near you in the yoop this september. got
any blue mountain or kona? g


Heck yes! It's the only way I can keep Wolfgang away from the coffee pot!

:-)

Bill