Carp on the Fly

"Steve Sullivan" wrote in message
...
....I think fish are too primitive for us to care.....

Hm......liar or idiot? It's always so hard to tell this early in the game.

Wolfgang
fortunately, we have time.

whats with lawyers and big letters? do leagle aids do your real typin so u
don't know what the kie with the arrer is about
"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
. com...

"Tim J." wrote in message
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"Tim J." wrote...
snip
Yeah, I know what you mean. I saw someone swat a fly once, so I picked
up a 2
x
4, whacked him a few times in the head, and asked how *he* liked it.
It
takes
all kinds.

Holy flashback, Batman! True story I forgot all about until just now:
When
I was
about 6 years old, my older brother pushed my cat off the top bunk, so I
pushed
him off to see if *he* liked it. My parents were ****ed - go figure.

which story puts me in mind of the time when, at age 8, my cousin
bobby
and i took his little brother, darrius, who the participants in the first
clave will certainly remember, to the barn at the back of their property.
the loft was probably eight feet high. we were engaged in a really
serious
argument about whether or not it was possible for a cape, such as that
worn
by superman, to support the human body in flight. darrius became our
experimental model. we tied a towel around his neck (he was four at the
time) and threw him out of the barn loft. he didn't fly, but he didn't
die.
so, i have always figured that one out of two ain't bad.

yfitons
wayno (yeah, forty, i know, the name "darrius" is not an accurate
rendition of the name of the persian king, darius, from whom the name
originated. but, ****, after all, we are just a bunch of carolina trailer
trash... )

From what I've heard, carp think WE are a blast to catch.


LOL!


-pw
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In article ,
says...
Just like I
wouldnt go to a park, put a dog bone through a size 6/0 hook, and catch
myself some cute cockerspaniels!


Of course not -- your average lapdog cocker is too fat and out
of shape to put up any kind of decent fight. A springer spaniel
or a border collie, on the other hand, can be damn sporty on
light tackle. And don't even try to catch a grayhound without
a well-tuned disc-drag reel that can hold a thousand yards of
backing.

Kevin
(...try a Double Bunny streamer...)

Greg Pavlov wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:56:42 +0100, "riverman"
wrote:


What's the Official Ethical Stance (OES) on playing a carp for a half hour?
Do we care as much about playing them to death as we do for, say, a brown
trout or salmon? Just wondering..



I know that this shouldn't have anything to do with
it, but having read that carp may live 50 or more
years, it bothers me more to see a large, old one
played out.

A twelve pound carp is by no means an old fish. According to
fishbase.org the maximum published weight is 37.3 kg, about 75 pounds.
Still, half an hour fight for a fish like that is much longer than
necessary, I've had bigger fish in the net in less than 5 minutes.

--
Herman, who used to be a carp fanatic before he saw the Light :-)

Kevin Vang wrote in message ...

Of course not -- your average lapdog cocker is too fat and out
of shape to put up any kind of decent fight. A springer spaniel
or a border collie, on the other hand, can be damn sporty on
light tackle. And don't even try to catch a grayhound without
a well-tuned disc-drag reel that can hold a thousand yards of
backing.

Kevin
(...try a Double Bunny streamer...)

And the tricky part is leading him just right ...


Chuck Vance

"riverman" wrote in message ...

What's the Official Ethical Stance (OES) on playing a carp for a half hour?
Do we care as much about playing them to death

Where I've caught them on the fly it would have been more
ethical to toss them on the bank than what I really did --
release them. Ahh well, it's often harder to do what's right
than to know what's right...

Jon.

Okay....I didn't realize that this was going to be such a controversial
subject. I might have stretched the "playing" time a bit....it was more
like 10-15 minutes....next time I'll keep that in mind when I hook into
one.........Mike
wrote in message ...
Hello, I'm sure this topic may have been discussed before but....night
before last I hooked into a carp with a "Jitterbee"(barbless hook) .The
fish
weighed over 12 pounds. I was useing my 6 weight with a 6 pound tippet
and
WHAT A FIGHT!! It was one of those moments that you wait for. I fought
with him for almost 1/2 hour until I got him in. I didn't pressure him
much because I was determined to get him landed. For those that have
fished
for carp on purpose or caught one by accident. I'm sure you will agree
that
they are a blast to catch. Thanks for your time. Mike Bernardoni

"Steve Sullivan" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Doug Kanter" wrote:

I don't fish for them, so I can't speak from experience. But, I see
quite a
few carp laying around fishing spots, dead, so apparently some of the
afficionados think they're not a worthwhile life form. Makes me want to
hook
the afficionados to my trailer hitch and see if they enjoy similar
treatment.


Yet you think hooking them in the mouth with a sharp hook is good for
them?? Personally, I think fish are too primitive for us to care. If a
fish had the brain of say a dog, I WOULDNT FISH FOR THEM!! Just like I
wouldnt go to a park, put a dog bone through a size 6/0 hook, and catch
myself some cute cockerspaniels!

1) Do you release some of the fish you catch? If so, do you do anything in
particular to assure that they swim away, rather than end up floating dead
on the surface?

2) I know two fishermen who have stated clearly that carp aren't worth
saving. Do you suppose there might be others who think this way?

3) I've never been awakened at 3:00 AM by a barking fish. What would be the
best angle at which to put a hook through a bone, in order to reeducate a
dog?

"Kevin Vang" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
Just like I
wouldnt go to a park, put a dog bone through a size 6/0 hook, and catch
myself some cute cockerspaniels!


Of course not -- your average lapdog cocker is too fat and out
of shape to put up any kind of decent fight. A springer spaniel
or a border collie, on the other hand, can be damn sporty on
light tackle. And don't even try to catch a grayhound without
a well-tuned disc-drag reel that can hold a thousand yards of
backing.

Kevin
(...try a Double Bunny streamer...)

Greyhound? What kind of drag would a reel need in order to deal with the
reel spinning at that speed, without overheating?