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Greg Pavlov wrote:
... Luckily my wife keeps our AAA subscriptions up to date, ... Yep, that's the best $73 a year we spend. We get that back with a couple of hotel stays in Chicago and a pair of eyeglasses at Lenscrafters even if we never need any roadside assistance. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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Ken Fortenberry wrote in
gy.com: Greg Pavlov wrote: ... Luckily my wife keeps our AAA subscriptions up to date, ... Yep, that's the best $73 a year we spend. We get that back with a couple of hotel stays in Chicago and a pair of eyeglasses at Lenscrafters even if we never need any roadside assistance. I totalled a car once-- very cold out, nasty weather. Cop shows up, asked if I had AAA. I did, and he called them for me. Then he told me that they ONLY deal with AAA, or their own contracted towers. They won't deal with any Insurance company or dealer roadside assistance plan. Really is great in an emergency. Scott |
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Toyota Sienna.
hmmm, one brand I didn't have I thought it might have been one of those bavarian bast... , um, I mean, vehicles. I really have grown to like Ford ignition switches which, as long as they don't short and start a fire (:-O) wear out such that you can use just about any ford type key blank to start the car. really, I think most wear on the switches just causes the key to be *more* reliable for *starting*, so I'd opt out of the aluminum keys myself. 'course, those keys with chips in them are excluded from this discussion... -- Rob |
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A problem for me is that supposedly it's not easy to obtain
replacement keys: they are made with some sort of proprietary blank - local key places don't carry them - and the machine that cuts them is fed a code that defines the pattern. see this is the type of thinking that product managers employ... make it as hard on the consumer in the name of "safety" whilst the bad guys will figure out a much easier way to swipe the car anyway. |
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ONLY deal with AAA, or their own contracted towers. They won't deal with any Insurance company or dealer roadside assistance plan. Really is great in an emergency. Scott of course, in NJ, specifically with local cops, I and my children on 4 different occasions, have had cops either NOT want to wait for AAA, or try to bully me into using their towing company. A royal PITA and I know it has to do with the local contracts signed (and the associated pressure from the pols to use them). -- so much fishing, so little time -- --please remuv the 'NOWAY2it' from my email addy to email me-- |
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ONLY deal with AAA, or their own contracted towers. They won't deal with any Insurance company or dealer roadside assistance plan. Really is great in an emergency. Scott of course, in NJ, specifically with local cops, I and my children on 4 different occasions, have had cops either NOT want to wait for AAA, or try to bully me into using their towing company. A royal PITA and I know it has to do with the local contracts signed (and the associated pressure from the pols to use them). -- so much fishing, so little time -- --please remuv the 'NOWAY2it' from my email addy to email me-- |
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"Greg Pavlov" wrote in message ... Peter and I had an experience I hadn't expected: we got back to my van after a day's fishing and found out that the key wouldn't turn in the ignition. After a tow to a dealer, etc, the diagnosis was that the key was worn. The van is 3 and a half years old and the key worked fine righr up to that point. I've found out that other people have had that problem and also with no advance warning of ani kind. So if you've had your car for a while you may want to carry an extra key with you. How much weight did you have on your key chain? We had a problem with SOs car. She had keys from the house ( front door. back door, )work (3) , a half pound pewter rabbit etc. on her key ring. Driving around with all that mass on the end of a key doesn't make the lock happy. the electronic ignitions are worse than the old ones. Going into the steering cloumn of a new car is not cheap. I have a hidden key on each of our vehicles. Take some Scotch 33 + tape and wrap a key somewhere underneath the car. Make the first wraps around the key with the sticky side out ( keeps the adhesive off the key) and tape the key on something. The black tape is hard to see especially after you get a little dirt on it. If you don't trust the tape put some wire or a ty-wrap on before taping the key on. |
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"Jack Schmitt" wrote in message ... Greg Pavlov wrote: Peter and I had an experience I hadn't expected: we got back to my van after a day's fishing and found out that the key wouldn't turn in the ignition. After a tow to a dealer, etc, the diagnosis was that the key was worn. The van is 3 and a half years old and the key worked fine righr up to that point. I've found out that other people have had that problem and also with no advance warning of ani kind. So if you've had your car for a while you may want to carry an extra key with you. I had this happen to me in my 82 GMC pickup that was 11 years old at the time. I was using an aluminum key made at Sears, I think. I replaced the ignition module and have used steel keys since with no problem in the last 11 or so years. I've had this problem with three vehicles.....including my current one. All of them used standard chrome plated brass keys. I HAVE seen both aluminum and steel keys, but aluminum infrequently and steel only rarely.. The majority (and EVERY one that I've had for a motor vehicle) of keys in the U.S. are made of brass. I have never even SEEN a car key made of either steel or aluminum. The only steel keys I have ever personally seen have been in......um......well, the bighouse. The machines used for duplicating keys at the local hardware store are not designed to cut steel. Wolfgang |
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 23:48:54 GMT, "B J Conner"
wrote: "Greg Pavlov" wrote in message .. . Peter and I had an experience I hadn't expected: we got back to my van after a day's fishing and found out that the key wouldn't turn in the ignition. After a tow to a dealer, etc, the diagnosis was that the key was worn. The van is 3 and a half years old and the key worked fine righr up to that point. I've found out that other people have had that problem and also with no advance warning of ani kind. So if you've had your car for a while you may want to carry an extra key with you. How much weight did you have on your key chain? We had a problem with SOs car. She had keys from the house ( front door. back door, )work (3) , a half pound pewter rabbit etc. on her key ring. Driving around with all that mass on the end of a key doesn't make the lock happy. the electronic ignitions are worse than the old ones. Going into the steering cloumn of a new car is not cheap. I have a hidden key on each of our vehicles. Take some Scotch 33 + tape and wrap a key somewhere underneath the car. Make the first wraps around the key with the sticky side out ( keeps the adhesive off the key) and tape the key on something. The black tape is hard to see especially after you get a little dirt on it. If you don't trust the tape put some wire or a ty-wrap on before taping the key on. My last two vehicles came with special, minimalist keys that I tucked inside my wallet. They'll open the drivers doors if I somehow lock the regular remote key/fob inside one of them. I haven't tested that theory yet... |
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 23:48:54 GMT, "B J Conner"
wrote: "Greg Pavlov" wrote in message .. . Peter and I had an experience I hadn't expected: we got back to my van after a day's fishing and found out that the key wouldn't turn in the ignition. After a tow to a dealer, etc, the diagnosis was that the key was worn. The van is 3 and a half years old and the key worked fine righr up to that point. I've found out that other people have had that problem and also with no advance warning of ani kind. So if you've had your car for a while you may want to carry an extra key with you. How much weight did you have on your key chain? We had a problem with SOs car. She had keys from the house ( front door. back door, )work (3) , a half pound pewter rabbit etc. on her key ring. Driving around with all that mass on the end of a key doesn't make the lock happy. the electronic ignitions are worse than the old ones. Going into the steering cloumn of a new car is not cheap. I have a hidden key on each of our vehicles. Take some Scotch 33 + tape and wrap a key somewhere underneath the car. Make the first wraps around the key with the sticky side out ( keeps the adhesive off the key) and tape the key on something. The black tape is hard to see especially after you get a little dirt on it. If you don't trust the tape put some wire or a ty-wrap on before taping the key on. My last two vehicles came with special, minimalist keys that I tucked inside my wallet. They'll open the drivers doors if I somehow lock the regular remote key/fob inside one of them. I haven't tested that theory yet... |
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