OT - Should passing a drug test be a requirement for gun purchase/ownership?

On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:37:03 -0700 (PDT), DaveS
wrote:


Gun rights supporters would do well to stop pretending that all of
their allies are angels, so the country can make the changes that will
get military grade weapons out of the hands of the radicals and
criminals, and preserve the rights of responsible citizens to own
arms.

Dave


Heads up....military grade weapons are the most protected of all arms
for the People.

Sorry Dave..you may spew, utter bizzarities and push your flabby chest
out..but you are have zip credibility, zip authority and zip knowledge
of the Constitution.

So simply ruck it up, pull back to your den and be ignored by the
People until one drives a deuce and a half over it by accident and you
are finally rendered a road kill..

Or wait a couple 2-3 yrs and be caught in the upcoming firestorm where
all the Leftwingers of note are assassinated. You might get caught in
the storm, not because of your "authority" but because you are too
stupid not to duck.

Either way..you are given notice.

Gunner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:52:02 -0700 (PDT), DaveS
wrote:

On Apr 5, 12:37*am, "Calif Bill" wrote:

Maybe his felony is cooking the books. *Not a violent crime. *An embezzler.
Lots of felonies are not for violence.- Hide quoted text -


Great. A convicted embezzler with a gun. That's reassuring. Bet the
parole officers will just celebrate that innovation.

Dave

Ayup..almost as scary as a Leftard with a gun huh?

Gunner




"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

On 2009-04-04, Gunner Asch wrote:

Heads up....military grade weapons are the most protected of all arms
for the People.

Thank you. Can still own a Garand, one of the most awesome milspec weapons
of all time, even in my expat state of insanity, CA. No beaurocrat accident.

nb

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:27:17 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:



Depends on what the felon did.


Not according to the Law

Gunner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

The question was "Or are you in favor of felons having the right to a
gun?"
In the "Wild West", a felon got his guns back as he left prison. As to
the "Wild West", you were more likely to be murdered in NYC under Tammany
Hall.

Oh..of course Im all in favor of the felon getting his guns back after
a time in prison.

If there had been a need to kill him, they would have done it before
he got to prison. Even during his crimes.

And there is always the next time.


Gunner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

Maybe his felony is cooking the books. Not a violent crime. An embezzler.
Lots of felonies are not for violence.

"Calif Bill" wrote in
:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:27:17 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:



Depends on what the felon did.


Not according to the Law

Gunner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and
us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when
you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

The question was "Or are you in favor of felons having the right to a
gun?"
In the "Wild West", a felon got his guns back as he left prison.
As to the "Wild West", you were more likely to be murdered in NYC
under Tammany Hall.

Oh..of course Im all in favor of the felon getting his guns back
after a time in prison.

If there had been a need to kill him, they would have done it before
he got to prison. Even during his crimes.

And there is always the next time.


Gunner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

Maybe his felony is cooking the books. Not a violent crime. An
embezzler. Lots of felonies are not for violence.

Then he shouldn't have lost his gun rights in the first place. I know,
the law doesn't differentiate but it should.


--
Sleep well, tonight.......

RD (The Sandman)

Some people are like Slinkies...
They are really good for nothing...

But they still bring a smile to your face
when you push them down a flight of stairs.

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:52:02 -0700 (PDT), DaveS
wrote:

On Apr 5, 12:37 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:

Maybe his felony is cooking the books. Not a violent crime. An
embezzler.
Lots of felonies are not for violence.- Hide quoted text -


Great. A convicted embezzler with a gun. That's reassuring. Bet the
parole officers will just celebrate that innovation.

Dave

Ayup..almost as scary as a Leftard with a gun huh?

Gunner



The guy has shown no violent activity with embezzlement, maybe he wants to
shoot ducks.

notbob...is the Garand a 30 - 06 cartridge?....



On Apr 4, 3:07*pm, notbob wrote:
On 2009-04-04, Gunner Asch wrote:

Heads up....military grade weapons are the most protected of all arms
for the People.

Thank you. *Can still own a Garand, one of the most awesome milspec weapons
of all time, even in my expat state of insanity, CA. *No beaurocrat accident.

nb

On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:06:47 -0700 (PDT), "~^ beancounter ~^"
wrote:

notbob...is the Garand a 30 - 06 cartridge?....

Most are indeed. There are several out there that are .308




On Apr 4, 3:07*pm, notbob wrote:
On 2009-04-04, Gunner Asch wrote:

Heads up....military grade weapons are the most protected of all arms
for the People.

Thank you. *Can still own a Garand, one of the most awesome milspec weapons
of all time, even in my expat state of insanity, CA. *No beaurocrat accident.

nb



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

how does that compair w/the 7mm Mag cartridge?




notbob...is the Garand a 30 - 06 cartridge?....

Most are indeed. *There are several out there that are .308

On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:42:13 -0700 (PDT), "~^ beancounter ~^"
wrote:

how does that compair w/the 7mm Mag cartridge?


Much much differently. You dont know the difference between 7mm Mag
and the 308?

If thats a serious question..Ill answer it.

Gunner




notbob...is the Garand a 30 - 06 cartridge?....

Most are indeed. *There are several out there that are .308




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