Ping Fortenberry

Found out some details today.

We get about a ton of food each month from MEFAP (Mass Emergency Food
Availability Program), but that will soon be cutting back. The State
is already in a billion dollar deficit with more to follow. We get 14
cases of ten various items (from a list of about 20). That is from
the Lowell Food Bank which is a State run facility. We also get about
another ton of food for which we pay $0.17/pound. Our money comes
from two $5000 private grants, and about $20K from two churches, and
some money from fund raisers (auction, sponsored foot race, etc.).

The local supermarkets give us yesterday's pastries/breads, and old
fruit and vegetables which we have to package.

Our expenses are mortgage on the building, expenses for the 12 pass
van, heat and electricity, etc. Only one person is paid - the
Director and then she is only a part-time employee, and doesn't make
very much for all she has to go through each week.

Our cubbards are getting very bare because of the State's cutbacks and
a slight increase in clients.

Dave

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
Found out some details today.

We get about a ton of food each month from MEFAP (Mass Emergency Food
Availability Program), but that will soon be cutting back. The State
is already in a billion dollar deficit with more to follow. We get 14
cases of ten various items (from a list of about 20). That is from
the Lowell Food Bank which is a State run facility. We also get about
another ton of food for which we pay $0.17/pound. Our money comes
from two $5000 private grants, and about $20K from two churches, and
some money from fund raisers (auction, sponsored foot race, etc.).

The local supermarkets give us yesterday's pastries/breads, and old
fruit and vegetables which we have to package.

Our expenses are mortgage on the building, expenses for the 12 pass
van, heat and electricity, etc. Only one person is paid - the
Director and then she is only a part-time employee, and doesn't make
very much for all she has to go through each week.

Our cubbards are getting very bare because of the State's cutbacks and
a slight increase in clients.


that would be cupboards, and my dad reported the same from the Breakfast
Mission he is involved with in Delaware. As I stated earlier, we are seeing
similar effects at the Catholic Charities Food Pantry here in Berks County.
Tom
Dave

Tom Littleton wrote:
"Dave LaCourse" wrote:
...
Our cubbards are getting very bare because of the State's cutbacks and
a slight increase in clients.

that would be cupboards, and my dad reported the same from the Breakfast
Mission he is involved with in Delaware. As I stated earlier, we are seeing
similar effects at the Catholic Charities Food Pantry here in Berks County.

Same here, the Eastern Illinois Foodbank does well when the economy
is rolling along, when the economy goes south, not so much.

--
Ken Fortenberry

We are still doing well, with only a minor addition of clients. Today
is was about 10 Cambodians who have been on relieve since they came to
this country years ago. They recently heard about our mission.

The food cutback is due to the state's inability to stop they hoggish
spending. Our Dem gov inherited a surplus just two short years ago,
and now we are into a billion dollar debt.

And stop being a net nannie, Tom. It does not become you. d;o)

Dave

In article , Dave LaCourse
wrote:

Found out some details today.

We get about a ton of food each month from MEFAP (Mass Emergency Food
Availability Program), but that will soon be cutting back. The State
is already in a billion dollar deficit with more to follow. We get 14
cases of ten various items (from a list of about 20). That is from
the Lowell Food Bank which is a State run facility. We also get about
another ton of food for which we pay $0.17/pound. Our money comes
from two $5000 private grants, and about $20K from two churches, and
some money from fund raisers (auction, sponsored foot race, etc.).

The local supermarkets give us yesterday's pastries/breads, and old
fruit and vegetables which we have to package.

Our expenses are mortgage on the building, expenses for the 12 pass
van, heat and electricity, etc. Only one person is paid - the
Director and then she is only a part-time employee, and doesn't make
very much for all she has to go through each week.

Our cubbards are getting very bare because of the State's cutbacks and
a slight increase in clients.

this all sounds crazy to me. What's going on? Banks being nationalized,
people who haven't made proper provision for the future being given
handouts?

Do you want a socialist (Obama?) for your next president or don't you?
I think Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan would have been horrified
by what's happening to private banks in the US at the moment.

the market is the only thing that works. We all know that. At times,
companies fail. That's part of the normal working of the market.

Only commies want handouts to people who, let's face it, have made bad
decisions about employment or about savings. If you get rid of moral
risk (which requires that people who have made bad decisions should get
hurt) then you destroy the very market which has made our great country
wealthy.

There are a lot of people out there who hate America, and want to
destroy it. They are those who will cry fire in a crowded theatre, and
will call for handouts when there's a blip in the market.

The American way has made us rich: it requires that a few people who
have made bad choices will suffer if the majority are going to flourish
(and if those that flourish are going to be lean and fit). It also
requires that we don't hand out taxpayers' money to people who have
made bad choices.

What's happening now is socialism. If I'd known that George W Bush was
a commie, I wouldn't have voted for him last time round.

Lazarus

"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message
news:141020082339500453%lazaruscooke@britishlibrar y.invalid...
There are a lot of people out there who hate America, and want to
destroy it. They are those who will cry fire in a crowded theatre, and
will call for handouts when there's a blip in the market.


this group would, seemingly, include most elected officials, not to mention
about half of Wall Street. Who the hell wouldn't want private profits and
nationalized risk?

The American way has made us rich: it requires that a few people who
have made bad choices will suffer if the majority are going to flourish
(and if those that flourish are going to be lean and fit).

huh?? This sounds like a cross between Dr. Phil and Richard Simmons, with a
dose or two of blotter acid thrown in.

Tom

Lazarus Cooke wrote:

this all sounds crazy to me. What's going on? Banks being nationalized,
people who haven't made proper provision for the future being given
handouts?

Do you want a socialist (Obama?) for your next president or don't you?
I think Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan would have been horrified
by what's happening to private banks in the US at the moment.

the market is the only thing that works. We all know that. At times,
companies fail. That's part of the normal working of the market.

Only commies want handouts to people who, let's face it, have made bad
decisions about employment or about savings. If you get rid of moral
risk (which requires that people who have made bad decisions should get
hurt) then you destroy the very market which has made our great country
wealthy.

There are a lot of people out there who hate America, and want to
destroy it. They are those who will cry fire in a crowded theatre, and
will call for handouts when there's a blip in the market.

The American way has made us rich: it requires that a few people who
have made bad choices will suffer if the majority are going to flourish
(and if those that flourish are going to be lean and fit). It also
requires that we don't hand out taxpayers' money to people who have
made bad choices.

What's happening now is socialism. If I'd known that George W Bush was
a commie, I wouldn't have voted for him last time round.

LOL !! I couldn't bring myself to snip nary a word.

A most beautiful piece of satire, sir. One of the funniest things
I've read on roff in quite awhile.

--
Ken Fortenberry

In article , Tom Littleton
wrote:

Who the hell wouldn't want private profits and
nationalized risk?

So how far do you take it?

Jack-booted Europeans trampling across the plains of Montana?

In many places in Europe, any bum who's voluntarily chosen NOT to take
out insurance can just roll up at a hospital, and get treated for tens
of thousands of dollars-worth of treatment paid for by hard-working
taxpayers. this is what clinton and obama are secretly trying to
impose upon us.

If poor people go without eating for a week they won't die. They may
even be healthier after a hungry weekend, and start thinking about what
jobs they're really prepared to do.

Do people like Dave de la Course want us to pay for people wh own a
television set? Why haven't they sold it?

L

On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:08:44 +0100, Lazarus Cooke
wrote:

Do people like Dave de la Course want us to pay for people wh own a
television set? Why haven't they sold it?

Lazarus, I am the biggest capitalist you will ever find. I am not a
bleeding heart liberal, and socialism is the worst of all the isms.

BUT, some people fall through the cracks in the floor in our country.
They receive assistance (it is some times my job to check what and how
much assistance they get), but without the food given to them at the
various food pantries in the area, they would be hungry. Is their
cheating amongst them? Bet your bippy there is. But it is not my job
to punish them for their cheating. I believe they will some day reap
what they sow. But in the mean time, I have no qualms about helping
someone who needs a hand-out, who needs help getting past a bad period
in their life, who needs just a few groceries and a warm blanket to
stave off the cold while they are homeless. You would do the same if
you saw them.

Dave

"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message
news:151020080008445138%lazaruscooke@britishlibrar y.invalid...
In article , Tom Littleton
wrote:

Who the hell wouldn't want private profits and
nationalized risk?

So how far do you take it?

Jack-booted Europeans trampling across the plains of Montana?

In many places in Europe, any bum who's voluntarily chosen NOT to take
out insurance can just roll up at a hospital, and get treated for tens
of thousands of dollars-worth of treatment paid for by hard-working
taxpayers. this is what clinton and obama are secretly trying to
impose upon us.

If poor people go without eating for a week they won't die. They may
even be healthier after a hungry weekend, and start thinking about what
jobs they're really prepared to do.

Do people like Dave de la Course want us to pay for people wh own a
television set? Why haven't they sold it?

L

.....ok, Lazarus, I get the sarcasm now. I still stand by my description of
that one paragraph, but now understand the style to be intentional.
vbg Tom