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A quick quiz on blue collar, Joe Sixpa...er, Lunchbox:
After 32 years on the Ford Assembly Plant line, Joe Lunchbox and the missus go out every Friday night to the Dew Drop Inn to have a cold one or two and listen to the jukebox. They are more likely to play: A) Smells Like Funk B) The Devil Went Down To Georgia On Saturday night, they go to the movies. They are more likely to be more interested in paying 10 bucks each to see: A) King Lear, starring Gwenyth Paltrow B) Whatever schlock Susan Sarandon might be in C) The snackbar commercial repeated for 2 hours On the way to the movies, they hear two stories on the news. Which is more likely to upset them: A) John McCain doesn't know off the top of his head how many houses his wife's family's business interests, in which he has no role, might own when suddenly asked B) The Dems have had to import huge super-stretch limos, which get about 6 feet to the gallon, from around the country to Denver so they don't have to ride to their "green" convention to bitch about oil companies in things like small, plain Fords http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/08/2...ons/index.html HTH, R ....and when told that Fergie and Will i am were going to be at the convention, Biden called McCain to brag about royal support. McCain told him that she is technically "ex-royalty," and although he did concede that the future king was a coup, he wasn't sure why the kid cared one way or the other... |
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yea, that's a laugh....my parking went up 350% this
am in downtown denver.....thanx barrack hussein obama.... what a joke....... " their green convention " On Aug 25, 11:05*am, wrote: A quick quiz on blue collar, Joe Sixpa...er, Lunchbox: After 32 years on the Ford Assembly Plant line, Joe Lunchbox and the missus go out every Friday night to the Dew Drop Inn to have a cold one or two and listen to the jukebox. *They are more likely to play: A) *Smells Like Funk B) *The Devil Went Down To Georgia On Saturday night, they go to the movies. *They are more likely to be more interested in paying 10 bucks each to see: A) King Lear, starring Gwenyth Paltrow B) Whatever schlock Susan Sarandon might be in C) The snackbar commercial repeated for 2 hours On the way to the movies, they hear two stories on the news. *Which is more likely to upset them: A) *John McCain doesn't know off the top of his head how many houses his wife's family's business interests, in which he has no role, might own when suddenly asked B) *The Dems have had to import huge super-stretch limos, which get about 6 feet to the gallon, from around the country to Denver so they don't have to ride to their "green" convention to bitch about oil companies in things like small, plain Fords http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/08/2...ventions/index... HTH, R ...and when told that Fergie and Will i am were going to be at the convention, Biden called McCain to brag about royal support. McCain told him that she is technically "ex-royalty," and although he did concede that the future king was a coup, he wasn't sure why the kid cared one way or the other... |
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![]() "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message ... yea, that's a laugh....my parking went up 350% this am in downtown denver.....thanx barrack hussein obama.... what a joke....... " their green convention " Yeah, I heard that Obama was getting a cut of the parking racket in Denver. Op On Aug 25, 11:05 am, wrote: A quick quiz on blue collar, Joe Sixpa...er, Lunchbox: After 32 years on the Ford Assembly Plant line, Joe Lunchbox and the missus go out every Friday night to the Dew Drop Inn to have a cold one or two and listen to the jukebox. They are more likely to play: A) Smells Like Funk B) The Devil Went Down To Georgia On Saturday night, they go to the movies. They are more likely to be more interested in paying 10 bucks each to see: A) King Lear, starring Gwenyth Paltrow B) Whatever schlock Susan Sarandon might be in C) The snackbar commercial repeated for 2 hours On the way to the movies, they hear two stories on the news. Which is more likely to upset them: A) John McCain doesn't know off the top of his head how many houses his wife's family's business interests, in which he has no role, might own when suddenly asked B) The Dems have had to import huge super-stretch limos, which get about 6 feet to the gallon, from around the country to Denver so they don't have to ride to their "green" convention to bitch about oil companies in things like small, plain Fords http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/08/2...ventions/index... HTH, R ...and when told that Fergie and Will i am were going to be at the convention, Biden called McCain to brag about royal support. McCain told him that she is technically "ex-royalty," and although he did concede that the future king was a coup, he wasn't sure why the kid cared one way or the other... |
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![]() wrote in message ... once again, a trivial aside.....man, Rick, you're slipping (I can just hear Wolfgang's response to that!)...... Frankly, I suspect Joe and wife haven't got the 10 bucks to go to the movies, since the economy, which has been purely driven by short-term stock returns since about, say, the election of Ronald Reagan, closed the plant a few years ago. Since the Bush Jr tax cuts, governments have been forced to raise pretty much every fee and levy, so those beers may be pinching the budget a bit, too, so probably, they'll listen to whatever is on the jukebox, not having the money to drop a buck or two into it. Finally, upon hearing the two stories, I can guarantee, based upon the local Central PA newspaper letter feedback, one will really **** them off. And, trust me, my friend, it ain't the one about SUVs. Get out there amongst the folks, Rick. Have Settlesworth drive you up to the Upper Midwest, or here, to Central PA or up in coal country. People are hurting, and they're ****ed. Now, I'm not saying that people will flock to Obama over that fact(Hillary proved that, adequately), but I will tell you that, in general, the GOP brand is about as well-regarded in some of these places as two day old dog ****. People may take a while to figure it out, but lots now see that they've been had by Republican fat cats fleecing them. The big get-even is starting. It may not even peak this year, but it's coming. And, no matter what end of the economic spectrum one occupies, we had all better hope that the trend of a polarized ''haves vs have-nots" nation, growing ever farther apart, ends soon, or the whole freaking lot of us are doomed. But, then again you've heard this whole rap before from me, right? Tom p.s. the above does not discuss, but certainly doesn't dismiss the fact that lots of folks on both sides of the aisle have contributed to this sorry-ass situation. It is just that the charge was led by Reagan, and cheerled by largely Republicans ever since....... |
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:38:52 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote: wrote in message .. . once again, a trivial aside.....man, Rick, you're slipping (I can just hear Wolfgang's response to that!)...... Frankly, I suspect Joe and wife haven't got the 10 bucks to go to the movies, since the economy, which has been purely driven by short-term stock returns since about, say, the election of Ronald Reagan, closed the plant a few years ago. Since the Bush Jr tax cuts, governments have been forced to raise pretty much every fee and levy, so those beers may be pinching the budget a bit, too, so probably, they'll listen to whatever is on the jukebox, not having the money to drop a buck or two into it. Finally, upon hearing the two stories, I can guarantee, based upon the local Central PA newspaper letter feedback, one will really **** them off. And, trust me, my friend, it ain't the one about SUVs. Get out there amongst the folks, Rick. You ever been to George County, MS? It's pretty hard to get more amongst the folks than there - you got Lucedale in the east and Benndale in the west, and the entire middle is, well, George County, MS...of course, so is the east and the west... Have Settlesworth drive you up to the Upper Midwest, or here, to Central PA or up in coal country. People are hurting, and they're ****ed. Now, I'm not saying that people will flock to Obama over that fact(Hillary proved that, adequately), but I will tell you that, in general, the GOP brand is about as well-regarded in some of these places as two day old dog ****. People may take a while to figure it out, but lots now see that they've been had by Republican fat cats fleecing them. The big get-even is starting. It may not even peak this year, but it's coming. And, no matter what end of the economic spectrum one occupies, we had all better hope that the trend of a polarized ''haves vs have-nots" nation, growing ever farther apart, ends soon, or the whole freaking lot of us are doomed. But, then again you've heard this whole rap before from me, right? Tom p.s. the above does not discuss, but certainly doesn't dismiss the fact that lots of folks on both sides of the aisle have contributed to this sorry-ass situation. It is just that the charge was led by Reagan, and cheerled by largely Republicans ever since....... I disagree with a lot of the above insofar as it'll all get laid (solely) on the GOP. I think most people don't really _know_ who "fleeced them" (and really, most such folks were not actually fleeced in the least, or if they were, they willingly and greedily participated in causing their own problems - for example, folks who went out and bought property they should have never bought, much less been allowed to finance), but they blame it on politicians in general. Look to Congress' approval rating versus Bush's - Bush ain't winning any popularity contests, but compared to Congress, he's doing pretty well. IAC, what I think you're seeing is more of a "who's the least bad" rather than "who's the better choice." And frankly, I don't see either Obama or McCain as the clear choice for "Joe Sixpack," which ever way they feel. TC, R |
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![]() wrote in message ... You ever been to George County, MS? It's pretty hard to get more amongst the folks than there - you got Lucedale in the east and Benndale in the west, and the entire middle is, well, George County, MS...of course, so is the east and the west... ok, I think I see a point coming here..... I disagree with a lot of the above insofar as it'll all get laid (solely) on the GOP. I think most people don't really _know_ who "fleeced them" (and really, most such folks were not actually fleeced in the least, or if they were, they willingly and greedily participated in causing their own problems - for example, folks who went out and bought property they should have never bought, much less been allowed to finance), but they blame it on politicians in general. Look to Congress' approval rating versus Bush's - Bush ain't winning any popularity contests, but compared to Congress, he's doing pretty well. IAC, what I think you're seeing is more of a "who's the least bad" rather than "who's the better choice." And frankly, I don't see either Obama or McCain as the clear choice for "Joe Sixpack," which ever way they feel. As is often the case, we can easily agree to disagree, but I see that you aren't really arguing my key point. Which is: If you think the working public, as a whole, doesn't react MUCH more viscerally to John McCain losing track of his houses, compared to some esoteric BS about convention transportation, you have lost touch. As I've stated, consistently, one of the things that frightens me, looking at the longer view, is an America pulling apart rich from poor, with no gradation. Such situations, historically, lead to either repression or revolution, and I wish neither on my descendants. For me, the questions this election are simple: 1.Can Obama pull together the best and brightest in the nation to attack a multitude of problems we face, and undo a host of problems created in the past 8 years(mainly due to a disdain by Republicans for intelligence, in deference to ideologic purity)? 2. Can Obama use the force of his personality to pull the nation together, post-election, to develop consensus on the host of common interests held in the nation, and move forward as a nation? 3. Does Obama truly understand the problems, and show the willingness to take advice in order to solve them(that is what a true Executive does, is it not?)? my answer to all the above is yes. I am convinced of that. Could John McCain do the same? Perhaps, but I have grave doubts. His age leaves him woefully out of touch with anything close to cutting edge thought. His focus on the military point of view leaves him myopic regarding most other social and economic matters(party, he admits as much). His temperment has, at times, been shown to be violently confrontational, when challenged. Finally, to secure his nomination, he has sold out to some of the same folks that brought us this divisive sack o **** we call US politics, at present. Perhaps, Obama's key strength, for me at least, is that he took down one of the other divisive centers(the Clinton camp), and owes the hard right nor the traditional Dem elite very little. .....as a friend of mine says, YMMV, Tom |
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:38:52 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote: or up in coal country. People are hurting, and they're ****ed. Now, I'm not saying that people will flock to Obama over that fact(Hillary proved that, adequately), but I will tell you that, in general, the GOP brand is about as well-regarded in some of these places as two day old dog ****. From CNN: "Poll: Race for White House tied" (post-Biden) http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/...oll/index.html particularly: "Sixty-six percent of Clinton supporters -- registered Democrats who want Clinton as the nominee -- are now backing Obama. That's down from 75 percent in the end of June. Twenty-seven percent of them now say they'll support McCain, up from 16 percent in late June." Look, if Darth, Rice, etc., were running, the whole "Bush's Third Term"/"It's the GOP's fault!" shtick might have more traction than it appears to have, but they aren't and it is looking like the Dems' attempt to convince people otherwise isn't working as well as they might like. TC, R |
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On Aug 25, 1:12*pm, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote:
yea, that's a laugh....my parking went up 350% this am in downtown denver.....thanx barrack hussein obama.... what a joke....... Hey, what happened to Bill, I thought everything was his fault (I figured, with all the practice you folks have had, you'd be able to keep your mythologies straight. Or is that scapegoats?). |
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On Aug 25, 6:57*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
....... As I've stated, consistently, one of the things that frightens me, looking at the longer view, is an America pulling apart rich from poor, with no gradation. |
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![]() wrote in message ... time will tell, time will tell........ Tom |
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