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Releasing a shark from a beach
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"Marcel K Haesok" wrote in message ... As yet I haven't had the experience of the said adventure. The other day I caught a shark from the beach and it was about twenty five pounds. And the thought occurred to me what would I do if much bigger shark was caught. Then I read somewhere that in order to release a fish in general, you ought not to play it too long, otherwise the fish will not revive; hence the article's recommended use of heavier tackle than lighter tackle. Thus penn 80 would result in 'quicker' release than penn 50. That's what I meant when I was pipe-dreaming about 250lb shark. But TC may be right, I may tire out myself before him with whatever tackle I use---- By the way, someone told me that it's not derigeur for a fisherman to pass on his rod to another fisherman---- that when you cannot handle a fish you ought to admit defeat and release him right away---- My friends' opinions were devided on this but I rather agree with it. Cheers. wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:14:12 -0700, "Marcel K Haesok" wrote: Hi all, Suppose I were to beach a 250lb shark, how do I release the hook from his mouse without endangering myself? This is supposing that I have used something like Penn 80 and quickly have beached him without tiring him out. The thought of "quickly beaching" a 250 pound shark is amusing. Cheers |
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Releasing a shark from a beach
Marcel K Haesok wrote:
As yet I haven't had the experience of the said adventure. The other day I caught a shark from the beach and it was about twenty five pounds. And the thought occurred to me what would I do if much bigger shark was caught. Then I read somewhere that in order to release a fish in general, you ought not to play it too long, otherwise the fish will not revive; hence the article's recommended use of heavier tackle than lighter tackle. Thus penn 80 would result in 'quicker' release than penn 50. That's what I meant when I was pipe-dreaming about 250lb shark. But TC may be right, I may tire out myself before him with whatever tackle I use---- By the way, someone told me that it's not derigeur for a fisherman to pass on his rod to another fisherman---- that when you cannot handle a fish you ought to admit defeat and release him right away---- My friends' opinions were devided on this but I rather agree with it. Cheers. wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:14:12 -0700, "Marcel K Haesok" wrote: Hi all, Suppose I were to beach a 250lb shark, how do I release the hook from his mouse without endangering myself? This is supposing that I have used something like Penn 80 and quickly have beached him without tiring him out. The thought of "quickly beaching" a 250 pound shark is amusing. Cheers There is tackle out there that is designed to "disolve". Thus, if you must leave a hook in the mouth, the animal will only have to endure it for a little while. Cutting the leader (sp) may not be a bad option. I have not used this type of tackle so I cannot really comment any further. |
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Releasing a shark from a beach
I can't seem to concentrate on my work because of this shark---
My head is whirling around how I should rig up the set up--- 1. First a dead salami on two good hooks with snell knot on --- 2. either 5 yard 300 lb wire leader or Fluorocarbon ( to counter shark-skin abrasion), connected to--- 3. 230 lb spro swivel, (on which the 8 ounce slip sinker sits) connected to 4. (since I detest fat profile of knots) one foot 200 lb power pro with Albright knot; connected to--- 5. twenty yards of 200 lb monofilament with albright knot again; connectedt to 6. one foot power pro again, connected to 7. 100 yards of 100 lb mono, connected to 8. 800 yards of 150 lb power pro. I may be overdoing it, or may have gotten the length wrong somewhere.......... "Marcel K Haesok" wrote in message ... As yet I haven't had the experience of the said adventure. The other day I caught a shark from the beach and it was about twenty five pounds. And the thought occurred to me what would I do if much bigger shark was caught. Then I read somewhere that in order to release a fish in general, you ought not to play it too long, otherwise the fish will not revive; hence the article's recommended use of heavier tackle than lighter tackle. Thus penn 80 would result in 'quicker' release than penn 50. That's what I meant when I was pipe-dreaming about 250lb shark. But TC may be right, I may tire out myself before him with whatever tackle I use---- By the way, someone told me that it's not derigeur for a fisherman to pass on his rod to another fisherman---- that when you cannot handle a fish you ought to admit defeat and release him right away---- My friends' opinions were devided on this but I rather agree with it. Cheers. wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:14:12 -0700, "Marcel K Haesok" wrote: Hi all, Suppose I were to beach a 250lb shark, how do I release the hook from his mouse without endangering myself? This is supposing that I have used something like Penn 80 and quickly have beached him without tiring him out. The thought of "quickly beaching" a 250 pound shark is amusing. Cheers |
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Marcel wrote:
I can't seem to concentrate on my work because of this shark--- My head is whirling around how I should rig up the set up--- 1. First a dead salami on two good hooks with snell knot on --- 2. either 5 yard 300 lb wire leader or Fluorocarbon ( to counter shark-skin abrasion), connected to--- 3. 230 lb spro swivel, (on which the 8 ounce slip sinker sits) connected to 4. (since I detest fat profile of knots) one foot 200 lb power pro with Albright knot; connected to--- 5. twenty yards of 200 lb monofilament with albright knot again; connectedt to 6. one foot power pro again, connected to 7. 100 yards of 100 lb mono, connected to 8. 800 yards of 150 lb power pro. I may be overdoing it, or may have gotten the length wrong somewhere.......... Your Big time overdoing it, you can land a 1200# great white with that rig 9/0 Mustad,, single hook I use two feet of single strand 100# SS then 30 feet of 100# Spectra (shock leader) Then 600 yds of 20# Mono I've caught sharks up to 500# from the beach with that set up, I have never been cut or broke off I use 3 to 5 Oz egg weight, (just enough to hold the bait in place) and can throw this rig way out, from my 12 foot custom rod -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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Releasing a shark from a beach
Marcel wrote:
I can't seem to concentrate on my work because of this shark--- My head is whirling around how I should rig up the set up--- 1. First a dead salami on two good hooks with snell knot on --- 2. either 5 yard 300 lb wire leader or Fluorocarbon ( to counter shark-skin abrasion), connected to--- 3. 230 lb spro swivel, (on which the 8 ounce slip sinker sits) connected to 4. (since I detest fat profile of knots) one foot 200 lb power pro with Albright knot; connected to--- 5. twenty yards of 200 lb monofilament with albright knot again; connectedt to 6. one foot power pro again, connected to 7. 100 yards of 100 lb mono, connected to 8. 800 yards of 150 lb power pro. I may be overdoing it, or may have gotten the length wrong somewhere.......... Your Big time overdoing it, you can land a 1200# great white with that rig 9/0 Mustad,, single hook I use two feet of single strand 100# SS then 30 feet of 100# Spectra (shock leader) Then 600 yds of 20# Mono I've caught sharks up to 500# from the beach with that set up, I have never been cut or broke off I use 3 to 5 Oz egg weight, (just enough to hold the bait in place) and can throw this rig way out, from my 12 foot custom rod -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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Releasing a shark from a beach
It just bowls me over why would a 1000 lb shark nibble at a tiny fly.
wrote in message ... Shark Fishers Might Be Interested In This Upcoming Event... *** Twenty Third Annual Great White Shark Fly fishing Tournament PORT LINCOLN, AUSTRALIA - Deep Action Tours, Inc. of Los Angeles, U.S.A. is once again sponsoring the Annual Great White Shark Fly fishing Tournament in Port Lincoln, on the southwestern coast of Australia. This area is renowned for its relatively numerous white shark population, and was the site of the two previous annual tournaments. Last year's anglers will, with a few exceptions, all be participating again this year, along with a slew of rookies attracted to this ultimate test of fly-fishing skill. The waters off Port Lincoln provide an ideal location for this event. A deep channel runs between an outer and an inner reef. The outer reef provides a breakwater for ocean waves, the channel is patrolled by hungry "white pointers" attracted by several days of chumming, and the calm inner reef provides relatively secure footing for heavily booted, wading fly-fishermen fishing the channel. At low tide, the depth of water over the inner reef is often less than a foot, providing fisherman some protection from angry but large sharks. Extra tough boots are necessary to protect feet from slippery and sharp coral. Bob Turgann, last year's winner of the tournament, was surprisingly open about his winning fishing tactics. His catch, a 952-pounder, was taken on a No. 14 Midge fly, with some slight peacock hackle added to provide extra sparkle. Mr. Turgann's secret? "I have consistently caught sharks, and especially the cagey great whites, on a very long, very light monofilament tapered leader, ending in two-pound test at the tippet," says Mr. Turgann. "Many people think you need a metal leader, but it's just not true. A two-pound leader is thin enough to slip between the shark's teeth, way down in the gum, and not get cut." Mr. Turgann stated that it took him approximately six days to land his winning fish. "1500 yards of backing is an absolute minimum," he says. "Those big sharks can really run if they want to." The runner-up, Carlos Lopez, landed an 822-pound fish using a No. 16 Gordon Quill and a weight-forward floating fly line. Mr. Lopez agrees that monofilament leaders are the way to go. "I've seen a lot of guys using steel leaders out here, but they just don't cast well," he says. "They make a big splash and can spook the fish, and of course, try fishing a small dry fly with a steel leader! It's not going to happen." The experts all seem to agree that dry flies take the most great whites. "Bucktails are sometimes successful, with an occasional nymph, but dry flies produce the most consistently," says Mr. Lopez. The entry fee for this event is $250, half of which goes toward conservation efforts to protect the great white shark, which is in danger of extinction according to experts. A strict catch-and-release policy is followed, something which makes Mr. Turgann a little uneasy. "Somewhere out there in the sea is a thousand-pound great white shark that has a grudge against me", he jokes. The prize? $500, and the fame that comes with landing Nature's second-greatest predator on fly-fishing tackle. Second-greatest? For the year 2005, Deep Action Tours has something special planned: the First Annual Killer Whale Cane-Pole Fishing Tournament. Mr. Turgann plans to be there. *** |
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Releasing a shark from a beach
It just bowls me over why would a 1000 lb shark nibble at a tiny fly.
wrote in message ... Shark Fishers Might Be Interested In This Upcoming Event... *** Twenty Third Annual Great White Shark Fly fishing Tournament PORT LINCOLN, AUSTRALIA - Deep Action Tours, Inc. of Los Angeles, U.S.A. is once again sponsoring the Annual Great White Shark Fly fishing Tournament in Port Lincoln, on the southwestern coast of Australia. This area is renowned for its relatively numerous white shark population, and was the site of the two previous annual tournaments. Last year's anglers will, with a few exceptions, all be participating again this year, along with a slew of rookies attracted to this ultimate test of fly-fishing skill. The waters off Port Lincoln provide an ideal location for this event. A deep channel runs between an outer and an inner reef. The outer reef provides a breakwater for ocean waves, the channel is patrolled by hungry "white pointers" attracted by several days of chumming, and the calm inner reef provides relatively secure footing for heavily booted, wading fly-fishermen fishing the channel. At low tide, the depth of water over the inner reef is often less than a foot, providing fisherman some protection from angry but large sharks. Extra tough boots are necessary to protect feet from slippery and sharp coral. Bob Turgann, last year's winner of the tournament, was surprisingly open about his winning fishing tactics. His catch, a 952-pounder, was taken on a No. 14 Midge fly, with some slight peacock hackle added to provide extra sparkle. Mr. Turgann's secret? "I have consistently caught sharks, and especially the cagey great whites, on a very long, very light monofilament tapered leader, ending in two-pound test at the tippet," says Mr. Turgann. "Many people think you need a metal leader, but it's just not true. A two-pound leader is thin enough to slip between the shark's teeth, way down in the gum, and not get cut." Mr. Turgann stated that it took him approximately six days to land his winning fish. "1500 yards of backing is an absolute minimum," he says. "Those big sharks can really run if they want to." The runner-up, Carlos Lopez, landed an 822-pound fish using a No. 16 Gordon Quill and a weight-forward floating fly line. Mr. Lopez agrees that monofilament leaders are the way to go. "I've seen a lot of guys using steel leaders out here, but they just don't cast well," he says. "They make a big splash and can spook the fish, and of course, try fishing a small dry fly with a steel leader! It's not going to happen." The experts all seem to agree that dry flies take the most great whites. "Bucktails are sometimes successful, with an occasional nymph, but dry flies produce the most consistently," says Mr. Lopez. The entry fee for this event is $250, half of which goes toward conservation efforts to protect the great white shark, which is in danger of extinction according to experts. A strict catch-and-release policy is followed, something which makes Mr. Turgann a little uneasy. "Somewhere out there in the sea is a thousand-pound great white shark that has a grudge against me", he jokes. The prize? $500, and the fame that comes with landing Nature's second-greatest predator on fly-fishing tackle. Second-greatest? For the year 2005, Deep Action Tours has something special planned: the First Annual Killer Whale Cane-Pole Fishing Tournament. Mr. Turgann plans to be there. *** |
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Releasing a shark from a beach
D'oh. Kerry's a damned good shot with a shotgun. There's no way you can shoot as well as he does without practice. And what do you base that on? I'm assuming you've been to the range with him? Where do you find the time with all the political posts you make? |
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And what do you base that on? I'm assuming you've been to the range with him? Where do you find the time with all the political posts you make? Two first-hand reports from friends who have gone trap shooting with him. Sorry Harry - I'd have to see it to believe it. Based on his voting record and firearms related comments he's made I think his only recent association with firearms are photo ops. |
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Releasing a shark from a beach
And what do you base that on? I'm assuming you've been to the range with him? Where do you find the time with all the political posts you make? Two first-hand reports from friends who have gone trap shooting with him. Sorry Harry - I'd have to see it to believe it. Based on his voting record and firearms related comments he's made I think his only recent association with firearms are photo ops. |
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