No fish

Todd wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Todd wrote:
My problem is that I tend to fish everything wet. ...

Dude, if you think it's worthwhile to listen to Rush Limbaugh
for anything other than comic relief then fishing wet flies
is the least of your problems.

You really need to listen to Rush just a little bit
before jumping to conclusions. When did liberals
become so close minded? They use to love to debate
and know what the other side thought. Not any more.

I've listened to enough of Limbaugh's drivel to know that
anyone who mistakes that nonsense for serious political
commentary has **** for brains and is easily duped. And
that is an opinion from someone who is more open-minded
than an idiot like you will ever be.

I'd really love to know your thoughts on the wet fly
problem. Just because you are a liberal, doesn't
mean you do not know how to fish.

I don't have a problem with wet flies. I don't use them
when the fish are attacking hopper patterns with reckless
abandon, that would be as stupid as listening to Limbaugh.
Apparently you have a problem with losing a lot of wet flies
to the rocks. All I can advise is ponder the question; "How
do you get to Carnegie Hall ?".

And remember this Todd, if Jesus were walking the earth today
he would be a liberal and he would kick the **** out of the
Limbaughs of this world just like he kicked the **** out of
the vendors in the temple.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Sep 8, 4:50*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Todd wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Todd wrote:
My problem is that I tend to fish everything wet. ...

Dude, if you think it's worthwhile to listen to Rush Limbaugh
for anything other than comic relief then fishing wet flies
is the least of your problems.

You really need to listen to Rush just a little bit
before jumping to conclusions. *When did liberals
become so close minded? They use to love to debate
and know what the other side thought. * Not any more.

I've listened to enough of Limbaugh's drivel to know that
anyone who mistakes that nonsense for serious political
commentary has **** for brains and is easily duped. And
that is an opinion from someone who is more open-minded
than an idiot like you will ever be.

I'd really love to know your thoughts on the wet fly
problem. *Just because you are a liberal, doesn't
mean you do not know how to fish.

I don't have a problem with wet flies. I don't use them
when the fish are attacking hopper patterns with reckless
abandon, that would be as stupid as listening to Limbaugh.
Apparently you have a problem with losing a lot of wet flies
to the rocks. All I can advise is ponder the question; "How
do you get to Carnegie Hall ?".

And remember this Todd, if Jesus were walking the earth today
he would be a liberal and he would kick the **** out of the
Limbaughs of this world just like he kicked the **** out of
the vendors in the temple.

Haysoos does walk the earth today. He lives three doors down. He
smells as bad as he undoubtedly did last time around and he's crazy as
a ****house fly.....just like last time around. He doesn't kick the
**** out of anybody.....just like last time around.....and he isn't
going to.....just like last time around

moron.

g.
ya'd think that what with the wild popularity of "reality" shows on
television these days, somebody or other would have at least a mild
passing interest in reality.....ya'd think, ainna?

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

I've listened to enough of Limbaugh's drivel to know that
anyone who mistakes that nonsense for serious political
commentary has **** for brains and is easily duped. And
that is an opinion from someone who is more open-minded
than an idiot like you will ever be.

Hi Ken,

I have a close, dear liberal friend whose opinion
I highly respect. He is fascinating to listen to
when he has researched a subject. I may have been
projecting his personality on to you because you
were both liberal.

He also listens to Rush, but only the sound clips
he hears on leftist MSNBC, etc.. Quite a few times
he has complained to me about something Rush has
said that I actually heard the entire statement on
Rush's show. When I told him the entire statement,
he was puzzled as to how something could be presented
so out of context (bearing false witness by the way).

Since you sound so similar to my fried on Rush, I
thought you were doing the same thing: listening
to things out of context.

And, since I love to hear my friends well reasoned
opinions, I was thinking you were capable of the same.
You are not him and for this I apologize.

And remember this Todd, if Jesus were walking the earth today
he would be a liberal and he would kick the **** out of the
Limbaughs of this world just like he kicked the **** out of
the vendors in the temple.

This first time you said something like this, I thought
you were kidding and had a great laugh. I told you
you needed to go fishing (as if any of us really needed
on excuse). Now I realize you were not.

For Jesus to be a liberal would require serious revisions
to those 10 commandments. For example: Thou shalt not covet
thy neighbors possessions (socialism, class envy); Thou
shalt not bear false witness (you hear Kennedy carry
on about judge Bork and Thomas?); Thou shalt have no
other gods before me (liberalism is a competing religion
with Christianity); and my all time favorite, *Thou
shalt not murder* (abortion, infanticide, snowing granny).

So, no he would not be a liberal.
-T

Oh, and Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife, but that is more
a Clinton/Kennedy thing.

You know, Oboma votes three time to leave infants to die
of exposure in the Illinois legislature because it
would over ride the original decision of the mother
to murder ("abort" was his word) her child. Now that
is really, really cold blooded. Might even say "evil"

Todd wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:

I've listened to enough of Limbaugh's drivel to know that
anyone who mistakes that nonsense for serious political
commentary has **** for brains and is easily duped. And
that is an opinion from someone who is more open-minded
than an idiot like you will ever be.

Hi Ken,

I have a close, dear liberal friend whose opinion
I highly respect. He is fascinating to listen to
when he has researched a subject. I may have been
projecting his personality on to you because you
were both liberal.

He also listens to Rush, but only the sound clips
he hears on leftist MSNBC, etc.. Quite a few times
he has complained to me about something Rush has
said that I actually heard the entire statement on
Rush's show. When I told him the entire statement,
he was puzzled as to how something could be presented
so out of context (bearing false witness by the way).

Since you sound so similar to my fried on Rush, I
thought you were doing the same thing: listening
to things out of context.

Limbaugh is a clown, a running joke, an embarrassment
to thinking conservatives and he most certainly does
not represent the educated and articulate conservative
point of view in a debate between liberals and conservatives.
For reasoned conservative discourse you'll need to read, as
I do, Krauthammer, Will, Brooks, Gerson, Gingrich and Cal
Thomas. Listening to Limbaugh is in no way listening to a
reasoned opinion.

If you really want work on curing your abysmal ignorance
subscribe to this new quarterly and read it cover to cover:

http://www.nationalaffairs.com/

You'll find essays with meat on them from both conservatives
and liberals instead of the steady diet of feel-good cotton
candy Limbaugh dishes out to entertain morons like you.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Limbaugh is a clown, a running joke, an embarrassment
to thinking conservatives and he most certainly does
not represent the educated and articulate conservative
point of view in a debate between liberals and conservatives.
For reasoned conservative discourse you'll need to read, as
I do, Krauthammer, Will, Brooks, Gerson, Gingrich and Cal
Thomas. Listening to Limbaugh is in no way listening to a
reasoned opinion.

If you really want work on curing your abysmal ignorance
subscribe to this new quarterly and read it cover to cover:

http://www.nationalaffairs.com/

You'll find essays with meat on them from both conservatives
and liberals instead of the steady diet of feel-good cotton
candy Limbaugh dishes out to entertain morons like you.


As I listen to Rush, I can tell you he actually
very articulate. So, we will have to disagree on that one.

Just as an aside, all the swearing and name calling
makes your argument very weak.

Thank you for the link. I will check it out.
-T

Todd wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Limbaugh is a clown, a running joke, an embarrassment
to thinking conservatives and he most certainly does
not represent the educated and articulate conservative
point of view in a debate between liberals and conservatives.
For reasoned conservative discourse you'll need to read, as
I do, Krauthammer, Will, Brooks, Gerson, Gingrich and Cal
Thomas. Listening to Limbaugh is in no way listening to a
reasoned opinion.

If you really want work on curing your abysmal ignorance
subscribe to this new quarterly and read it cover to cover:

http://www.nationalaffairs.com/

You'll find essays with meat on them from both conservatives
and liberals instead of the steady diet of feel-good cotton
candy Limbaugh dishes out to entertain morons like you.


As I listen to Rush, I can tell you he actually
very articulate. So, we will have to disagree on that one.

Just as an aside, all the swearing and name calling
makes your argument very weak.

Go **** yourself, nitwit. You are way too stupid to merit
civil discourse.

Thank you for the link. I will check it out.

Yeah, sure you will.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Sep 9, 12:31*pm, Todd wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Limbaugh is a clown, a running joke, an embarrassment
to thinking conservatives and he most certainly does
not represent the educated and articulate conservative
point of view in a debate between liberals and conservatives.
For reasoned conservative discourse you'll need to read, as
I do, Krauthammer, Will, Brooks, Gerson, Gingrich and Cal
Thomas. Listening to Limbaugh is in no way listening to a
reasoned opinion.

If you really want work on curing your abysmal ignorance
subscribe to this new quarterly and read it cover to cover:

http://www.nationalaffairs.com/

You'll find essays with meat on them from both conservatives
and liberals instead of the steady diet of feel-good cotton
candy Limbaugh dishes out to entertain morons like you.

As I listen to Rush, I can tell you he actually
very articulate. *So, we will have to disagree on that one.

Just as an aside, all the swearing and name calling
makes your argument very weak.

Thank you for the link. *I will check it out.
-T- Hide quoted text -

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Rush is a druggie, plain and simple. Sadly, Rush is on record as a
sufferer of a disease/affliction often associated with unprotected
anal abuse, given as the reason he obtained large quantities of drugs
illegally. Rush has failed in an abnormal number of heterosexual
relationships. Rush has had a limited formal education. Rush had
trouble with his computational skills and numbers in general. Rush is
a glutton, a heavy smoker and drinker. Do you think these life
experiences influence his thinking? Are these some of his qualities
that attract you to him? Why?

Dave

On Sep 9, 2:31*pm, Todd wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Limbaugh is a clown, a running joke, an embarrassment
to thinking conservatives and he most certainly does
not represent the educated and articulate conservative
point of view in a debate between liberals and conservatives.
For reasoned conservative discourse you'll need to read, as
I do, Krauthammer, Will, Brooks, Gerson, Gingrich and Cal
Thomas. Listening to Limbaugh is in no way listening to a
reasoned opinion.

If you really want work on curing your abysmal ignorance
subscribe to this new quarterly and read it cover to cover:

http://www.nationalaffairs.com/

You'll find essays with meat on them from both conservatives
and liberals instead of the steady diet of feel-good cotton
candy Limbaugh dishes out to entertain morons like you.

As I listen to Rush, I can tell you he actually
very articulate. *So, we will have to disagree on that one.

Just as an aside, all the swearing and name calling
makes your argument very weak.

Thank you for the link. *I will check it out.
-T- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

DaveS wrote:
Rush is a druggie, plain and simple. Sadly, Rush is on record as a
sufferer of a disease/affliction often associated with unprotected
anal abuse, given as the reason he obtained large quantities of drugs
illegally. Rush has failed in an abnormal number of heterosexual
relationships. Rush has had a limited formal education. Rush had
trouble with his computational skills and numbers in general. Rush is
a glutton, a heavy smoker and drinker. Do you think these life
experiences influence his thinking? Are these some of his qualities
that attract you to him? Why?

Dave

Hi Dave,

I know a lot of very smart people that did not go to
college and a lot of dumb ones that did. Ditto
for those who don't know what the "any key" is and
those that smoke. I know a lot of divorced people too
of all shades. Those qualities have zero to do
with one's ability to form a decent argument.

Rush' prescription drug problems were from that evil
oxi-crap stuff he was taking for his back, not his anus.
That evil oxi-crap is a one dose addition. A lot of
people hate Rush and make a lot of nasty stuff up about him.
Be careful of your sources. (The oxi-crap/back problems
I heard out of his own mouth.)

I believe in limited government, freedom, and personal responsibility.
Rush agrees with me. He does a very good job or articulating these
values. By the way, because a person disagrees with you, does not
mean he is not articulate. A lot of us conservatives think
that [Bill] Clinton was the consummate politician, disagree
with him as we may. The same goes for our current president and
his silver tongued teleprompter (articulate but not a very
good politician, Clinton runs circles around him).

May I point out that Martin Luther King was an absolute pig
in his personal life (hookers, communists, plagiarism).
It is his words that I am listening to. Judging people
by the strength of their character rather than the color
of their skin is moral point that should resonate with all
of us, even if he did plagiarize that too.

Are Martin Luther King's words to be discounted
because he had a thing for white hookers? Judge Rush by
his words and leave his personal life out of it. (By
"words", I mean words out of his own mouth, not hatchet
jobs by political commentators/propagandists posing
unbiased journalists.)

By the way, there is nothing wrong with saying "I don't
listen to [insert name here] because I do not like him
so I will not comment on what I did not hear him say".

Agreeing with Rush's and Dr. King's words, does not make
me want to emulate either of their personal lives. And,
yes, it is a pity that Rush can not stay married for his
life. (It is easy, just listen to your wives. That
would be St. Paul's teaching. Pampering them a little
bit helps too.)

Thank you for just stating your point and forgoing the
swearing and name calling (Brown Shirt tactics). Makes
a person much more likely to listen to you and not think
you are intolerant and close minded (and just plain mean and
uncivil). I have a close liberal friend and I love to hear
his analysis of things as he does mine. In the end, we agree
on almost nothing, but we both appreciate the other hearing
us out and respecting the others thoughts. Respect is
a good thing in a friendship.

And lastly HAVE YOU DONE ANY FISHING LATELY! :-)

-T

On Sep 11, 4:28*pm, Todd wrote:
DaveS wrote:
Rush is a druggie, plain and simple. Sadly, Rush is on record as a
sufferer of a disease/affliction often associated with unprotected
anal abuse, given as the reason he obtained large quantities of drugs
illegally. Rush has failed in an abnormal number of heterosexual
relationships. Rush has had a limited formal education. Rush had
trouble with his computational skills and numbers in general. Rush is
a glutton, a heavy smoker and drinker. Do you think these life
experiences influence his thinking? Are these some of his qualities
that attract you to him? Why?

Dave

Hi Dave,

I know a lot of very smart people that did not go to
college and a lot of dumb ones that did. *Ditto
for those who don't know what the "any key" is and
those that smoke. *I know a lot of divorced people too
of all shades. *Those qualities have zero to do
with one's ability to form a decent argument.

Rush' prescription drug problems were from that evil
oxi-crap stuff he was taking for his back, not his anus.
That evil oxi-crap is a one dose addition. *A lot of
people hate Rush and make a lot of nasty stuff up about him.
Be careful of your sources. *(The oxi-crap/back problems
I heard out of his own mouth.)

I believe in limited government, freedom, and personal responsibility.
Rush agrees with me. *He does a very good job or articulating these
values. *By the way, because a person disagrees with you, does not
mean he is not articulate. *A lot of us conservatives think
that [Bill] Clinton was the consummate politician, disagree
with him as we may. *The same goes for our current president and
his silver tongued teleprompter (articulate but not a very
good politician, Clinton runs circles around him).

May I point out that Martin Luther King was an absolute pig
in his personal life (hookers, communists, plagiarism).
It is his words that I am listening to. *Judging people
by the strength of their character rather than the color
of their skin is moral point that should resonate with all
of us, even if he did plagiarize that too.

Are Martin Luther King's words to be discounted
because he had a thing for white hookers? *Judge Rush by
his words and leave his personal life out of it. *(By
"words", I mean words out of his own mouth, not hatchet
jobs by political commentators/propagandists posing
unbiased journalists.)

By the way, there is nothing wrong with saying "I don't
listen to [insert name here] because I do not like him
so I will not comment on what I did not hear him say".

Agreeing with Rush's and Dr. King's words, does not make
me want to emulate either of their personal lives. *And,
yes, it is a pity that Rush can not stay married for his
life. *(It is easy, just listen to your wives. *That
would be St. Paul's teaching. *Pampering them a little
bit helps too.)

Thank you for just stating your point and forgoing the
swearing and name calling (Brown Shirt tactics). *Makes
a person much more likely to listen to you and not think
you are intolerant and close minded (and just plain mean and
uncivil). *I have a close liberal friend and I love to hear
his analysis of things as he does mine. *In the end, we agree
on almost nothing, but we both appreciate the other hearing
us out and respecting the others thoughts. *Respect is
a good thing in a friendship.

And lastly HAVE YOU DONE ANY FISHING LATELY! :-)

-T
But you really are avoiding the question.
Rush has been and for all i know still is a drug addict, with an anus
centered affliction often associated with rough anal sex. He is a
heavy smoker and drinker, a glutton, apparently a lousy husband and
date, can't count, sucks the juice out of old harmonicas and ****es
crooked.

Do you think these life experiences influence his thinking? Are these
some of his qualities that attract you to him? Why?

And yes I fish, for fish.

Dave
Maybe you should take this to Alt: MYPrisonMinistry. rec.indoor.oxi ?