![]() |
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Hi all, the other day I went down to the local lake and threw out some
bread near the weeds waited a bit then tossed my cast net. I was surprised to find some nice wild shiners in the net. For some reason I had thought the lake mostly held bream. This got me thinking it would not take much to feed and attract many more shiners. So my question is what are the best feeds to use that might attract the shiners but maybe discourage the bream some? What I have observed is the bream are quick to take bread on the surface but the shiners seem to like to stay down a bit, does that sound right? Maybe a feed that sinks would work best??? Thanks, DC -- Dale Colemam |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
![]() "Dale Coleman" wrote in message s.com... Hi all, the other day I went down to the local lake and threw out some bread near the weeds waited a bit then tossed my cast net. I was surprised to find some nice wild shiners in the net. For some reason I had thought the lake mostly held bream. This got me thinking it would not take much to feed and attract many more shiners. So my question is what are the best feeds to use that might attract the shiners but maybe discourage the bream some? What I have observed is the bream are quick to take bread on the surface but the shiners seem to like to stay down a bit, does that sound right? Maybe a feed that sinks would work best??? You might want to try using some dry dog food, or punch some holes in a can of dog food, tie a string to it and throw it in. I've heard that's what the wild shiner trappers in Florida do. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
When I asked about catching minnows in the Ask Lannes forum he suggested
using a ball of congealed blood like form a butcher shop. http://www.yumabassman.com/cgi-bin/y...m=107967 8474 or http://tinyurl.com/3culc -- Public Fishing Forums Fishing Link Index www.YumaBassMan.com webmaster at YumaBsssMan dot com "Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in message ... "Dale Coleman" wrote in message s.com... Hi all, the other day I went down to the local lake and threw out some bread near the weeds waited a bit then tossed my cast net. I was surprised to find some nice wild shiners in the net. For some reason I had thought the lake mostly held bream. This got me thinking it would not take much to feed and attract many more shiners. So my question is what are the best feeds to use that might attract the shiners but maybe discourage the bream some? What I have observed is the bream are quick to take bread on the surface but the shiners seem to like to stay down a bit, does that sound right? Maybe a feed that sinks would work best??? You might want to try using some dry dog food, or punch some holes in a can of dog food, tie a string to it and throw it in. I've heard that's what the wild shiner trappers in Florida do. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
I once had good luck attracting red shiners by suspending a stick at the
surface of the water that I had dipped in Hog Wild catfish stink bait. I took a stick about three feet long and dipped one end in the Hog Wild jar. Then I wedged the stick in some rocks so the stinking end was suspended right in the surface of the water. After a few mintues there were about thirty little red shiners sucking the stuff of the stick. A dip net quickly put them in the bait bucket. Repeats of this netted (pun intended) more of the little guys. After about five or six times they tapered off, but I had more than enough minnows for the day. In fact I threw most of them back. -- Public Fishing Forums Fishing Link Index www.YumaBassMan.com webmaster at YumaBsssMan dot com "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... When I asked about catching minnows in the Ask Lannes forum he suggested using a ball of congealed blood like form a butcher shop. http://www.yumabassman.com/cgi-bin/y...m=107967 8474 or http://tinyurl.com/3culc -- Public Fishing Forums Fishing Link Index www.YumaBassMan.com webmaster at YumaBsssMan dot com "Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in message ... "Dale Coleman" wrote in message s.com... Hi all, the other day I went down to the local lake and threw out some bread near the weeds waited a bit then tossed my cast net. I was surprised to find some nice wild shiners in the net. For some reason I had thought the lake mostly held bream. This got me thinking it would not take much to feed and attract many more shiners. So my question is what are the best feeds to use that might attract the shiners but maybe discourage the bream some? What I have observed is the bream are quick to take bread on the surface but the shiners seem to like to stay down a bit, does that sound right? Maybe a feed that sinks would work best??? You might want to try using some dry dog food, or punch some holes in a can of dog food, tie a string to it and throw it in. I've heard that's what the wild shiner trappers in Florida do. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
There's not much that will not attract the bream, but oatmeal is good for
shiners too. "Dale Coleman" wrote in message s.com... Hi all, the other day I went down to the local lake and threw out some bread near the weeds waited a bit then tossed my cast net. I was surprised to find some nice wild shiners in the net. For some reason I had thought the lake mostly held bream. This got me thinking it would not take much to feed and attract many more shiners. So my question is what are the best feeds to use that might attract the shiners but maybe discourage the bream some? What I have observed is the bream are quick to take bread on the surface but the shiners seem to like to stay down a bit, does that sound right? Maybe a feed that sinks would work best??? Thanks, DC -- Dale Colemam |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Just get a minnow trap ( galvanized wire mesh 2 piece ) at Wally's about $9
I think . Then what I did is add a small wire bait box to the inside, to keep the litle buggers from sucking it out from the outside . or a bait bag of some kind might work also . I generally start with just bread .. if that isn't quite enough , or the minnows are too small add something with garlic or cheese ( even slices of cheese broken into small enough pieces to fit the bait holder. Ed "Dale Coleman" wrote in message s.com... Hi all, the other day I went down to the local lake and threw out some bread near the weeds waited a bit then tossed my cast net. I was surprised to find some nice wild shiners in the net. For some reason I had thought the lake mostly held bream. This got me thinking it would not take much to feed and attract many more shiners. So my question is what are the best feeds to use that might attract the shiners but maybe discourage the bream some? What I have observed is the bream are quick to take bread on the surface but the shiners seem to like to stay down a bit, does that sound right? Maybe a feed that sinks would work best??? Thanks, DC -- Dale Colemam |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
On Fri, 07 May 2004 21:55:43 GMT, "Ed Hughes"
wrote: Just get a minnow trap ( galvanized wire mesh 2 piece ) at Wally's about $9 I think . Then what I did is add a small wire bait box to the inside, to keep the litle buggers from sucking it out from the outside . or a bait bag of some kind might work also . I generally start with just bread .. if that isn't quite enough , or the minnows are too small add something with garlic or cheese ( even slices of cheese broken into small enough pieces to fit the bait holder. Ed Hi Ed and the group, I think there may be some confusion over the type of Shiner I'm trying to catch. They are called the Golden Shiner and grow to over 12 inches long. Even the smaller ones that I'm trying to catch for bass bait are much too big for a minnow trap. Using a cast net is the best way to catch them. A multi hook poll will also work in some areas but every time I tried it the bream would get there first. Even with the cast net I'm still running about 4 bream to each shiner but when you make a nice cast and get 40 fish in the net the numbers don't look so bad ;-) Thanks, DC "Dale Coleman" wrote in message ws.com... Hi all, the other day I went down to the local lake and threw out some bread near the weeds waited a bit then tossed my cast net. I was surprised to find some nice wild shiners in the net. For some reason I had thought the lake mostly held bream. This got me thinking it would not take much to feed and attract many more shiners. So my question is what are the best feeds to use that might attract the shiners but maybe discourage the bream some? What I have observed is the bream are quick to take bread on the surface but the shiners seem to like to stay down a bit, does that sound right? Maybe a feed that sinks would work best??? Thanks, DC -- Dale Colemam -- Dale Colemam |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Ok may I be the first to suggest Dwayne's post be added to the FAQ. Dwayne
you could good give attorney's a good name. ;-) Sorry, could not resist. When I lived on the Otter Tail River in Minnesota I used to catch Redtail Chubs similar to your item 3. They are the Minnesota version of fishing with big shiners. In fact when Al Lindner was on the BASS trail in the early days before artificial only, he took the back seat out of an old Chevy and put a stock tank in with a homemade aeration system to carry Redtails down south. (Rich Z am I correct?) Joe Z. "Dwayne E. Cooper" wrote in message ... Lotta guys don't know this..but shiner fishing can be a blast... My background: Before I started guiding down on Okeechobee back in the 80's, I researched the shiner industry hot n' heavy and got to know most of the commercial shiner fishermen and marinas down there. Basically, I had a list of guys I could count on in case the supply got low. I also spent a lot of time "every day - mornings are best" baiting holes and catching shiners...so we had a backup source of shiners in case the supply was really low that year. (If you are a guide and don't have shiners...you are pretty much out of business down there). I'm proud to say that we never ran out of shiners. We had 2 huge tanks set up at our cabin to hold our reserve shiners. I had another huge tank in the back of my pickup truck that I used when I needed to transport shiners (pretty much all the time). Every morning, I'd usually pick up 10 to 12 dozen fresh shiners daily and take em' to our boats that were always on a slip in the rim canal. This was always done before we did the last minute marina stop (for coffee, snacks and whatever) and last minute update of the weather report. Want to catch your own supply of shiners? From a guy who's caught thousands of shiners (by rod and net)...here's how: 1. Pick 5 likely spots to target shiners. (ie. opening of small trails/ditches, outside edge of eelgrass/pads) and bait these spots with a healthy scoop or two of hog feed (higher protein than dogfood and won't float away - trust me, don't use dog food!). If you can't find hog feed (try your local Co-Op)...any other feed with high percentage of protein will work (as long as it doesn't float). 2. Wait at least 1 day (2 days preferred) and come back and throw out a small handful of oats in the area. Wait 5 minutes and watch the water for signs of activity. 3. Use a 10' cast net and toss out. It takes a long time to get this down right... Practice like crazy before hand bc you have to make your 1st cast count! OR 3. To catch by pole: Boil up some spaghetti and roll it in the smallest of balls (no bigger than 3/16th of an inch in diameter). Put it on the smallest of long shank hooks...I'm thinking at least a #14 or #16...smaller if you can find em'... Use a long crappie rod (longer the better so you don't scare em'...14' foot is fine) with the smallest bobber available (no bigger than a 1/2 inch in diameter). When the bobber just barely starts to move downward...gently lif upward and toward your boat. (Do not set the hook! Just lift the rod slightly and swing into the bank/boat. The swing should land on the bank or boat). 2 guys can get 4 to 6 dozen in an hour or two if they know what they are doing. Don't worry about the bluegill, catsigh and bass that will frequent your shiner holes. There's nothing you can do about that except catch em! -- Dwayne E. Cooper, Atty at Law Indianapolis, IN Email: Web Page: http://www.cooperlegalservices.com Personal Fishing Web Page: http://www.hoosierwebsites.com/OnTheWater Favorite Fishing Web Page: http://www.hoosiertradingpost.com/FishingTackle 1st Annual ROFB Classic Winner |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
"Dwayne E. Cooper" wrote in message 3. Use a 10' cast net and toss out.
It takes a long time to get this down right... Practice like crazy before hand bc you have to make your 1st cast count! Check Local regs before using any cast net. 3' radius (6' diameter) is the largets legal cast net for use in Arizona, and I'm pretty sure they aren't allowed in California at all. OR 3. To catch by pole: Boil up some spaghetti and roll it in the smallest of balls (no bigger than 3/16th of an inch in diameter). Put it on the smallest of long shank hooks...I'm thinking at least a #14 or #16...smaller if you can find em'... Use a long crappie rod Again check your local regs. Many states limit the number of hooks you can use. I have seen guys doing this with pole that have fifteen or twenty hooks. While effective only two are allowed in Arizona. Check your local regs. |
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|